eliassenfredrik Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Ethi is f*cking class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 God awful. He's seems like a lovely guy, but he really is a fucking shit footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Shit is a compliment, he's far worse than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Can't treat the ball, yet he seems to be involved in everything. Shit slow and the worlds easiest footballer to read. Knowing we'll never buy a CB in January makes me...fuck it, I don't care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Curtis Good or whoever. They can't be worse. Watching Williams is just torture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Shit is a compliment, he's far worse than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Probably a better thread for this: One third of the players out there today don't belong at this level, so it's not all his fault. Tactically he's looking more clueless by the game, though. I'd agree he is clueless not playing hoofball + tight defense when we are forced to use Willo. At face value it seems preposterous to point the finger at Mike Williamson for bad football. But the truth is, you've got a player in the team that can't play the ball out of defence, that the midfield have to protect, and can't form part of a high line because of his lack of pace. He should be nowhere near this team. There's no excuse for it, either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Probably a better thread for this: One third of the players out there today don't belong at this level, so it's not all his fault. Tactically he's looking more clueless by the game, though. I'd agree he is clueless not playing hoofball + tight defense when we are forced to use Willo. At face value it seems preposterous to point the finger at Mike Williamson for bad football. But the truth is, you've got a player in the team that can't play the ball out of defence, that the midfield have to protect, and can't form part of a high line because of his lack of pace. He should be nowhere near this team. There's no excuse for it, either. Bingo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Depressing seeing two of Swansea's signings sink us while we still have this bloke at CB due to a lack of investment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Is Streete fit? Not that it matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 At face value it seems preposterous to point the finger at Mike Williamson for bad football. But the truth is, you've got a player in the team that can't play the ball out of defence, that the midfield have to protect, and can't form part of a high line because of his lack of pace. He should be nowhere near this team. There's no excuse for it, either. No excuse, but the explanation is obviously that we missed out on our CB transfer target(s). Fairly sure Pardew knows he's an atrocious defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 At face value it seems preposterous to point the finger at Mike Williamson for bad football. But the truth is, you've got a player in the team that can't play the ball out of defence, that the midfield have to protect, and can't form part of a high line because of his lack of pace. He should be nowhere near this team. There's no excuse for it, either. No excuse, but the explanation is obviously that we missed out on our CB transfer target(s). Fairly sure Pardew knows he's an atrocious defender. Doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 We just don't want to spend any money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben-nufc Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Such a limited player it's painful, he should be nowhere near our side but i'm not going to critisize him week in week out because it's our reluctance to spend money that's the problem not Williamson. I just think we need to accept him for what he is, a poor player who works hard but ultimately is not a Premier League defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Such a limited player it's painful, he should be nowhere near our side but i'm not going to critisize him week in week out because it's our reluctance to spend money that's the problem not Williamson. I just think we need to accept him for what he is, a poor player who works hard but ultimately is not a Premier League defender. Shaun Teale was limited, Garry Monk today is limited. The difference is they know when to play, when to clear it. They know how to play the game without getting in a panic when the ball comes near them. Willo is not good enough and never has been. He isn't even good enough to be 5th choice at this level. He is a Championship CB. Just. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben-nufc Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Such a limited player it's painful, he should be nowhere near our side but i'm not going to critisize him week in week out because it's our reluctance to spend money that's the problem not Williamson. I just think we need to accept him for what he is, a poor player who works hard but ultimately is not a Premier League defender. Willo is not good enough and never has been. He isn't even good enough to be 5th choice at this level. He is a Championship CB. Just. Couldn't agree more but surely you agree that it's hardly his fault that he is our 3rd choice when he should be about 6th! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Such a limited player it's painful, he should be nowhere near our side but i'm not going to critisize him week in week out because it's our reluctance to spend money that's the problem not Williamson. I just think we need to accept him for what he is, a poor player who works hard but ultimately is not a Premier League defender. Willo is not good enough and never has been. He isn't even good enough to be 5th choice at this level. He is a Championship CB. Just. Couldn't agree more but surely you agree that it's hardly his fault that he is our 3rd choice when he should be about 6th! Of course mate, really is down to board that. But rather like Simpson i think Pardew sees Willo differently from us and the rest of the people with normal football thinking brains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 His confidence is very brittle, particularly at home. He had a torrid game, but the fact is that he should be on the bench at best and yet there's nobody else to play ahead of him. Been the same since promotion. His wages are low though and that is the most important thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Such a limited player it's painful, he should be nowhere near our side but i'm not going to critisize him week in week out because it's our reluctance to spend money that's the problem not Williamson. I just think we need to accept him for what he is, a poor player who works hard but ultimately is not a Premier League defender. Willo is not good enough and never has been. He isn't even good enough to be 5th choice at this level. He is a Championship CB. Just. Couldn't agree more but surely you agree that it's hardly his fault that he is our 3rd choice when he should be about 6th! Of course mate, really is down to board that. But rather like Simpson i think Pardew sees Willo differently from us and the rest of the people with normal football thinking brains. Well it's simple really. Pards sees in Simpson and Willo two capable defenders. They do what they're asked: defend. Great at parrying away loose balls out of bounds, but ask them to navigate back up field, distribute out of the back, or contribute in any way to a free-flowing kind of football and they're completely useless. One thing that just typifies the difference between Taylor and Willo, for instance, is how they handle the loose ball. On a break with a defender, Willo does enough to get to the ball and concede the throw-in or corner. He's done his job and prevented the direct shot on goal. But he hasn't really neutralized the threat, just delayed it. Taylor gets to that ball, turns it around, and makes the pass up field. He's prevented the shot and neutralized the threat. Willo has zero ball skills. None whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 This fucking bollocks about Simpson Williams et al being poor footballers and therefore that's why we are shite is fucking boring. Every single member of our side seems shit scared of the ball or all to willing to lump it with the exception of Ben Arfa. The reason we are conceding goals and our defenders like Williams are under pressure a lot is because we simply do not keep the ball or when we are on it, encourage a passing game. I guarantee Williams is instructed to look for the long early ball more than the short keep it moving pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Would he even be a footballer if he was just normal sized? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 "Williams" The Ethi bug has caught on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 His confidence is very brittle, particularly at home. He had a torrid game, but the fact is that he should be on the bench at best and yet there's nobody else to play ahead of him. Been the same since promotion. His wages are low though and that is the most important thing. I honestly wonder if we couldn't make a profit by flipping him to a Championship side. Have to think a lot of teams would pay for "PL experience." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 This fucking bollocks about Simpson Williams et al being poor footballers and therefore that's why we are shite is fucking boring. Every single member of our side seems shit scared of the ball or all to willing to lump it with the exception of Ben Arfa. The reason we are conceding goals and our defenders like Williams are under pressure a lot is because we simply do not keep the ball or when we are on it, encourage a passing game. I guarantee Williams is instructed to look for the long early ball more than the short keep it moving pass. TBF, this thread is about Willo. We're not discussing grand strategy in here. Like I said before, Willo just perfectly exemplifies the underlying problem with this squad. Not that he's necessarily the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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