SteveMc Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 The big Sunday Sun exclusive? Ranger up for sale. Meh. Mark Douglas rallying everyone on twitter up for this? Not really. He said it would be a shock - but not a 'pitchforks out' type departure. This qualifies as that I think. You seen it nut? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Just had a quick flick at the back page on way to work. Says he can go for £1m. QPR and Bolton linked but no firm interest yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I don't feel shocked nor have a feeling it will be 'a split verdict amongst nufc faithful'. More so for Smith. Ok, 'shocked' to hear that Smith is actually wanted. That's about it though. Don't think he will split opinions among the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Looks like a 4-3-3 this season and he'd be 4th choice behind a new striker, Best and Ameobi as the central striker anyway. No real loss. Of all the bad scenarios we were thinking up last night then I can take this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Ranger up for sale? is that it? jeez. Had me worried for a second! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Offer player 5 1/2 year contract. Sell player 6 months later. Nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 So we want to ship Ranger out was the big "shocking" transfer news. Ok, I can live with that. But a little bit unnecessary to hype it this much... Now, bring in Gervinho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 The long term contract does complicate things if they do want rid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Not if he can go for just £1m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Simple enough if they can get rid. 5 years is a long time if we can't (see the Xisco precedent) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Would be a mistake imo, especially for £1m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 How much would you value him at? I think at best he'll be a 12 to 15 goal a season Championship striker and even that's not a given. I reckon £1m with a sell-on clause is reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I wouldn't value him at anything until I know how good he actually is, I'm not in the 'he's had enough chances now' mindset because I don't think he has (1 start is it?). Get him out on loan for a season or two then we will have a better idea. He has 5 years left on his contract so it's not like we don't have the time. Just reminds me of when some would have bitten Stokes hand of when it was rumoured they wanted Carroll for £4m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I think he could develop into a really good front man. He has all the physical attributes and has shown instinct for goals at various levels. He has obviously had his problems adjusting to first team level - but so has many a young striker. His attitude is the obvious problem with him. The fear is that it will stop him from ever fulfilling his potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 if it was just a football issue then he would be loaned out - must be attitude as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guinness_fiend Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I wouldn't value him at anything until I know how good he actually is, I'm not in the 'he's had enough chances now' mindset because I don't think he has (1 start is it?). Get him out on loan for a season or two then we will have a better idea. He has 5 years left on his contract so it's not like we don't have the time. Just reminds me of when some would have bitten Stokes hand of when it was rumoured they wanted Carroll for £4m. This. People are too quick to write-off young players nowadays if they don't develop into Messi overnight. He's certainly worth retaining but loaning out for a season or two to see how/if he develops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 The vast majority of players who make it are showing promise at a young age. The likes of Carroll whose game massively improved in twelve months are pretty much the exception rather than the rule. My gripe with Ranger, other than the faux gangster bullshit, is that he hasn't improved one jot in two years. He still looks unlikely to score and only rarely finds himself in space. He did have an impact on a handful of times last season by simply putting himself about, but there's very little finesse to his play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 £1m is bigger all these days though so it's worth the risk imo to loan him and see what he does. O still think he hasn't had nearly enough chances, that's not saying he has particularly deserved them here just I wouldn't judge him on the odd chance he has had. Not expecting similar progress but it took Carroll half a season of regular first choice football to look better than an average championship forward. I doubt we would do Rangers value (if it is currently £1m) any harm by letting him get a proper run. Would just hate to see him getting ridden on the cheap for these off field problems which to be honest pale in comparison to a lot of players out there we would walk over broken glass for, then he turns out to be a good premiership forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 This could well come back to bite us. Got to be more down to personality than ability despite many on here claiming he has next to no ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espio Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I may be reading wayyy too much into it, but what if the possible sale of Ranger, means we could be getting both Gervinho and Gameiro? IIRC We were getting either/or, not both, what if Pards has somehow persuaded Ash to part with cash to get both, but as a consequence we have to get rid of a striker we already have? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 You're reading too much into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I don't see this £1m making too much of a dent. If it's wages I would rather loan Shola?loven out for the season then Lovens contract runs out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I can only assume Ranger is more trouble than he is worth. £1m and his crappy wages are hardly going to make much of a dent in our budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I can only assume Ranger is more trouble than he is worth. £1m and his crappy wages are hardly going to make much of a dent in our budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I hadn't given up hope for Ranger, so I'm disappointed if this is true. Obviously we don't know everything that's gone on behind the scenes with the player. Still not convinced about this story, because if it's only about his attitude in training, we could loan him out in the hope that he might mature that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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