Guest Slarth Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 "The penalty is suspended until after the outcome of any appeal, or the time for appealing expires, or should Mr Suarez decide not to appeal. The reason for this is to ensure that the penalty does not take effect before any appeal so that Mr Suarez has an effective right of appeal." Surely this implies it doesn't start for 14 days whatever? It does seem that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Meltdown on RAWK is great. Its like us after transfer deadline day x1000 and every poster is Colocho. http://i.imgur.com/ROwJ8.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugatu Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Would an appeal really do any good? It's not as if the decision was made in the spur of the moment. They have already reviewed the evidence over a number of days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 "The penalty is suspended until after the outcome of any appeal, or the time for appealing expires, or should Mr Suarez decide not to appeal. The reason for this is to ensure that the penalty does not take effect before any appeal so that Mr Suarez has an effective right of appeal." Surely this implies it doesn't start for 14 days whatever? aye, unless he comes out beforehand and decides not to appeal i assume? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Meanwhile... http://www.b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk/data/gif/8278.2n850dh.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Massive decision to made by Liverpool to appeal or not. If they lose they'll be seen as supporting a racist. Or believing in his innocence as they'll put it, the scouser i work with told me that Saurez used the term N..ro in spanish at Evra, if Liverpool fans know that then surely someone heard it to back up Evra like, i suppose we will find that out soon enough and see that rumour is right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I dunno he can say he doesn't want to and then change his mind I'd imagine so would guess it's just the 14 day period. Wasn't liverpool's defence basically Suarez wasn't aware it was considered racist over here? Saying that rather confirms he said that even if in Uruguay it's genuinely not racist (don't really buy that since then he surely would have said it to team mates, not angrily at Evra, and had he done so I guess the club would have told him to stop doing so. FA presumably said ignorance is not an excuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I look forward to seeing Dogleg trying to defend him now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Would have loved him to be out for the season. If only just as a statement that racism isnt welcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 As much as this is an amusing outcome, am I the only one missing something here? What evidence was there? Is it just one word against another? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I look forward to seeing Dogleg trying to defend him now Which he is bound to, and in a way that will really annoy too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Liverpool are definitely going to appeal like. In doing so, Dalglish will be very vocal in his defence for Suarez. Then if the appeal is rejected, Dalglish will have a lot of explaining to do.........wonder if he's a big enough man to say that he got it wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 As much as this is an amusing outcome, am I the only one missing something here? What evidence was there? Is it just one word against another? Cant be as that couldn't be proved, must have been overheard by others, hope the evidence comes out so we can have little look like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 As much as this is an amusing outcome, am I the only one missing something here? What evidence was there? Is it just one word against another? They have taken their time on the matter so I'm sure they've been thorough in their investigation. The evidence will probably be released to the press at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Gerrin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 What gets me with the whole 'it's just a term of endearment in Uruguay' defence is surely should you be put in this situation, where you've accidently said something really bad without realising or with any intent, one should immediately apologise profusely, and react with horror to the implication? If I'd said something racist by complete accident I'd hope i'd not be, well no lol i'm not racist so there... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Those who are saying eight games is excessive need to give their head a massive shake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 One pool fan on RAWK claims essentially calling someone a n*gger is to merely refer to skin colour, and not racist in any way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Dagliesh will claim injustice and go on repeated rants which will end up with FA punishing him by banning him from the sidelines for most of the season, and then their season implodes! Oh...no wait actually not having Dagliesh on the side could improve Liverpool, Suarez's masterstroke for the club! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphrodite Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Evidence is being released in next few days. Great suggestion on RAWK- taking a banner saying 'negrito' to next Liverpool game in solidarity Cos that wouldn't make them look ridiculous at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Evidence is being released in next few days. Great suggestion on RAWK- taking a banner saying 'negrito' to next Liverpool game in solidarity Cos that wouldn't make them look ridiculous at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Best fans in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Statement from Liverpool: Liverpool FC statement 20th Dec 2011 - Latest News Liverpool Football Club is very surprised and disappointed with the decision of the Football Association Commission to find Luis Suarez guilty of the charges against him. We look forward to the publication of the Commission's Judgment. We will study the detailed reasons of the Commission once they become available, but reserve our right to appeal or take any other course of action we feel appropriate with regards to this situation. We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no-one else on the field of play - including Evra's own Manchester United teammates and all the match officials - heard the alleged conversation between the two players in a crowded Kop goalmouth while a corner kick was about to be taken. The Club takes extremely seriously the fight against all forms of discrimination and has a long and successful track record in work relating to anti-racist activity and social inclusion. We remain committed to this ideal and equality for all, irrespective of a person's background. LFC considers racism in any form to be unacceptable - without compromise. It is our strong held belief, having gone over the facts of the case, that Luis Suarez did not commit any racist act. It is also our opinion that the accusation by this particular player was not credible - certainly no more credible than his prior unfounded accusations. It is key to note that Patrice Evra himself in his written statement in this case said 'I don't think that Luis Suarez is racist'. The FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suarez was not racist. Luis himself is of a mixed race family background as his grandfather was black. He has been personally involved since the 2010 World Cup in a charitable project which uses sport to encourage solidarity amongst people of different backgrounds with the central theme that the colour of a person's skin does not matter; they can all play together as a team. He has played with black players and mixed with their families whilst with the Uruguay national side and was Captain at Ajax Amsterdam of a team with a proud multi-cultural profile, many of whom became good friends. It seems incredible to us that a player of mixed heritage should be accused and found guilty in the way he has based on the evidence presented. We do not recognise the way in which Luis Suarez has been characterised. It appears to us that the FA were determined to bring charges against Luis Suarez, even before interviewing him at the beginning of November. Nothing we have heard in the course of the hearing has changed our view that Luis Suarez is innocent of the charges brought against him and we will provide Luis with whatever support he now needs to clear his name. We would also like to know when the FA intend to charge Patrice Evra with making abusive remarks to an opponent after he admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suarez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms. Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult. http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/liverpool-fc-statement-8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Evidence is being released in next few days. Great suggestion on RAWK- taking a banner saying 'negrito' to next Liverpool game in solidarity Cos that wouldn't make them look ridiculous at all. Bloody hell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Evidence is being released in next few days. Great suggestion on RAWK- taking a banner saying 'negrito' to next Liverpool game in solidarity Cos that wouldn't make them look ridiculous at all. The Liverpool way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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