Guest Pie Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Already started playing down notions of spending the Carroll money I see. Where? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Already started playing down notions of spending the Carroll money I see. Just been seeing that, no surprises. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Maybe they are trying to combat the inevitable over valuations from other clubs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pie Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 If this is linked to Pardew' comments re: Joey Barton then I'm happy to see I'm becoming less cynical. Not that I would trust MA to spend it like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Maybe they are trying to combat the inevitable over valuations from other clubs? Think that's been suggested every single transfer window. Apart from City and Chelsea, I can't see why they'd need to do anything more than any other club does. Nobody wants to be ripped off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Maybe they are trying to combat the inevitable over valuations from other clubs? I'll just tell myself this is the case. Clever Pards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Maybe they are trying to combat the inevitable over valuations from other clubs? Think that's been suggested every single transfer window. Apart from City and Chelsea, I can't see why they'd need to do anything more than any other club does. Nobody wants to be ripped off. Steve Bruce will disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Maybe they are trying to combat the inevitable over valuations from other clubs? Think that's been suggested every single transfer window. Apart from City and Chelsea, I can't see why they'd need to do anything more than any other club does. Nobody wants to be ripped off. But this is the first time we have sold a player for so much. The sale of Carroll would no doubt add a few more £m on any striker we approach this summer than it would have if he hadn't been sold. In all honesty I don't expect us to spend much this summer but just thought I would put another possible option forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Clubs don't negotiate through the press. They don't set prices based on something a manager does or doesn't say in an interview. Is what he's saying lies? Truth? It doesn't matter at all. The quotes are for us plebs. Real business gets taken care of behind closed doors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Really?, I thought The Sun handled our transfer business? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Really?, I thought The Sun handled our transfer business? Should have stuck with sunshine. I'm only saying there's no point in attaching value to anything said about this stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Sky, man. David Craig is the man in the know! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Really?, I thought The Sun handled our transfer business? Should have stuck with sunshine. I'm only saying there's no point in attaching value to anything said about this stuff. I should have, but I'm a 2.0 poster. Nobody said anything is negotiated in the press. What's being suggested is that it might not really be a good idea to keep saying "We have £35m and we'll spend it all in the summer", its not just the fans of NUFC who read those comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrSundlofer Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 I guess IF Pards does get the £35m to spend... "I said to Mike: 'Look, this money has to be reinvested in the team. All of it,'" Still don't know why people don't get it - we won't spend £35M on players in the next transfer window. 'The Carroll money' will be spent on transfer fees, sign on fees and wage... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 I guess IF Pards does get the £35m to spend... "I said to Mike: 'Look, this money has to be reinvested in the team. All of it,'" Still don't know why people don't get it - we won't spend £35M on players in the next transfer window. 'The Carroll money' will be spent on transfer fees, sign on fees and wage... Exactly. And it's important that some of the money is used to tie Tiote , Barton and Enrique down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Really?, I thought The Sun handled our transfer business? Should have stuck with sunshine. I'm only saying there's no point in attaching value to anything said about this stuff. I should have, since you're talking shite. Nobody said anything is negotiated in the press. What's being suggested is that it might not really be a good idea to keep saying "We have £35m and we'll spend it all in the summer", its not just the fans of NUFC who read those comments. Dude. It literally doesn't matter who reads those comments. Clubs don't give a faint whiff of a damn about what Pardew may or may not blather on about (in regards to this clearly; individual players are another story). They know we've got 35m. Nothing else matters; they'll move the price based on that, not whether or not he says we are buying/we aren't buying, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 I can see people getting worked up about the £35million as if we have to spend that amount to have a good summer. I agree to an extent with Pardew that it's less about how much we spend and more about bringing in the right players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 I guess IF Pards does get the £35m to spend... "I said to Mike: 'Look, this money has to be reinvested in the team. All of it,'" Still don't know why people don't get it - we won't spend £35M on players in the next transfer window. 'The Carroll money' will be spent on transfer fees, sign on fees and wage... In that case Carroll's wages should be included as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Really?, I thought The Sun handled our transfer business? Should have stuck with sunshine. I'm only saying there's no point in attaching value to anything said about this stuff. I should have, since you're talking shite. Nobody said anything is negotiated in the press. What's being suggested is that it might not really be a good idea to keep saying "We have £35m and we'll spend it all in the summer", its not just the fans of NUFC who read those comments. Dude. It literally doesn't matter who reads those comments. Clubs don't give a faint whiff of a damn about what Pardew may or may not blather on about (in regards to this clearly; individual players are another story). They know we've got 35m. Nothing else matters; they'll move the price based on that, not whether or not he says we are buying/we aren't buying, Ok, I don't agree though, who knows what Pardew and the club in general think either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 I can see people getting worked up about the £35million as if we have to spend that amount to have a good summer. I agree to an extent with Pardew that it's less about how much we spend and more about bringing in the right players. Since when is bringing in the right players a new idea though? I'd love to add a load of good players on frees, low fees and cheap wages. Who wouldn't? The reality is that we're already trundling along at a reasonable level in the Premier League. To get to the next level and try to compete for a European spot we'll inevitably have to spend some money. The fact everyone knows we have £30m in the bank will just make things harder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 I can see people getting worked up about the £35million as if we have to spend that amount to have a good summer. I agree to an extent with Pardew that it's less about how much we spend and more about bringing in the right players. Since when is bringing in the right players a new idea though? I'd love to add a load of good players on frees, low fees and cheap wages. Who wouldn't? The reality is that we're already trundling along at a reasonable level in the Premier League. To get to the next level and try to compete for a European spot we'll inevitably have to spend some money. The fact everyone knows we have £30m in the bank will just make things harder. Agreed. Also this "notion" that we have to sign more Tiote's and less Luque's is massively over-simplistic... As if it is so easy to predict that a relative unknown will be a huge hit in the Premiership. If it was, everybody would be doing it.. The reality is that there is a huge correlation between money spend (on fees and wages) and success (league position). Anybody who thinks there isn't is kidding themselves, which is not to say it is not worthwhile to try and get players that will most likely improve us on good deals (frees, last year of contract, etc). People will point at the good deals we have done in recent times, but forget all the deals we haven't done because there was no bargain available but should really have done (essential cover for full back and wing position, let alone one or two Premiership strikers). We have been riding our luck imho, and our good results on the pitch this season are as much despite the regime than thanks to them. If we don't seriously improve both the first team and the squad this summer despite the resources being available it will be criminal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 I can see people getting worked up about the £35million as if we have to spend that amount to have a good summer. I agree to an extent with Pardew that it's less about how much we spend and more about bringing in the right players. Since when is bringing in the right players a new idea though? I'd love to add a load of good players on frees, low fees and cheap wages. Who wouldn't? The reality is that we're already trundling along at a reasonable level in the Premier League. To get to the next level and try to compete for a European spot we'll inevitably have to spend some money. The fact everyone knows we have £30m in the bank will just make things harder. Agreed. Also this "notion" that we have to sign more Tiote's and less Luque's is massively over-simplistic... As if it is so easy to predict that a relative unknown will be a huge hit in the Premiership. If it was, everybody would be doing it.. The reality is that there is a huge correlation between money spend (on fees and wages) and success (league position). Anybody who thinks there isn't is kidding themselves, which is not to say it is not worthwhile to try and get players that will most likely improve us on good deals (frees, last year of contract, etc). People will point at the good deals we have done in recent times, but forget all the deals we haven't done because there was no bargain available but should really have done (essential cover for full back and wing position, let alone one or two Premiership strikers). We have been riding our luck imho, and our good results on the pitch this season are as much despite the regime than thanks to them. If we don't seriously improve both the first team and the squad this summer despite the resources being available it will be criminal. You are right, we have been riding our luck somewhat. If Enrique or Jonas or Tiote picked up a bad injury this season we would be in trouble. Luckily they haven't yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 http://www.mercato365.com/etranger/monde/article_501136_grece-panathinaikos-Cisse-dit-stop-.shtml Newcastle, Everton & Bolton linked with Cisse, they reckon the fee will be between €10-14m if he's to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tall Striker Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Doesn't fit with the 'profile' of players we're looking to sign. No sell on value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Bit much even if he is pretty much guaranteed to give you goals. Would rather go for someone younger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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