High Five o Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 We are going to need to buy a much better DM if we are going to be using 2 wingers, neither will offer the necessary cover defensively to help the likes of Smith at this level. Shame the Arevalo deal isnt real. Barton will do as DM. Barton is a box to box midfielder, as is Guthrie as is Gosling. We need someone to just sit in front of the back 4 and break attacks up. The only person who barely resembles that is Smith, and he's not exactly an expert at it. No we don't. We seemed to do alright when we had Speed and Lee together. That is ages since mate, football evolve. Pretty much all the good teams have a good DM to offload the defence. And it allows the fullbacks to go on offensive runs more often. It might be the most important role for our team next season.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Totally agree High Five. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 We are going to need to buy a much better DM if we are going to be using 2 wingers, neither will offer the necessary cover defensively to help the likes of Smith at this level. Shame the Arevalo deal isnt real. Barton will do as DM. Barton is a box to box midfielder, as is Guthrie as is Gosling. We need someone to just sit in front of the back 4 and break attacks up. The only person who barely resembles that is Smith, and he's not exactly an expert at it. No we don't. We seemed to do alright when we had Speed and Lee together. That is ages since mate, football evolve. Pretty much all the good teams have a good DM to offload the defence. And it allows the fullbacks to go on offensive runs more often. It might be the most important role for our team next year.... But not someone who "just sits in front of the back 4" like you suggested. Schweinsteiger would be a brilliant example for a perfect DM nowadays. Does he only sit back? No. Edit: Sorry, you didn't suggest that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Not a bad lineup even if we don't sign another striker Harper Taylor Sol Coloccini Jose Routledge Barton Guthrie Jonas Ben Arfa Carroll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 not bad at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 We are going to need to buy a much better DM if we are going to be using 2 wingers, neither will offer the necessary cover defensively to help the likes of Smith at this level. Shame the Arevalo deal isnt real. Barton will do as DM. Barton is a box to box midfielder, as is Guthrie as is Gosling. We need someone to just sit in front of the back 4 and break attacks up. The only person who barely resembles that is Smith, and he's not exactly an expert at it. No we don't. We seemed to do alright when we had Speed and Lee together. Different team completely. We can't go away from home and just attack now. Plus Speed and Lee were twice the player of any of our current centre mids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Judging by some of the comments from those who have seen this player regularly, a Loan deal is probably the best thing for the club. We do not want, or need, any more erratic players who are brilliant one minute and then anonymous for the next 45. It will be tough enough to stay in the PL and to create a good team spirit when results are going badly without having players who are either prima donnas or very inconsistent. I remember 'Jinky' Jimmy Smith, who Joe Harvey paid a club record fee of 100,000 GBP to Aberdeen after we won the Fairs Cup ; Smith was supposed to be the final piece in the jig-saw that was going to transform us into genuine domestic honours challengers after our Euro success and Smith did indeed possess brilliant skills. I once saw him destroy Mike Bailey and Wolves on his own - nutmegs a plenty on Bailey etc., but these events were few and far between. Joe Harvey said that when he congratulated Smith on his performance, there was nothing there ; no exultation, pleasure at a job well done, just nothing...and Joe said he knew then that Smith was never going to reach his potential. If HBA joins on loan, he has to do the business - as others have said, our history with French players is hardly star-studded ; only Ginola and Robert have really done the business and not for too long either. We can then see whether he is worth the money and also if he is going to be a good member of the squad or not. If the club is to survive and prosper this season, we need ALL hands at the pumps - no passengers pls. our whole CM apart from barton and guthrie will be totally anonymous for the whole of next season quality players will you games simple as and that is the name of the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 We are going to need to buy a much better DM if we are going to be using 2 wingers, neither will offer the necessary cover defensively to help the likes of Smith at this level. Shame the Arevalo deal isnt real. Barton will do as DM. Barton is a box to box midfielder, as is Guthrie as is Gosling. We need someone to just sit in front of the back 4 and break attacks up. The only person who barely resembles that is Smith, and he's not exactly an expert at it. Barton maybe was a box-to-box midfielder who drove on the game of his team (at Man City, under KK here maybe as well). His apparances last season and in pre-season (against depor) suggest he's more like a DM now sitting deep and trying to get some good balls through the defence into the run of our strikers. Have to admit I haven't seen much of pre-season, but he is definitely best going forward, the one pass for Routledge's goal against Plymouth suggests that he could play the role, but that was against Plymouth. Schweinsteiger is the prototype for the DM as you say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Not a bad lineup even if we don't sign another striker Harper Taylor Sol Coloccini Jose Routledge Barton Guthrie Jonas Ben Arfa Carroll Pretty decent actually Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Fucking fantastic if he signs :thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 quality players will you games simple as and that is the name of the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 We are going to need to buy a much better DM if we are going to be using 2 wingers, neither will offer the necessary cover defensively to help the likes of Smith at this level. Shame the Arevalo deal isnt real. Barton will do as DM. Barton is a box to box midfielder, as is Guthrie as is Gosling. We need someone to just sit in front of the back 4 and break attacks up. The only person who barely resembles that is Smith, and he's not exactly an expert at it. No we don't. We seemed to do alright when we had Speed and Lee together. That is ages since mate, football evolve. Pretty much all the good teams have a good DM to offload the defence. And it allows the fullbacks to go on offensive runs more often. It might be the most important role for our team next year.... But not someone who "just sits in front of the back 4" like you suggested. Schweinsteiger would be a brilliant example for a perfect DM nowadays. Does he only sit back? No. Edit: Sorry, you didn't suggest that. Hehe, no i dident But i still disagree with you regarding Schweinsteiger. He is more box-box, and Bayern and Germany benefit most from he`s offencive work. I acctualy think Sami Khedira on the other hand, is more of a good midfield anchor imo. *If we are comparing DE WC preformance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Not a bad lineup even if we don't sign another striker Harper Taylor Sol Coloccini Jose Routledge Barton Guthrie Jonas Ben Arfa Carroll Pretty decent actually Nolan not in the starting line up There will be rebellion in the dressing room..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Whaaaaaat...has there been some progress? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Well Barton will be injured before too long, so it will be Nolan in for him should we use that as our "best team template" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 We are going to need to buy a much better DM if we are going to be using 2 wingers, neither will offer the necessary cover defensively to help the likes of Smith at this level. Shame the Arevalo deal isnt real. Barton will do as DM. Barton is a box to box midfielder, as is Guthrie as is Gosling. We need someone to just sit in front of the back 4 and break attacks up. The only person who barely resembles that is Smith, and he's not exactly an expert at it. What Danny Guthrie have you been watching? He's a decent CM, but I wouldn't say he was a dynamic box to box midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 We are going to need to buy a much better DM if we are going to be using 2 wingers, neither will offer the necessary cover defensively to help the likes of Smith at this level. Shame the Arevalo deal isnt real. Barton will do as DM. Barton is a box to box midfielder, as is Guthrie as is Gosling. We need someone to just sit in front of the back 4 and break attacks up. The only person who barely resembles that is Smith, and he's not exactly an expert at it. What Danny Guthrie have you been watching? He's a decent CM, but I wouldn't say he was a dynamic box to box midfielder. He's clearly confusing him with Danny Gootrie, our stand-in midfielder on Tuesday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Whaaaaaat...has there been some progress? Tenuous internet links say so - still very doubtful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 We are going to need to buy a much better DM if we are going to be using 2 wingers, neither will offer the necessary cover defensively to help the likes of Smith at this level. Shame the Arevalo deal isnt real. Barton will do as DM. Barton is a box to box midfielder, as is Guthrie as is Gosling. We need someone to just sit in front of the back 4 and break attacks up. The only person who barely resembles that is Smith, and he's not exactly an expert at it. What Danny Guthrie have you been watching? He's a decent CM, but I wouldn't say he was a dynamic box to box midfielder. He's clearly confusing him with Danny Gootrie, our stand-in midfielder on Tuesday. It was like North Tynside United from PES, or whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 The way the club works now, I don't believe anything until I see it on the official site or see a photo of them at the training ground. Usually the two go hand in hand so you can see my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Big Mike did tell us through his sterling communique that Newcastle wouldn't be admitting to anything regarding transfers this Summer! So far I like his style, complete opposite of Fat Freddy and his: "How yee, fat kid, tell everyone we ganna be signing Ronaldo. Go on, young 'un, naff off and tell the world!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Big Mike did tell us through his sterling communique that Newcastle wouldn't be admitting to anything regarding transfers this Summer! So far I like his style, complete opposite of Fat Freddy and his: "How yee, fat kid, tell everyone we ganna be signing Ronaldo. Go on, young 'un, naff off and tell the world!" Oh wow, that just reminded me of FS pledge to reveal an earth-shattering signing or sommat... and then our, erm, attempt to get Wayne Rooney. Seems like a distant dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 We are going to need to buy a much better DM if we are going to be using 2 wingers, neither will offer the necessary cover defensively to help the likes of Smith at this level. Shame the Arevalo deal isnt real. Barton will do as DM. Barton is a box to box midfielder, as is Guthrie as is Gosling. We need someone to just sit in front of the back 4 and break attacks up. The only person who barely resembles that is Smith, and he's not exactly an expert at it. No we don't. We seemed to do alright when we had Speed and Lee together. That is ages since mate, football evolve. Pretty much all the good teams have a good DM to offload the defence. And it allows the fullbacks to go on offensive runs more often. It might be the most important role for our team next year.... But not someone who "just sits in front of the back 4" like you suggested. Schweinsteiger would be a brilliant example for a perfect DM nowadays. Does he only sit back? No. Edit: Sorry, you didn't suggest that. Hehe, no i dident But i still disagree with you regarding Schweinsteiger. He is more box-box, and Bayern and Germany benefit most from he`s offencive work. I acctualy think Sami Khedira on the other hand, is more of a good midfield anchor imo. *If we are comparing DE WC preformance. At the World Cup, Khedira was attacking more than Schweinsteiger was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 What's the thread title about? There's fuck all new. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 What's the thread title about? There's f*** all new. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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