NUFC transfer rumours in the press

[toontownman]

Sicko is pretty close.

 

We do desperately need decent wing cover too.

 

We will be getting a LB, if hughton didn't rate kadar there in the championship and got cover in, we will be doing the same now.

 

I think we are still after a striker, surely one of best or xisco have to be moved on if we do, I think the options are still open on that one with ranger and best looking ok and xisco looking determined to stay. Let's hope not.

 

An attacking cm would be nice, might well get someone that can play both in the centre or out wide like cleverley. Or a pacey striker that could also play AM.

 

A good DM would be great but I think the other positions are more pressing and hughton is happy with either barton/guthrie deep or smith.

 

I think we are still after those three but time will tell.

[Pilko]

Transfer stories seem to have dried up these last few days.

[BeloEmre]

Transfer stories seem to have dried up these last few days.

Thats a good sign.

[Ronaldo]

I guess Colocinni is definitely physical enough for the Prem then?

 

No, not defintely. Guthrie on the other hand defintely isn't. He's a much better bet than Smith, but I don't want to see him starting regularly.

[Guest Heneage]

I guess Colocinni is definitely physical enough for the Prem then?

 

No, not defintely. Guthrie on the other hand defintely isn't.

I'd be interested to see how you would use Guthrie, and would you adapt his training at all?

[ponsaelius]

I guess Colocinni is definitely physical enough for the Prem then?

 

No, not defintely. Guthrie on the other hand defintely isn't. He's a much better bet than Smith, but I don't want to see him starting regularly.

 

He's a better bet than Nolan aswell.

[Ronaldo]

I guess Colocinni is definitely physical enough for the Prem then?

 

No, not defintely. Guthrie on the other hand defintely isn't.

I'd be interested to see how you would use Guthrie, and would you adapt his training at all?

 

He needs to be put on a weight-training program designed for strength and hypertrophy. His natural fitness is also poor so he needs to be working a tad harder than the average footballer on his cardiovascular endurance. Interval training such as sprints would probably be most appropriate.

[Guest sicko2ndbest]

I guess Colocinni is definitely physical enough for the Prem then?

 

No, not defintely. Guthrie on the other hand defintely isn't.

I'd be interested to see how you would use Guthrie, and would you adapt his training at all?

 

He needs to be put on a weight-training program designed for strength and hypertrophy. His natural fitness is also poor so he needs to be working a tad harder than the average footballer on his cardiovascular endurance. Interval training such as sprints would probably be most appropriate.

 

Colo has a number of physical deficiencies which will be highlighted next season as it is a step up in power and pace. I really feel Campbell and Taylor will be our first choice when both fit as i can see Colo being roasted on a number of occasions, not only by the usual suspects of Drogba, Adebayor and Van Persie, but more importantly by the likes of K.Davies, Fuller, Zamora, Saha, Bent etc.

 

He is not quick, strong or particularly good in the air, what he is, is a good footballer nothing more nothing less. In this league that counts for less than the aforementioned three qualities! See Samba, Faye, Hangeland as examples

[Guest Heneage]

I guess Colocinni is definitely physical enough for the Prem then?

 

No, not defintely. Guthrie on the other hand defintely isn't.

I'd be interested to see how you would use Guthrie, and would you adapt his training at all?

 

He needs to be put on a weight-training program designed for strength and hypertrophy. His natural fitness is also poor so he needs to be working a tad harder than the average footballer on his cardiovascular endurance. Interval training such as sprints would probably be most appropriate.

Very interesting.

 

My next question which sadly can't be answered, is why does our club never do this. It's almost Sunday league in approach, the players keep themselves fit, with no apparent work on developing the physical weaknesses of certain players. Guthrie is a good technical player, with the occasional spark of creativity, but he is chronically held back by his lack of, pace, stamina or strength. Why the club isn't looking to work on that is beyond me. 

[Ronaldo]

I read an interview with Colo a few months back in which he said he was using the gym after training to lift weights and had gained 5 kilos or so because of it. Perhaps the club have implemented personally-tailored training, or he could he have just decided himself that he needed to do it.

 

Either way, Guthrie (and a few others) should be involved in the same thing. A 'one size' approach suits nobody.

[TaylorJ_01]

It's ashame that naturally talented centre backs can't flourish in the Premiership and instead are forced to bulk up.

[Pilko]

A 'one size' approach suits nobody.

 

Especially seeing as we didn't retain Fitzy.

[Ronaldo]

It's ashame that naturally talented centre backs can't flourish in the Premiership and instead are forced to bulk up.

 

That's what makes the PL great, though, a combination of ability and athleticism. But it's certainly gone too far in the last few years, thanks in no small part to a certain couple of managers.

[Ronaldo]

A 'one size' approach suits nobody.

 

Especially seeing as we didn't retain Fitzy.

 

I knew that was coming, thought it would be Cajun, like.

[Guest Pedro_de_geordieo]

I thought this thread was called Transfer rumours in the press? not my rumours as that's another thread.

[Ronaldo]

Nobody has been discussing your rumours, Pedro.

[Guest MrBrown]

I guess Colocinni is definitely physical enough for the Prem then?

 

No, not defintely. Guthrie on the other hand defintely isn't.

I'd be interested to see how you would use Guthrie, and would you adapt his training at all?

 

He needs to be put on a weight-training program designed for strength and hypertrophy. His natural fitness is also poor so he needs to be working a tad harder than the average footballer on his cardiovascular endurance. Interval training such as sprints would probably be most appropriate.

Very interesting.

 

My next question which sadly can't be answered, is why does our club never do this. It's almost Sunday league in approach, the players keep themselves fit, with no apparent work on developing the physical weaknesses of certain players. Guthrie is a good technical player, with the occasional spark of creativity, but he is chronically held back by his lack of, pace, stamina or strength. Why the club isn't looking to work on that is beyond me. 

 

How do you have any idea what the club does or doesn't do?

[TaylorJ_01]

I guess Colocinni is definitely physical enough for the Prem then?

 

No, not defintely. Guthrie on the other hand defintely isn't.

I'd be interested to see how you would use Guthrie, and would you adapt his training at all?

 

He needs to be put on a weight-training program designed for strength and hypertrophy. His natural fitness is also poor so he needs to be working a tad harder than the average footballer on his cardiovascular endurance. Interval training such as sprints would probably be most appropriate.

Very interesting.

 

My next question which sadly can't be answered, is why does our club never do this. It's almost Sunday league in approach, the players keep themselves fit, with no apparent work on developing the physical weaknesses of certain players. Guthrie is a good technical player, with the occasional spark of creativity, but he is chronically held back by his lack of, pace, stamina or strength. Why the club isn't looking to work on that is beyond me. 

 

How do you have any idea what the club does or doesn't do?

 

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[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

I read an interview with Colo a few months back in which he said he was using the gym after training to lift weights and had gained 5 kilos or so because of it. Perhaps the club have implemented personally-tailored training, or he could he have just decided himself that he needed to do it.

 

Either way, Guthrie (and a few others) should be involved in the same thing. A 'one size' approach suits nobody.

 

Training people for something they are not naturally built for and neglecting their strengths is asking to be raped! Fucking going on about Guthries weaknesses for months man. All this we must bulk up, you work for  Holland & Barrett or something?

 

You sound very impssive going on about hypertrophy etc but its all bollocks like

[Kaizero]

I thought this thread was called Transfer rumours in the press? not my rumours as that's another thread.

 

You'll soon realize it's all the same.

[Cajun]

I agree with Ronaldo tbh, Guthrie's fitness/endurance has been shocking and can be worked on. I also don't see where he said we should ignore the attributes he already has.

 

I like Guthrie a lot but he/the club really need to work on his fitness as he fades far too early which isn't useful at this level.

[Ronaldo]

I read an interview with Colo a few months back in which he said he was using the gym after training to lift weights and had gained 5 kilos or so because of it. Perhaps the club have implemented personally-tailored training, or he could he have just decided himself that he needed to do it.

 

Either way, Guthrie (and a few others) should be involved in the same thing. A 'one size' approach suits nobody.

 

Training people for something they are not naturally built for and neglecting their strengths is asking to be raped! f***ing going on about Guthries weaknesses for months man. All this we must bulk up, you work for  Holland & Barrett or something?

 

You sound very impssive going on about hypertrophy etc but its all bollocks like

 

Kezman asked, I answered.

 

Kevin Nolan needs to lose weight, Coloccini and Guthrie need to gain a little, it's not rocket science. If you can't see that Danny Guthrie as a CM doesn't need to improve his physical strength/presence, you either don't go to the games or you're just attempting to initiate another daft arguement.

 

Nobody is asking for footballing strengths to be neglected. But blatant physical weaknesses need to be worked on, which is what athletes from every other sport do, no reason for it to be omitted from football.

[Guest]

Interview with Yilmaz the Bayern striker.

 

http://www.goal.com/fr/news/33/transferts/2010/07/31/2050486/all-bayern-yilmaz-mon-objectif-cest-de-passer-de-la-3-%C3%A8me

 

We heard of interest from Newcastle, Blackpool, WBA, Stoke & Blackburn. Can you confirm this?

Yes, I've had some concrete offers from England. I am convinced that my style of play would suit the English game perfectly. My aim is to go from the German Third Division, to the English Premier League, despite offers from Basle & Bruges.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

I read an interview with Colo a few months back in which he said he was using the gym after training to lift weights and had gained 5 kilos or so because of it. Perhaps the club have implemented personally-tailored training, or he could he have just decided himself that he needed to do it.

 

Either way, Guthrie (and a few others) should be involved in the same thing. A 'one size' approach suits nobody.

 

Training people for something they are not naturally built for and neglecting their strengths is asking to be raped! f***ing going on about Guthries weaknesses for months man. All this we must bulk up, you work for  Holland & Barrett or something?

 

You sound very impssive going on about hypertrophy etc but its all bollocks like

 

Kezman asked, I answered.

 

Kevin Nolan needs to lose weight, Coloccini and Guthrie need to gain a little, it's not rocket science. If you can't see that Danny Guthrie as a CM doesn't need to improve his physical strength/presence, you either don't go to the games or you're just attempting to initiate another daft arguement.

 

Nobody is asking for footballing strengths to be neglected. But blatant physical weaknesses need to be worked on, which is what athletes from every other sport do, no reason for it to be omitted from football.

 

So would Messi need to bulk up in order to be able to take on defences properly?

Guthrie is a passer, a thinking footballer. OK maybe where he plays for u he gets into battles, but thats no reason to say he needs to gain weight and bulk up, that would be to his detriment.

He'll need strength training and build up his muscular endurance like any other footballr, but if we're so concerned about his lack of physicality in the centre of the par then replace him, or get someone else in to do that job.

 

Guthrie's something like 5'8 ffs, if he gains weight and muscular bulk then he will be less mobile, fact. Then you'll be complaining about how his passing has demised.

If he doesn't build up with the regular training and weight raining he does then unfortunately that's just him. You don't then force it upon his body.

 

I'm not trying to start an arguement, I'm just opposing your opinion

[Ronaldo]

Messi is the best footballer in the world with very good athleticism and strength for his size, why on earth would he need to bulk up?

 

Guthrie is a very capable footballer who'll never hit his true potential if he can't last 90 minutes or hold someone off the ball. Something needs to change or he'll amount to very little in top level football.