Fight/bust up at the training ground?

[Guest Heneage]

Some years ago a football manager of great experience expressed his concern at what passed for dressing-room banter in the modern game.

 

'There has always been mickey-taking,' he said. 'It was no different when I played. This is not the same, though. They say stuff about people's wives, their girlfriends, who earns what, really nasty, personal remarks. Some of the boys can handle it better than others. It's too near the mark. It's all meant to be a laugh, but it doesn't seem very funny to me.'

 

Same in any team that, I've played in sides where you just know who you can and can't have a joke with.

[garth]

Everybody saying Sir Bob was loosing control with certain players, then in my opinion Hughton certainly has.

[LesPaul]

so................wayne rooney twats jonny evans and breaks his jaw.

 

 

what does Fergie do?

does rooney already have a caution for assault and is he up soon for glassing someone ?

 

 

 

Probably, yeah

[Guest]

Everybody saying Sir Bob was loosing control with certain players, then in my opinion Hughton certainly has.

 

How could Hughton have stopped this?

[2sheds]

Everybody saying Sir Bob was loosing control with certain players, then in my opinion Hughton certainly has.

Yes that proves 'everyone' is a fucking idiot

[Guest guinness_fiend]

Legal view of Newcastle United bust-up

 

 

the bust-up between Taylor and Carroll, which is said to have happened in an ice-bath

 

  He's one of my best mates, and a mackem! Had no idea he was on the Sunday Sun's payroll.

 

 

Maybe Taylor had his eye on the wrong type of ball...

 

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/nechronical/oct2009/7/6/newcastle-united-s-steven-taylor-learns-a-few-judo-moves-from-eight-year-old-ben-chandler-187871058.jpg

[garth]

Everybody saying Sir Bob was loosing control with certain players, then in my opinion Hughton certainly has.

 

How could Hughton have stopped this?

 

Not really about stopping the fight but a sever reprimand would have been the solution.

[Happy Face]

Steven Taylor is nowt but a brown-nosing bell-end who's found out (however innocent he might be in this case) his disingenuous playing to the crowd hasn't left him as popular as he thought it had.

 

Fans, on the whole, prefer performances on the pitch over paper talk, which is why Carroll's goal haul this season has won him a lot more fans than all the talking Taylor (and his dad) does in the press about how much he loves the club and what it owes him.

 

 

[Happy Face]

Everybody saying Sir Bob was loosing control with certain players, then in my opinion Hughton certainly has.

 

How could Hughton have stopped this?

 

Not really about stopping the fight but a sever reprimand would have been the solution.

 

In what form?

[Guest jonlane86]

Everybody saying Sir Bob was loosing control with certain players, then in my opinion Hughton certainly has.

 

How could Hughton have stopped this?

 

Not really about stopping the fight but a sever reprimand would have been the solution.

 

In what form?

 

Fine Carroll 2 weeks wages and drop him to the reserves for a month.  You've got Ameobi, Ranger and Lovenkrands and we're 12 points away from being promoted IF Forest win all of their games.  9 points if we beat Forest tonight.  You do that it shows Carroll what he did was wrong and that he's not a shoe-in for the first team no matter what his actions are.  By playing him it doesn't reprimand his actions one bit and it wont defer him from doing it in future.  Hitting him in the pocket wont hurt him hugely, but if you drop him and others succeed whilst he's not in the side (which they would) then it hurts his ego, which is what he needs.

[Guest]

Hughton would have been torn to shreds had Doncaster finished 0-0 with Carroll left back at Newcastle.

[Guest toonlass]

Everybody saying Sir Bob was loosing control with certain players, then in my opinion Hughton certainly has.

 

How could Hughton have stopped this?

 

Not really about stopping the fight but a sever reprimand would have been the solution.

 

In what form?

 

Fine Carroll 2 weeks wages and drop him to the reserves for a month.  You've got Ameobi, Ranger and Lovenkrands and we're 12 points away from being promoted IF Forest win all of their games.  9 points if we beat Forest tonight.  You do that it shows Carroll what he did was wrong and that he's not a shoe-in for the first team no matter what his actions are.  By playing him it doesn't reprimand his actions one bit and it wont defer him from doing it in future.  Hitting him in the pocket wont hurt him hugely, but if you drop him and others succeed whilst he's not in the side (which they would) then it hurts his ego, which is what he needs.

 

So with Lovenkrands and Shola out injurred you want Hughton to drop an in-form Carroll for Leon Best (who has looked crap since we signed him) and an 18 year old who, if rumours are to believed, has been making a prick of himself off the field and being all "Billy Big Balls" with his former youth team colleagues and who has scored only twice? You want Hughton to make a stand at the expense of the team and possibly risk our promotion. Give your head a shake man.

[Liam Liam Liam O]

Hughton would have been torn to shreds had Doncaster finished 0-0 with Carroll left back at Newcastle.

 

 

By me at least.

[Happy Face]

Everybody saying Sir Bob was loosing control with certain players, then in my opinion Hughton certainly has.

 

How could Hughton have stopped this?

 

Not really about stopping the fight but a sever reprimand would have been the solution.

 

In what form?

 

Fine Carroll 2 weeks wages and drop him to the reserves for a month.  You've got Ameobi, Ranger and Lovenkrands and we're 12 points away from being promoted IF Forest win all of their games.  9 points if we beat Forest tonight.  You do that it shows Carroll what he did was wrong and that he's not a shoe-in for the first team no matter what his actions are.  By playing him it doesn't reprimand his actions one bit and it wont defer him from doing it in future.  Hitting him in the pocket wont hurt him hugely, but if you drop him and others succeed whilst he's not in the side (which they would) then it hurts his ego, which is what he needs.

 

Deny ourselves the striker that's scored 10 goals in 11 games to put us in the position you describe when no complaint has been lodged and no charges made?

 

Do that to a 21 year old kid in the best form of his life, when he's improving and gaining confidence at a greater rate than he has or will at any time in his career.  Even though we refused to do it to Barton either before or after he was jailed.  An older, supposedly wiser, more senior squad member with more previous.  After nowt happened to Dyer or Bowyer or Shearer?

 

When Liverpool did nothing of the sort to Steven gerrard who had been charged.

 

Man City have done nowt to Michael Johnson.

 

Birmingham did nowt like that to Pennant.

 

Arsenal did nowt like that to Adams.

 

In a corrupt world I respect your moral stance, but with a precedent set over and over again in the past I cannot see why we should start trying to turn the tide.  All i care about is winning tonight so I'll welcome Carroll onto the pitch.

[TRon]

Everybody saying Sir Bob was loosing control with certain players, then in my opinion Hughton certainly has.

 

How could Hughton have stopped this?

 

Not really about stopping the fight but a sever reprimand would have been the solution.

 

In what form?

 

Fine Carroll 2 weeks wages and drop him to the reserves for a month.  You've got Ameobi, Ranger and Lovenkrands and we're 12 points away from being promoted IF Forest win all of their games.  9 points if we beat Forest tonight.  You do that it shows Carroll what he did was wrong and that he's not a shoe-in for the first team no matter what his actions are.  By playing him it doesn't reprimand his actions one bit and it wont defer him from doing it in future.  Hitting him in the pocket wont hurt him hugely, but if you drop him and others succeed whilst he's not in the side (which they would) then it hurts his ego, which is what he needs.

 

Deny ourselves the striker that's scored 10 goals in 11 games to put us in the position you describe when no complaint has been lodged and no charges made?

 

Do that to a 21 year old kid in the best form of his life, when he's improving and gaining confidence at a greater rate than he has or will at any time in his career.  Even though we refused to do it to Barton either before or after he was jailed.  An older, supposedly wiser, more senior squad member with more previous.  After nowt happened to Dyer or Bowyer or Shearer?

 

When Liverpool did nothing of the sort to Steven gerrard who had been charged.

 

Man City have done nowt to Michael Johnson.

 

Birmingham did nowt like that to Pennant.

 

Arsenal did nowt like that to Adams.

 

In a corrupt world I respect your moral stance, but with a precedent set over and over again in the past I cannot see why we should start trying to turn the tide.  All i care about is winning tonight so I'll welcome Carroll onto the pitch.

 

I hope Carroll destroys Forest tonight. If he gives their centre back a good battering all the better.

[lovejoy]

so................wayne rooney twats jonny evans and breaks his jaw.

 

 

what does Fergie do?

does rooney already have a caution for assault and is he up soon for glassing someone ?

 

 

 

so are we basing this punishemnt on what has gone on previously, both incidents which took place outside of the club? or on this alone?

[Fugazi]

Surprised there's been no pics of Taylor since the incident, would have thought the paparazzi scum may have set up camp outside his gaff, to try and get shots of his now infamous jaw.

[madras]

so................wayne rooney twats jonny evans and breaks his jaw.

 

 

what does Fergie do?

does rooney already have a caution for assault and is he up soon for glassing someone ?

 

 

 

so are we basing this punishemnt on what has gone on previously, both incidents which took place outside of the club? or on this alone?

we are basing it on the way we would if he were anyone else. if it were jimmy down the street and he's found to be the aggressorof this latest incident you'd be screaming for him to be put away for at least a year.

[magorific]

Steven Taylor is nowt but a brown-nosing bell-end who's found out (however innocent he might be in this case) his disingenuous playing to the crowd hasn't left him as popular as he thought it had.

 

Fans, on the whole, prefer performances on the pitch over paper talk, which is why Carroll's goal haul this season has won him a lot more fans than all the talking Taylor (and his dad) does in the press about how much he loves the club and what it owes him.

 

 

 

Were you calling Taylor earlier this season when he was hardly putting a foot wrong? His "performances on the pitch" this season can't be questioned.

As for players wanting what they feel they're owed, why do you think Carroll changed his agent last year other than to ultimately negotiate him a big fat pay rise?

[madras]

Steven Taylor is nowt but a brown-nosing bell-end who's found out (however innocent he might be in this case) his disingenuous playing to the crowd hasn't left him as popular as he thought it had.

 

Fans, on the whole, prefer performances on the pitch over paper talk, which is why Carroll's goal haul this season has won him a lot more fans than all the talking Taylor (and his dad) does in the press about how much he loves the club and what it owes him.

 

 

 

Were you calling Taylor earlier this season when he was hardly putting a foot wrong? His "performances on the pitch" this season can't be questioned.

As for players wanting what they feel they're owed, why do you think Carroll changed his agent last year other than to ultimately negotiate him a big fat pay rise?

i dont really get what taylors playing to the crowd is either ?

[Happy Face]

Steven Taylor is nowt but a brown-nosing bell-end who's found out (however innocent he might be in this case) his disingenuous playing to the crowd hasn't left him as popular as he thought it had.

 

Fans, on the whole, prefer performances on the pitch over paper talk, which is why Carroll's goal haul this season has won him a lot more fans than all the talking Taylor (and his dad) does in the press about how much he loves the club and what it owes him.

 

 

 

Were you calling Taylor earlier this season when he was hardly putting a foot wrong? His "performances on the pitch" this season can't be questioned.

As for players wanting what they feel they're owed, why do you think Carroll changed his agent last year other than to ultimately negotiate him a big fat pay rise?

 

I've been calling Taylor for 5 years mate 

 

...and I've never seen Carroll lamenting his situation in the papers once.

[Happy Face]

Steven Taylor is nowt but a brown-nosing bell-end who's found out (however innocent he might be in this case) his disingenuous playing to the crowd hasn't left him as popular as he thought it had.

 

Fans, on the whole, prefer performances on the pitch over paper talk, which is why Carroll's goal haul this season has won him a lot more fans than all the talking Taylor (and his dad) does in the press about how much he loves the club and what it owes him.

 

Were you calling Taylor earlier this season when he was hardly putting a foot wrong? His "performances on the pitch" this season can't be questioned.

As for players wanting what they feel they're owed, why do you think Carroll changed his agent last year other than to ultimately negotiate him a big fat pay rise?

i dont really get what taylors playing to the crowd is either ?

 

Seriously?

[Ronaldo]

Looks like Taylor is paying the price for pretending that he's been one of our best players all these years whilst the players alongside have taken the fall for him.

[oldtype]

You can kind of sympathize with Taylor in this imo... He'd probably get a lot more support from the fans if he wasn't injured and off the pitch at the moment. He's obviously not really well-liked in the locker room and he's just realized that his "Geordie Hero" position with the fans has been usurped by Carroll as well.

 

Yeah, he's being an idiot. But I can sort of understand why he's acting like one.

 

[madras]

Looks like Taylor is paying the price for pretending that he's been one of our best players all these years whilst the players alongside have taken the fall for him.

how would one pretend to be one of the best players ?

 

looks more like he's paying the price for getting whacked off an in form forward.