Dave Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Douglas reckons Pardew is now 'pushing' the Enrique situation now and the Erdinc comments are 'interesting stuff'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 God, I hate lulls in the transfer window. Lull? Lull? How can you say it is a lull? More like a temporary lack of movement if you ask me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Douglas reckons Pardew is now 'pushing' the Enrique situation now and the Erdinc comments are 'interesting stuff'. Interesting as coming to nothing. Yeah, that is really interesting! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Douglas reckons Pardew is now 'pushing' the Enrique situation now and the Erdinc comments are 'interesting stuff'. He's saying it's positiv news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Positively dull maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Positive in terms of moving things on I'd imagine. Not necessarily positive in what we want as fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Hope Enrique sticks or twists soon, so we can work on getting a replacement in if he decides to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 well heres my two penneth, so quite a lot of you may want to check lewando's thread or put youtube on or something, but here goes..............if you're still reading at this point it's not too late to find something else............still here ? OK, and off we go. What a fucking stupid argument ! arguing the difference between attacks based purely on goals scored is something i'd hope my daughters would have grown put of before they are too far into their teens and then going on to do the same about defences. It's a team game and it's measured by winning games and moving up a table, man city were once the leagues top scorers and got relegated, scoring goals on its own is pointless and the best teams defend and attack as a team, yes we may have lost a squad centre half but how many times in the past have we looked shit at the back purely down to a shit midfield affording no support. we've lost nolans goals but seriously how many would have put him in our starting 11 this season ? andy cole outscored les ferdinand, how many on here would choose andy above sir les ?. andy carroll played in a system that was set up for him and nolan, quite possibly to the detriment of the rest of the team, when it worked it worked well,but when it didn't it was so bad and we were lacking in the ability (or more appropriatly,desire) to change it. doesn't it also mean our attack was only as good as west broms looking at things in this perculiar way ? it's quite possible we may score less than last season, i for one couldn't give a toss providing we improvethe football and league position (and i'd be prepared to put some money on it...on that subject it was mentioned before by someone about being able to get a bet on us getting more points than least season and getting evens, where is it, i want in before the odds tumble...thats serious btw,not being facetious). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Enrique's more than likely gone in a year anyway, I can't get positive about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I must admit, the Andy Cole of 93-94 is still the best striker i've ever seen at the club, even if the team was tailored to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I must admit, the Andy Cole of 93-94 is still the best striker i've ever seen at the club, even if the team was tailored to him. Reminds me of Jermaine Beckford. [move] [/move] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 well heres my two penneth, so quite a lot of you may want to check lewando's thread or put youtube on or something, but here goes..............if you're still reading at this point it's not too late to find something else............still here ? OK, and off we go. What a fucking stupid argument ! arguing the difference between attacks based purely on goals scored is something i'd hope my daughters would have grown put of before they are too far into their teens and then going on to do the same about defences. It's a team game and it's measured by winning games and moving up a table, man city were once the leagues top scorers and got relegated, scoring goals on its own is pointless and the best teams defend and attack as a team, yes we may have lost a squad centre half but how many times in the past have we looked shit at the back purely down to a shit midfield affording no support. we've lost nolans goals but seriously how many would have put him in our starting 11 this season ? andy cole outscored les ferdinand, how many on here would choose andy above sir les ?. andy carroll played in a system that was set up for him and nolan, quite possibly to the detriment of the rest of the team, when it worked it worked well,but when it didn't it was so bad and we were lacking in the ability (or more appropriatly,desire) to change it. doesn't it also mean our attack was only as good as west broms looking at things in this perculiar way ? it's quite possible we may score less than last season, i for one couldn't give a toss providing we improvethe football and league position (and i'd be prepared to put some money on it...on that subject it was mentioned before by someone about being able to get a bet on us getting more points than least season and getting evens, where is it, i want in before the odds tumble...thats serious btw,not being facetious). Tend to agree with you. The simplistic idea of 'total goals scored' and deducting from it when the likes of Nolan go is silly. Football is far more complex than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Speaking of simplistic, nobody did that did they? 40% of our Premier League goals last season came from players no longer at the club, that's factalicious. Hopefully we will replace them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Douglas reckons Pardew is now 'pushing' the Enrique situation now and the Erdinc comments are 'interesting stuff'. He's saying it's positiv news Rangers got da AIDS. BRRAAAP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Speaking of simplistic, nobody did that did they? 40% of our Premier League goals last season came from players no longer at the club. Hopefully we will replace them. yes people did, theres a few pages of debate over it. those players will be replaced, we wont play with 9 men and the effect we will watch for is that that they have on the team, not purely our goal count. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I think Ben Arfa, Ba and a fit Best will easily fill the void left by those two. It's the cover that let us down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Best deserves a chance - he's done nothing wrong and a lot right. It's worth bearing in mind had his Arsenal goal stood it would have been 7 goals in 11 games. Which is good for anyone! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I hope we keep Best. I don't think he's that good but he's an adequate third choice, and certainly offers more goal threat than Ameobi/Lovenkrands/Ranger. For what we'd get for him (though I'm not sure that matters any more seeing as it's apparently not linked) I don't think we'd get much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 There are gaps in his game that's plain to see - but he displayed some decent awareness and finishing and he's still got time to improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Speaking of simplistic, nobody did that did they? 40% of our Premier League goals last season came from players no longer at the club, that's factalicious. Hopefully we will replace them. Like madras says though we're not going to be playing with 9 men next season. Hopefully a triumvirate in midfield of Cabaye, Tioté and Ben Arfa will give us a much better platform to dominate games and outplay the opposition. In theory by dominating more games (like Pardew spoke about in that interview) you'll be limiting the goals you concede from the defence being under less pressure and maximising the amount of goals you can get out of the players in the attacking 3rd of the pitch. Yeah, we've lost Carroll and Nolan who scored our goals but it's far too easy to say "oh we've lost 40% of our goals". Not that I'm saying you're doing that, like, but you are hinting at it to an extent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I hope we keep Best. I don't think he's that good but he's an adequate third choice, and certainly offers more goal threat than Ameobi/Lovenkrands/Ranger. For what we'd get for him (though I'm not sure that matters any more seeing as it's apparently not linked) I don't think we'd get much better. yip. may be better than a third choice,my personal jury is out, but i wouldn't want to be entering a new season risking him as a starting forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 And yes I'm another that doesn't want to see Best sold. I don't think any on here do in all fairness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Given that he was just about the most in-form striker in the league when he got injured, it would be madness to contemplate selling him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Given that he was just about the most in-form striker in the league when he got injured, it would be madness to contemplate selling him. to be fair there was proably a spell when odemwingie was the form striker and otheres who aren't much good. if he carries it over a season or more then i'll be happy. there were still massive parts to his game that i didn't like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Like his 50 pence head? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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