Dave Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Wonder who'll be the first to point out it wasn't even us who made this happen, so the club don't deserve credit for the idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 http://www.rtl.fr/fiche/5947911010/football-om-le-bras-de-fer-avec-hatem-ben-arfa-continue.html Audio interviews with Ben Arfa's lawyer (at least that's what the people on the Marseille forum say). If anyone can speak French, these may be of interest. - As it stands HBA has never said anything against his club or his manager. - He was made to understand last season that it was probably best for him to find another club - At the start of this season the manager, sporting director and president told him very clearly to find another club - Then there was talk of NUFC. But it wasn't HBA that found NUFC. It was OM through agents that made it happen - So we are in a situation that was engineered and wanted by Marseille, not HBA - After talks took place we were informed that NUFC had met all the conditions put forward by OM (loan deal with option to buy) - Yet OM seem to be messing about - Final word to HBA who yesterday said "I won't be going back to Marseille". So it sounds like we haven't fucked up then. I do not like Ashley or lambyarse one bit but some of the over reactions that go on about us "fucking it up" are comical Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Wonder who'll be the first to point out it wasn't even us who made this happen, so the club don't deserve credit for the idea. wonder where we were on oms club search list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 http://www.rtl.fr/fiche/5947911010/football-om-le-bras-de-fer-avec-hatem-ben-arfa-continue.html Audio interviews with Ben Arfa's lawyer (at least that's what the people on the Marseille forum say). If anyone can speak French, these may be of interest. - As it stands HBA has never said anything against his club or his manager. - He was made to understand last season that it was probably best for him to find another club - At the start of this season the manager, sporting director and president told him very clearly to find another club - Then there was talk of NUFC. But it wasn't HBA that found NUFC. It was OM through agents that made it happen - So we are in a situation that was engineered and wanted by Marseille, not HBA - After talks took place we were informed that NUFC had met all the conditions put forward by OM (loan deal with option to buy) - Yet OM seem to be messing about - Final word to HBA who yesterday said "I won't be going back to Marseille". So it sounds like we haven't fucked up then. I do not like Ashley or lambyarse one bit but some of the over reactions that go on about us "fucking it up" are comical its force of habit i think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I can't be arsed anymore to be honest. It's sucked the life out of me Welcome to loserville. Population - You! Your patter is the fucking worst like, the fucking worst. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 http://www.rtl.fr/fiche/5947911010/football-om-le-bras-de-fer-avec-hatem-ben-arfa-continue.html Audio interviews with Ben Arfa's lawyer (at least that's what the people on the Marseille forum say). If anyone can speak French, these may be of interest. - As it stands HBA has never said anything against his club or his manager. - He was made to understand last season that it was probably best for him to find another club - At the start of this season the manager, sporting director and president told him very clearly to find another club - Then there was talk of NUFC. But it wasn't HBA that found NUFC. It was OM through agents that made it happen - So we are in a situation that was engineered and wanted by Marseille, not HBA - After talks took place we were informed that NUFC had met all the conditions put forward by OM (loan deal with option to buy) - Yet OM seem to be messing about - Final word to HBA who yesterday said "I won't be going back to Marseille". Christ, that seems pretty clear then. Not desperate to go to Newcastle especially but we actually met the conditions for the deal to happen. Stop being dicks Marseille. /Nicely played Chris and the board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I can't be arsed anymore to be honest. It's sucked the life out of me Welcome to loserville. Population - You! Your patter is the f***ing worst like, the f***ing worst. I must have missed that one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 He basically has no idea who we are, does he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 He basically has no idea who we are, does he? Why's that then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 He basically has no idea who we are, does he? Why's that then? Sounds like he told his people "Just get me out of here. PL'll do. Cheers-tra-bye!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewellander Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 The club stated that they would put clauses in the offers to players that said that there had to be a press blackout on the negotiations and Hughton denied that there was any contact. To me, this suggests that all this talk by the agent is just that. It's talk. If we were in negotiations with the player or the club, nobody would be allowed to talk to the press about it. It's more likely that Ben Arfa wants to leave and the agent is trying to force a move, but necessarily to us. I'd be surprised if we actually sign Ben Arfa at this point. Don't get me wrong, though, I hope we do. He seems a promising player in a position we need to strengthen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 David Craig being a cunt on SSN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 So, err, 134 pages in, has anything actually happened? Are you getting him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 If Ben Arfa wants to buy out his contract, Marseille will have to agree to this one, which is unlikely as they probably reckon they can get a higher transfer fee. Ben Arfa would have to pay more than the salary remaining on his current contract for it to be multilateral. Otherwise it is unilateral: Ben Arfa and the club he signs for will together have to pay Marseille the value of his remaining Marseille contract. Additionally, because Ben Arfa did not hand in his notice within 15 days of the end of the french 2009/2010 season: Ben Arfa would be banned from playing for 4-6 months The club he signs for will be banned from registering any new players until July 2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 If Ben Arfa wants to buy out his contract, Marseille will have to agree to this one, which is unlikely as they probably reckon they can get a higher transfer fee. Ben Arfa would have to pay more than the salary remaining on his current contract for it to be multilateral. Otherwise it is unilateral: Ben Arfa and the club he signs for will together have to pay Marseille the value of his remaining Marseille contract. Additionally, because Ben Arfa did not hand in his notice within 15 days of the end of the french 2009/2010 season: Ben Arfa would be banned from playing for 4-6 months The club he signs for will be banned from registering any new players until July 2011 That is from this: Regulation for the Status and Transfers for Players Part IV Articles 13-17 http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/status_transfer_en_25.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Ashley potentially banned from making transfers until 2011? That might push this through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 David Craig being a cunt on SSN. What's the twat saying? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 David Craig being a cunt on SSN. That's a given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diddimz Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Just read through the last few pages, are we signing HBA or a Meerkat? I'm currently thinking I'd be happy either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I can't be arsed anymore to be honest. It's sucked the life out of me Welcome to loserville. Population - You! Your patter is the f***ing worst like, the f***ing worst. Um ... am I supposed to feel down about this? Patter? Are you for real? Sorry if my "internet patter" doesn't impress you. Guess I'm more used to communicating with people in the flesh. I doubt you can relate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 David Craig being a cunt on SSN. What's the twat saying? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 David Craig being a cunt on SSN. What's the twat saying? Wasn't actually being a cuntish twat, so I'm a bit taken back. Basically said the North-East had swallowed its bitter pill and was rebuilding. That Newcastle fans had started to 'forgive' Mike Ashley, and could see he was looking after the club. That we didn't understand how close we were to becoming Portsmouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 David Craig being a cunt on SSN. What's the twat saying? Wasn't actually being a cuntish twat, so I'm a bit taken back. Basically said the North-East had swallowed its bitter pill and was rebuilding. That Newcastle fans had started to 'forgive' Mike Ashley, and could see he was looking after the club. That we didn't understand how close we were to becoming Portsmouth. er............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Wonder if the fact it's the agent/advisors/etc being given permission to talk to us, and speaking to us, ties in with Hughton's "we've had no contact with Marseille" that he's stuck to since day one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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