Guest firetotheworks Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Disagree that he makes basic errors tbh. Not that it matters if the end result is the same, but he's generally beaten by lack of ability or mobility than losing a marker or being too rash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I think we should put this to a vote. Let's say both will be fit for an important game coming up; Williamson or Taylor? For all those saying Williamson's better I've yet to hear anyone make a case as to why Williamson a better defender other than mentioning his leadership or awareness of his weaknesses. It's not just what Williamson has, it's what Taylor doesn't. Rightly or wrongly, I've got it into my head that Taylor makes basic errors (usually in picking up players or being too gung ho) and then blames others. You also have to take injuries into account. Say Taylor has had a run of games and we have an important game, I'd play him. Say Taylor is coming straight back from injury and is fit for an important game as his first game back, I'd go with Williamson. I honestly would. Taylor is better with ball at his feet, but that's all. Williamson is better at positioning himself and basic defending just absolute garbage when expected to do anything with the ball. He has played well when back in team tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Disagree that he makes basic errors tbh. Not that it matters if the end result is the same, but he's generally beaten by lack of ability or mobility than losing a marker or being too rash. Well depends what you class as an error I suppose. Getting the ball in 30 yards of space and launching it upfield without taking a moment to compose youself is an error. Off the top of my head, Cardiff he made an error that lead to a goal. But like I say, I'm not getting on his back, he's doing well. He does a job as a squad player. He'll more than likely play more than Taylor too due to Taylor's glass shell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Disagree that he makes basic errors tbh. Not that it matters if the end result is the same, but he's generally beaten by lack of ability or mobility than losing a marker or being too rash. Well depends what you class as an error I suppose. Getting the ball in 30 yards of space and launching it upfield without taking a moment to compose youself is an error. Off the top of my head, Cardiff he made an error that lead to a goal. But like I say, I'm not getting on his back, he's doing well. He does a job as a squad player. He'll more than likely play more than Taylor too due to Taylor's glass shell. Tbf, Mike Williamson trying to pass it out of defense is much more likely to result in an error. He's covering for his lack of ability by launching it and although I get pissed off, I get pissed off by the fact that he's starting for us, rather than get directly pissed off by him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Neither are them are the answer as we all know, but this moment in time even if Taylor was fit, you'd have to keep Willo in the side ahead of him. He's hardly put a foot wrong bar his air kick at Cardiff. Also the fact he hasn't even had a stable CB partner makes his form even better, he's adapted to each player put alongside him and that's a big positive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Moody Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 At the moment I'm picking Williamson over Taylor any day of the week. But mainly on a Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Shouldn't be dropped for Taylor. At all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Shouldn't be dropped for Taylor. At all. Or Colo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest micky_123 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Williamson has been great for us the last few games. The best thing about him is that he knows his limitations. I never get annoyed with him for launching the ball upfield because he knows he isn't good enough to pass the ball out. That said, I thought his passing vs Chelsea was much much better. Can't even begin to think about dropping him for Taylor. I wouldn't even take him out for Colo, it would be Colo and Mike with Yanga dropped to the bench for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Shouldn't be dropped for Taylor. At all. Or Colo Howeh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Shouldn't be dropped for Taylor. At all. Or Colo Howeh. Right now .. no.. MYM & Williamson have been solid, no need to rush Colo back into the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 To be fair to Williamson he does always look for a short pass and when he has the ball someone will normally get very close to him to let him do that. Its only when that is closed that he considers the "launch it" option, he knows he can't really play it out so doesn't try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Shouldn't be dropped for Taylor. At all. Or Colo Howeh. Right now .. no.. MYM & Williamson have been solid, no need to rush Colo back into the side. Anah, but howeh. You don't play either of those two over Colo at this stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 To be fair to Williamson he does always look for a short pass and when he has the ball someone will normally get very close to him to let him do that. Its only when that is closed that he considers the "launch it" option, he knows he can't really play it out so doesn't try. My feelings too, he's a lot more willing to pass it short than he used to be. He definitely suffered playing alongside Simpson as well, neither of them had a competent footballer to pass to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 To be fair to Williamson he does always look for a short pass and when he has the ball someone will normally get very close to him to let him do that. Its only when that is closed that he considers the "launch it" option, he knows he can't really play it out so doesn't try. My feelings too, he's a lot more willing to pass it short than he used to be. He definitely suffered playing alongside Simpson as well, neither of them had a competent footballer to pass to. Especially with the absence/loss of form of Tiote. Last 5/6 games he has been helping out a lot more with that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Colo and Taylor will be back in for Norwich, anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Colo and Taylor will be back in for Norwich, anyway. Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Colo and Taylor will be back in for Norwich, anyway. Why? Coz Ronaldo said so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 If you two just merged the forum would be much better off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I think Taylor is the better player but Williamson doesn't deserve to be dropped at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I think Taylor is the better player but Williamson doesn't deserve to be dropped at the moment. He's no Albert Luque. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Given that there's not a lot to choose between all four CBs, we may as well stick with a pair who seem to be building a reasonable partnership. We can debate the finer points, but you can't say that there's a particularly strong case for re-instating Colo or Taylor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 He was class against Chelsea and even better today IMO. That was probably his best game in our shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jdckelly Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Man mountain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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