Hatem Ben Arfa

[Colos Short and Curlies]

Big Mike did tell us through his sterling communique that Newcastle wouldn't be admitting to anything regarding transfers this Summer! So far I like his style, complete opposite of Fat Freddy and his:

 

"How yee, fat kid, tell everyone we ganna be signing Ronaldo. Go on, young 'un, naff off and tell the world!"

 

Oh wow, that just reminded me of FS pledge to reveal an earth-shattering signing or sommat... and then our, erm, attempt to get Wayne Rooney. Seems like a distant dream.

 

Can you remember the 'We can sign any defender in the world' comment a week before we signed Andy O'Brien?

[geordiedean]

Not a bad lineup even if we don't sign another striker

 

                      Harper

 

Taylor       Sol           Coloccini    Jose

 

Routledge  Barton    Guthrie     Jonas

 

                           Ben Arfa

 

                     Carroll

 

Nolan who will be club captain is a certainty to be in the team.....guthrie just doesnt have it to cut it at prem level as we will find out

[Weznufc]

Not a bad lineup even if we don't sign another striker

 

                      Harper

 

Taylor       Sol           Coloccini    Jose

 

Routledge  Barton    Guthrie     Jonas

 

                           Ben Arfa

 

                     Carroll

 

Nolan who will be club captain is a certainty to be in the team.....guthrie just doesnt have it to cut it at prem level as we will find out

 

 

so replace nolan for guthrie?

[steve_69]

Not a bad lineup even if we don't sign another striker

 

                      Harper

 

Taylor       Sol           Coloccini    Jose

 

Routledge  Barton    Guthrie     Jonas

 

                           Ben Arfa

 

                     Carroll

 

Nolan who will be club captain is a certainty to be in the team.....guthrie just doesnt have it to cut it at prem level as we will find out

 

Even if you stick fatty Nolan in there instead of Guthrie, it still looks pretty tidy

[Guest BlacknWhiteArmy]

I don't like to think of Kevin Nolan playing in central midfield, in the Premier League. Not even worth thinking about!

[ponsaelius]

Not a bad lineup even if we don't sign another striker

 

                      Harper

 

Taylor       Sol           Coloccini    Jose

 

Routledge  Barton    Guthrie     Jonas

 

                           Ben Arfa

 

                     Carroll

 

Nolan who will be club captain is a certainty to be in the team.....guthrie just doesnt have it to cut it at prem level as we will find out

 

Either does Nolan. Infact I have far more faith in Guthrie doing so than fatboy.

[Mistle17]

I don't like to think of Kevin Nolan playing in central midfield, in the Premier League. Not even worth thinking about!

 

Agreed. We we're completely overran that way against Championship teams, not worth thinking about against a decent PL side....

[pedro111]

Someone send me a pm when he signs. I can't be arsed reading all this bluster tbh.

[TaylorJ_01]

Guthrie and Barton really need to up their level of performance. Ben Arfa will be having to drop back in that line-up, leaving Carroll lost upfront.

[TaylorJ_01]

Someone send me a pm when he signs. I can't be arsed reading all this bluster tbh.

 

It's a forum you twunt.

[David28]

German newspaper "kicker" claims Ben Arfa won't be going to Hoffenheim. They normally are spot on with their news.

[Guest GAMMELL]

thread title is bollocks, change it back NOW 

[jdckelly]

German newspaper "kicker" claims Ben Arfa won't be going to Hoffenheim. They normally are spot on with their news.

which does not mean he will be coming here either

yes i still refuse to believe this is a possibility

[David28]

German newspaper "kicker" claims Ben Arfa won't be going to Hoffenheim. They normally are spot on with their news.

which does not mean he will be coming here either

yes i still refuse to believe this is a possibility

 

I haven't said that. I was just saying that he won't be going there.

[SteveMc]

German newspaper "kicker" claims Ben Arfa won't be going to Hoffenheim. They normally are spot on with their news.

 

That is interesting.  If they are relaible it is really good news as all the signs were that Hoffenheim were the most viable option.

[Guest neesy111]

German newspaper "kicker" claims Ben Arfa won't be going to Hoffenheim. They normally are spot on with their news.

 

That is interesting.  If they are relaible it is really good news as all the signs were that Hoffenheim were the most viable option.

 

hmm, making me feel more comfortable

[David28]

German newspaper "kicker" claims Ben Arfa won't be going to Hoffenheim. They normally are spot on with their news.

 

That is interesting.  If they are relaible it is really good news as all the signs were that Hoffenheim were the most viable option.

 

That's why I posted it.

 

I thought from what I've heard yesterday that he'll either go to us or Hoffenheim.

[David28]

German newspaper "kicker" claims Ben Arfa won't be going to Hoffenheim. They normally are spot on with their news.

 

Link?

 

I still buy some newspaper that is actually made of paper, you know.

 

Will look for some link, though.

[jdckelly]

German newspaper "kicker" claims Ben Arfa won't be going to Hoffenheim. They normally are spot on with their news.

 

Link?

 

I still buy some newspaper that is actually made of paper, you know.

 

Will look for some link, though.

blasphemy

[High Five o]

We are going to need to buy a much better DM if we are going to be using 2 wingers, neither will offer the necessary cover defensively to help the likes of Smith at this level.

 

Shame the Arevalo deal isnt real.

 

Barton will do as DM.

 

Barton is a box to box midfielder, as is Guthrie as is Gosling. We need someone to just sit in front of the back 4 and break attacks up. The only person who barely resembles that is Smith, and he's not exactly an expert at it.

 

No we don't. We seemed to do alright when we had Speed and Lee together.

 

That is ages since mate, football evolve.

Pretty much all the good teams have a good DM to offload the defence.

And it allows the fullbacks to go on offensive runs more often.

 

It might be the most important role for our team next year....

 

But not someone who "just sits in front of the back 4" like you suggested.

 

Schweinsteiger would be a brilliant example for a perfect DM nowadays.

 

Does he only sit back? No.

 

Edit: Sorry, you didn't suggest that.   

 

Hehe, no i dident

 

But i still disagree with you regarding Schweinsteiger.

He is more box-box, and Bayern and Germany benefit most from he`s offencive work.

I acctualy think Sami Khedira on the other hand, is more of a good midfield anchor imo.

 

*If we are comparing DE WC preformance.

 

At the World Cup, Khedira was attacking more than Schweinsteiger was.

 

You are right i think, dident check my facts before posting khedira was not a good example.

 

But my statment stands, as i dont think Schweinsteiger is that kind of protective DM as i was thinking about.

I was thinking more in the tracks of Mascherano, Busquets and to a extend Carrick and mikel...

 

I might be wrong about Schweinsteiger, but i am under the impression that he roams forward to much to be concidered a good DM.

[madras]

We are going to need to buy a much better DM if we are going to be using 2 wingers, neither will offer the necessary cover defensively to help the likes of Smith at this level.

 

Shame the Arevalo deal isnt real.

 

Barton will do as DM.

 

Barton is a box to box midfielder, as is Guthrie as is Gosling. We need someone to just sit in front of the back 4 and break attacks up. The only person who barely resembles that is Smith, and he's not exactly an expert at it.

 

No we don't. We seemed to do alright when we had Speed and Lee together.

 

That is ages since mate, football evolve.

Pretty much all the good teams have a good DM to offload the defence.

And it allows the fullbacks to go on offensive runs more often.

 

It might be the most important role for our team next season....

if you are going to play two orthodox wide men in a 4-4-2 (or 4-4-1-1) then don't have a DM. 2 clever box to boxers are much better. yes pretty much all the good team have a good DM, pretty much none of them play a standard 4-4-2 like we look to be sizing up for.

[David28]

German newspaper "kicker" claims Ben Arfa won't be going to Hoffenheim. They normally are spot on with their news.

 

Link?

 

Can't find a link on their website, only link I can find is this:

 

http://www.fussballtransfers.com/hoffenheim-lauft-die-zeit-davon_article10994.html

 

Die Verhandlungen wurden aufgenommen, 1899 soll rund fünf Millionen Euro geboten haben.

 

Laut Informationen des ‚kicker’ hat sich der Transfer allerdings zerschlagen.

[ElDiablo]

Fuck off, got excited then. Change the thread title!

[JH]

Not a bad lineup even if we don't sign another striker

 

                      Harper

 

Taylor       Sol           Coloccini    Jose

 

Routledge  Barton    Guthrie     Jonas

 

                           Ben Arfa

 

                     Carroll

 

Nolan who will be club captain is a certainty to be in the team.....guthrie just doesnt have it to cut it at prem level as we will find out

 

I don't see how anyone can claim Guthrie is any less or more likely to be successful than Barton in the PL

[High Five o]

We are going to need to buy a much better DM if we are going to be using 2 wingers, neither will offer the necessary cover defensively to help the likes of Smith at this level.

 

Shame the Arevalo deal isnt real.

 

Barton will do as DM.

 

Barton is a box to box midfielder, as is Guthrie as is Gosling. We need someone to just sit in front of the back 4 and break attacks up. The only person who barely resembles that is Smith, and he's not exactly an expert at it.

 

No we don't. We seemed to do alright when we had Speed and Lee together.

 

That is ages since mate, football evolve.

Pretty much all the good teams have a good DM to offload the defence.

And it allows the fullbacks to go on offensive runs more often.

 

It might be the most important role for our team next season....

if you are going to play two orthodox wide men in a 4-4-2 (or 4-4-1-1) then don't have a DM. 2 clever box to boxers are much better. yes pretty much all the good team have a good DM, pretty much none of them play a standard 4-4-2 like we look to be sizing up for.

 

I see your point, but i still disagree.

442 old school style did not have a dedicated DM, but most have it now.

They are not so defensive as in a 433 or 4231, but they are there, and they do a job.

When Manu are playing 442, carrick usually play DM. He holds back and play in support.

He is a deep defensive playmaker when in attack, and a "protector" when in defence.

He is there to interupt a counter attack, and try to break down play.

 

Two box-box will leave a massive hole infront of the center backs.

Exposing them for a lot of pressure, especially on counter attacks.

Wingbacks will be forced to stay more in defence due to this.