Delima Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 To me France 1998 and Spain 2010 have many similarities. Great football nations, perennial underachievers, one-time world cup winner, and the same team also won European Championship. The great French team won World Cup 1998 (hosted in France) and European Championship 2000 This great Spanish team won European Championship 2008 and World Cup 2010 The French team have Zidane, Vieira, Henry, Desailly, Thuram etc The Spanish team have Xavi, Iniesta, Villa, Torres, Puyol, Casillas etc Which team would rank higher, 50 years later ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 France. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 I voted France because I think they were the better team. But how the hell are we supposed to vote now based on what we might think 50 years later?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 France. Its not even close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 It's too early to tell. The main reason being that Spain played generally against teams in this world cup that all tried to use the same tactic, soak up pressure and go on the counter attack, I think considering that was the only tactic that was deemed to work against them, and it yet it only worked via one fluky goal for Switzerland shows just how good they were. France played against much more outwardly, expansive attacking teams iirc and could counter attack themselves. When I've seen both teams firing on all cylinders, I prefer Spain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 France. Its not even close. to be fair, it's not that far away...also the french team died of old age after 2000 - there's plenty left in this spanish side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 It's too early to tell. The main reason being that Spain played generally against teams in this world cup that all tried to use the same tactic, soak up pressure and go on the counter attack, I think considering that was the only tactic that was deemed to work against them, and it yet it only worked via one fluky goal for Switzerland shows just how good they were. France played against much more outwardly, expansive attacking teams iirc and could counter attack themselves. When I've seen both teams firing on all cylinders, I prefer Spain. This. France were a surprise in 1998 and nobody had planned for them which allowed them to express their football freely. Everybody has tried to pull an Inter on us in this WC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamninator Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 France. Its not even close. to be fair, it's not that far away...also the french team died of old age after 2000 - there's plenty left in this spanish side Didn't the 1998 side still provide the backbone of the team that came 2nd in 2006? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 France. Its not even close. to be fair, it's not that far away...also the french team died of old age after 2000 - there's plenty left in this spanish side Didn't the 1998 side still provide the backbone of the team that came 2nd in 2006? No. Henry/Vieira/Pires had very secondary roles in the 1998 win. Only Zidane links both teams really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Also, apart from how Zidane schooled Brazil in the final, France wasn't that dominating. I think people take the final's performance (indeed one of the finest) and extend it to the whole tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 I still wonder how that final might have went if Ronaldo hadn't have had that weird injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Also, apart from how Zidane schooled Brazil in the final, France wasn't that dominating. I think people take the final's performance (indeed one of the finest) and extend it to the whole tournament. This - while not exactly a one-man-band, they were carried to a certain extent by Zidane. No Newcastle fan can forget that France's World Cup winning team had a strikeforce of Stephane Guivarch! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 They weren't carried by Zidane in 98, he even missed 2 and bit games for them after getting sent off. He popped up with the goods in the final but from a personal point he was much better in 06. Still to answer the question I would say Spain 2010. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Incidentally does this mean that Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol, Pique, Pedro, Casillas, and possibly Ramos have now won it all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Goalkeeper - Spain Defence - France Midfield - Spain Attack - Spain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Spain, easily. They dominate every match they play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Spain, easily. They dominate every match they play. I've never seen a team like it in my life, not sure about the old great Brazil teams but Spain take the piss sometimes the way they dominate possession against good players and teams. I mean last night Holland, FUCKING HOLLAND were reduced to chasing them around like bairns vs. adults and kicking fuck out of them to try and get the ball back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Spain, easily. They dominate every match they play. I've never seen a team like it in my life, not sure about the old great Brazil teams but Spain take the piss sometimes the way they dominate possession against good players and teams. I mean last night Holland, f***ing HOLLAND were reduced to chasing them around like bairns vs. adults and kicking f*** out of them to try and get the ball back. I agree, but I think Germany is a better example. Holland were not a patch on the Germans imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Spain 2008 was the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 I guess it depends on wha you are looking for. If your thing is ball possession and cute passes, then Spain takes it but the French team was lethal on the attack, so much penetration. For me it is the latter. Plus the French team had a more solid defence. Don't get me wrong, I like the way Spain played but to me they just didnt have the cutting edge of the French team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 The French team that won Euro 2000. Zidane was at his very best that tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 I personally think that Spain have had to contend with teams whose tactic is based more around Spain, than their own. France played teams that could compete in an attacking sense. Spain haven't played anyone in this tournament that's truly attacked them. And they'll still won it. It's a bit of an exaggeration, but its been a bit like Arsenal playing Blackburn for quite a few games in a row. If they'd played Brazil I think you'd have seen Spain at their true best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Spain by a long mile. If Brazil and Ronaldo didn't have a spazz out before the final it could have been totally different. Spain are head and shoulders above any other team at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Stephan Guivarc'h. or in English... Stephen Raggygash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Im with Tooj,the French team which won Euro 2000 were better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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