mrmojorisin75 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 to be honest if liverpool bin rogers they deserve whatever comes next if you ask me, he needs 3 years to at least have a solid shot at it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Of course he does, but whether he'll be good enough after 3 years … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 depends what could legitimately be said to be good enough in that time frame imo, given that your talisman gerard will be more or less gone then for me this year challenge for europe next year strong challenge for europe, close to CL qual third year they should be challenging for the CL spots unless they spend citeh money regardless of what the fans think liverpool have no right to be demanding any more than that imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 This year they should be 7th minimum since we fucked up. They should be ahead of the likes of Swansea & WBA with the players they have. They should be a lot closer to Everton & Arsenal too imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 think you have to give him some leeway in trying to implement his "system" like, also bear in mind he was badly let down in the summer market european challenge should be enough for them this season imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 think you have to give him some leeway in trying to implement his "system" like, also bear in mind he was badly let down in the summer market european challenge should be enough for them this season imo They finished 8th last season, we fucked up, that should give them 7th. Also, WBA & Swansea have new managers too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 so what, he doesn't finish 7th his first season you'd hoy him out? i mean i hope they do for the ensuing chaos but being level-headed about it it would be a very, very harsh sacking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I'd just like to see some progress. The summer transfer window will be critical. If he wastes all the money like Kenny did, I'll be livid. Also, I don't like the crap he comes out with in press conferences. "Winning the passing" and blaming the kids he picked. He gives me the creeps, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 so what, he doesn't finish 7th his first season you'd hoy him out? i mean i hope they do for the ensuing chaos but being level-headed about it it would be a very, very harsh sacking No, I just think it'll be a bit of a failure if he doesn't get 7th at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Of course he does, but whether he'll be good enough after 3 years … Absolutely. The assumption that you give a manager X number of years and he then produces is a bit daft. Fergie was given time, because it was plain he WAS getting there at Man U. Not every manager will produce if you're patient. Sometimes you're only prolonging the inevitable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 think you have to give him some leeway in trying to implement his "system" like, also bear in mind he was badly let down in the summer market european challenge should be enough for them this season imo Badly let down? They spent 15M on Allen, 10M on Borini (both assuredly "his" players), a couple of million each on players for the future, then shed a few squad players. They then spunked 12M on Sturridge in Jan. I've said earlier in the thread, the comparison with AVB suggests that he has underperformed. I actually think he's doing a decent job, and certainly needs more time, but you can't argue that he hasn't been backed in the transfer market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 he was left with 1 proper striker after the summer window, which is clearly what i was referrring to...we were almost up in arms 'cause we didn't sign someone to play with ba and cisse ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 he was left with 1 proper striker after the summer window, which is clearly what i was referrring to...we were almost up in arms 'cause we didn't sign someone to play with ba and cisse ffs Well he was the one that decided to loan out Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 fine he's shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Finally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 fine he's s*** I still think he's done a good job. Borini was supposed to score goals. Now he has Sturridge to play with too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Of course he does, but whether he'll be good enough after 3 years … Absolutely. The assumption that you give a manager X number of years and he then produces is a bit daft. Fergie was given time, because it was plain he WAS getting there at Man U. Not every manager will produce if you're patient. Sometimes you're only prolonging the inevitable It wasn't clear that Ferguson was getting there at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Didn't Fergie win a cup and then a bunch of the best English players of the last 30 years dropped into his lap through no effort of his own? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 There was still a gap between them winning the cup and the latter though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Oh right. Don't really know, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Didn't Fergie win a cup and then a bunch of the best English players of the last 30 years dropped into his lap through no effort of his own? FA cup League Cup and Cup Winners Cup before he won the league. Plus the likes of Neville Beckham and Scholes weren't for a few years after they won the first league title before they became regulars and people were questioning his sanity when he decided to put his faith in them clearing out some of the old guard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 and wasn't fergie instrumental in overhauling their youth system thus ensuring beckham, scholes etc. did fall into his lap? as far as i know every tiny modicum of footballing success they've had can pretty much be attributed to him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steggy Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02/12/who-said-it-rodgers-brent_n_2667551.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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