Dr Venkman Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Pardew's not gonna change the system man, we're 4th in the league and defending like gods,it's not going to happen. Not a great game from HBA yesterday but a bit of class from him gave us the opportunity to score,and that's the second game in a row against top class opposition where this has been the case. They were noticeably dropping off him yesterday btw,there was one passage of play when he had so long on the ball he literally just stood still for about 3 seconds and they all just looked at him,was bizarre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 In two games against the best two teams in the league he has created 4 opportunities on his own. The kid is going to be epic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 In two games against the best two teams in the league he has created 4 opportunities on his own. The kid is going to be epic. http://www.panicposters.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/f63dc5ec28f3175f8a7f615bd217eb71/P/P/PP101-X-FILES-i-want-to.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 They were noticeably dropping off him yesterday btw,there was one passage of play when he had so long on the ball he literally just stood still for about 3 seconds and they all just looked at him,was bizarre. I remember that While he didn't have a barnstormer it's great watching him create space and move play around. With Tiote coming back Cabaye will be able to get more involved in attack and I think these two will knock up some awesome stuff together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Would be suicide to change to a 4-3-3 now. We experimented a little early on in the season with 4-5-1 and similar tactics, and it didn't work out then. One of the most importent reasons for our good start this season is our positions in the defensive play over the field. I'm not just talking about the defenders here, but the whole team all the way up to Ba (and Best). Sticking to our game plan with a classic 4-4-2 as we play now, is a must I think. I like teams that adjust to the players they have available, but in this case I think our players should adjust to the team and the game plan Pardew have. What I've seen so far that's how Pardew reasons too, which explains a few of the subs recently, like Lovenkrands yesterday. I was thinking more because Jonas is suspended and we don't have another winger in the squad who is as defensively disciplined as he is so we are going to have to play differently anyway. Btw, even though he was quiet i thought Ben Arfa looked a yard quicker when running at speed than he has done in other games so far. So good news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 A return to fitness/sharpness was always going to take him a while but I think we're starting to see the signs now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BEN BEN BEN ARFA Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 France from Newcastle United football remerci of us remi Hatem Ben Arfa up. Laurent Blanc is relieved he returned to form, it is Aplique, involve determination and a pleasure to see. Although his reaction was excessive rooney's fault. and it does not touch the captain colochini impunity rooney or not. Hatem is a brother that he will not leave the galley he will die for you whether there Hatem rising from the ashes like the phoenix The legend is back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I don't think we will see him at his best until he has played around 10 games tbh, hopefully he remains in the team now and builds that confidence. I do feel we need to improve our movement though to increase space for him, only Ba has real decent movement with Jonas and Obertan fairly static at times when we have posession rather than stretching the other teams defence. Could do with Cabaye/Guthrie making a few forward runs into space also, the one thing Gosling appears to be good at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 There's going to be a game soon against one of the bottom half clubs, where he'll run riot. I can see a Ginola-Cox style buggery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I don't think we will see him at his best until he has played around 10 games tbh, hopefully he remains in the team now and builds that confidence. I do feel we need to improve our movement though to increase space for him, only Ba has real decent movement with Jonas and Obertan fairly static at times when we have posession rather than stretching the other teams defence. Could do with Cabaye/Guthrie making a few forward runs into space also, the one thing Gosling appears to be good at. That will come, but you have to remember the opposition we have just played. The two best teams in the league. After the Chelski game, we have Norwich, Swansea and West Brom. Should be able to express ourselves a little more in these games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 There's going to be a game soon against one of the bottom half clubs, where he'll run riot. I can see a Ginola-Cox style buggery. Every time he has the ball he looks like he could take it and rape the other team, bit hit and miss at the moment but the other teams look shit scared of what he might do, saw that a couple of times against Man City and Man Utd and they are the best teams in this league. When he has the ball I would just like to see him drive forward with it and players around him to make runs, he has played a few great through balls and looks like he has good vision Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 We won't see him at his absolute best until next season,people under-estimate how long it takes to get to 100 percent. Look at Taylor this season and Barton last year,both after having proper pre-seasons for the first time in ages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I don't think we will see him at his best until he has played around 10 games tbh, hopefully he remains in the team now and builds that confidence. I do feel we need to improve our movement though to increase space for him, only Ba has real decent movement with Jonas and Obertan fairly static at times when we have posession rather than stretching the other teams defence. Could do with Cabaye/Guthrie making a few forward runs into space also, the one thing Gosling appears to be good at. That will come, but you have to remember the opposition we have just played. The two best teams in the league. After the Chelski game, we have Norwich, Swansea and West Brom. Should be able to express ourselves a little more in these games True, They will just kick him though. There was a lovely bit of play yesterday where him, guthrie and cabaye played the ball in a triangle and one of them was released into space. It would be nice to see us start to express ourselves as Cabaye and Ben Arfa have that ability to open things up if there is enough movement, we should be capable of making teams really panic. I would like Tiote back also as I think Cabaye and Guthrie although they have done well are to similar and Tiote is dynamic and powerful in there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I think he'll always be hit-and-miss tbh. That sort of player always are, otherwise he'd be at a Real Madrid or Barcelona now. He'll have games where he'll look the best player in the world, but even in games where he frustrates he'll have that something which will create something no-one else can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I think he'll always be hit-and-miss tbh. That sort of player always are, otherwise he'd be at a Real Madrid or Barcelona now. He'll have games where he'll look the best player in the world, but even in games where he frustrates he'll have that something which will create something no-one else can. Another Laurent Robert. God we've missed some French magic in the past few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I thought he made the likes of Rooney look like a lumbering pedestrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Don't start that shit again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Don't start that shit again. Eh? says the shit starter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 It was only a few weeks back some idiot on here said he was better than Rooney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 It was only a few weeks back some idiot on here said he was better than Rooney. he was yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benarfanufc10 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 It was only a few weeks back some idiot on here said he was better than Rooney. I don't say "he is better than rooney " and i say he has as much talent as rooney and ben arfa isn't 9 Ben arfa>Nasri Now Ben arfa>Nani mata vs ben arfa Ben arfa looks like recoba not robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 What? Well put. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 So easy to take the piss when English isn't a first language isn't it? We won't see the real HBA till he's started 6/7 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 It was only a few weeks back some idiot on here said he was better than Rooney. He'll start the old wanting to leave lark again when he realises ManU can only win the League Cup now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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