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@Michael : ok, i love your team but if you play like that, you have to drop one of the strikers and some people here don't want to drop Best because he's performing well  :undecided:

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There's always a little bit of fear in PL managers of playing 'too many' luxury/gifted players in the PL.

 

For now because Marv and Bafra aren't fully fit there is a kind of excuse (but they need games soon), but later there will still be the tendency of hardworking players getting preferance over purer footballers. In other words it will be hard for Marveux to shift Guti in the short term and

 

Pardoo will be reticent about dropping one of the 'big men' strikers for Bafra (till we lose a few games/injuries anyway).

 

The good thing about the current situation is that in certain postions really good players are waiting in the wings.

 

I agree changes to this team will probably only happen when we lose, it would take a brave manager to change a winning team. I think Spurs will be a step too far for one or two players who are currently holding down a first team place so Ben Arfa/Marveaux and Santon will be knocking on the door soon in any case.

 

I'd start Santon against Spurs anyway, but you're right Pardoo will be conservative about changing a 'winning team'.

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There's always a little bit of fear in PL managers of playing 'too many' luxury/gifted players in the PL.

 

For now because Marv and Bafra aren't fully fit there is a kind of excuse (but they need games soon), but later there will still be the tendency of hardworking players getting preferance over purer footballers. In other words it will be hard for Marveux to shift Guti in the short term and

 

Pardoo will be reticent about dropping one of the 'big men' strikers for Bafra (till we lose a few games/injuries anyway).

 

The good thing about the current situation is that in certain postions really good players are waiting in the wings.

 

I agree changes to this team will probably only happen when we lose, it would take a brave manager to change a winning team. I think Spurs will be a step too far for one or two players who are currently holding down a first team place so Ben Arfa/Marveaux and Santon will be knocking on the door soon in any case.

 

I'd start Santon against Spurs anyway, but you're right Pardoo will be conservative about changing a 'winning team'.

 

If he doesn't change the team to introduce HBA there, i will by myself knock at his door  :lol:

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There's always a little bit of fear in PL managers of playing 'too many' luxury/gifted players in the PL. For now because Marv and Bafra aren't fully fit there is a kind of excuse (but they need games soon), but later there will still be the tendency of hardworking players getting preferance over purer footballers. In other words it will be hard for Marveux to shift Guti in the short term and Pardoo will be reticent about dropping one of the 'big men' strikers for Bafra (till we lose a few games/injuries anyway).

 

The good thing about the current situation is that in certain postions really good players are waiting in the wings.

 

I understand what you mean but it depend what kind of football you want. When you speak about PL managers fearings, sorry but we can take Redknapp for example - I'm not even  talking about Sir Alex - I don't think he would hesitate between Marveaux and Jonas, or HBA and Best - with all my respects to Jonas and Best

Newcastle this season has all the ability to play beautiful football and everybody know that you have more chances to win if you play well, in the opponent's camp.

 

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There's always a little bit of fear in PL managers of playing 'too many' luxury/gifted players in the PL.

 

For now because Marv and Bafra aren't fully fit there is a kind of excuse (but they need games soon), but later there will still be the tendency of hardworking players getting preferance over purer footballers. In other words it will be hard for Marveux to shift Guti in the short term and

 

Pardoo will be reticent about dropping one of the 'big men' strikers for Bafra (till we lose a few games/injuries anyway).

 

The good thing about the current situation is that in certain postions really good players are waiting in the wings.

 

I agree changes to this team will probably only happen when we lose, it would take a brave manager to change a winning team. I think Spurs will be a step too far for one or two players who are currently holding down a first team place so Ben Arfa/Marveaux and Santon will be knocking on the door soon in any case.

 

I'd start Santon against Spurs anyway, but you're right Pardoo will be conservative about changing a 'winning team'.

 

If he doesn't change the team to introduce HBA there, i will by myself knock at his door  :lol:

 

http://www.freebetting.co.uk/images/alan-pardew-newcastle-united-manager.jpg

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There's always a little bit of fear in PL managers of playing 'too many' luxury/gifted players in the PL.

 

For now because Marv and Bafra aren't fully fit there is a kind of excuse (but they need games soon), but later there will still be the tendency of hardworking players getting preferance over purer footballers. In other words it will be hard for Marveux to shift Guti in the short term and

 

Pardoo will be reticent about dropping one of the 'big men' strikers for Bafra (till we lose a few games/injuries anyway).

 

The good thing about the current situation is that in certain postions really good players are waiting in the wings.

 

I agree changes to this team will probably only happen when we lose, it would take a brave manager to change a winning team. I think Spurs will be a step too far for one or two players who are currently holding down a first team place so Ben Arfa/Marveaux and Santon will be knocking on the door soon in any case.

 

I'd start Santon against Spurs anyway, but you're right Pardoo will be conservative about changing a 'winning team'.

 

If he doesn't change the team to introduce HBA there, i will by myself knock at his door  :lol:

 

http://www.freebetting.co.uk/images/alan-pardew-newcastle-united-manager.jpg

 

Well, he looks quite elegant compared to some others Premier league coaches...   

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There's always a little bit of fear in PL managers of playing 'too many' luxury/gifted players in the PL.

 

For now because Marv and Bafra aren't fully fit there is a kind of excuse (but they need games soon), but later there will still be the tendency of hardworking players getting preferance over purer footballers. In other words it will be hard for Marveux to shift Guti in the short term and

 

Pardoo will be reticent about dropping one of the 'big men' strikers for Bafra (till we lose a few games/injuries anyway).

 

The good thing about the current situation is that in certain postions really good players are waiting in the wings.

 

I agree changes to this team will probably only happen when we lose, it would take a brave manager to change a winning team. I think Spurs will be a step too far for one or two players who are currently holding down a first team place so Ben Arfa/Marveaux and Santon will be knocking on the door soon in any case.

 

I'd start Santon against Spurs anyway, but you're right Pardoo will be conservative about changing a 'winning team'.

 

If he doesn't change the team to introduce HBA there, i will by myself knock at his door  :lol:

 

http://www.freebetting.co.uk/images/alan-pardew-newcastle-united-manager.jpg

 

Well, he looks quite elegant compared to some others Premier league coaches...   

 

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01518/Steve_Bruce_1518861c.jpg

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There's always a little bit of fear in PL managers of playing 'too many' luxury/gifted players in the PL.

 

For now because Marv and Bafra aren't fully fit there is a kind of excuse (but they need games soon), but later there will still be the tendency of hardworking players getting preferance over purer footballers. In other words it will be hard for Marveux to shift Guti in the short term and

 

Pardoo will be reticent about dropping one of the 'big men' strikers for Bafra (till we lose a few games/injuries anyway).

 

The good thing about the current situation is that in certain postions really good players are waiting in the wings.

 

I agree changes to this team will probably only happen when we lose, it would take a brave manager to change a winning team. I think Spurs will be a step too far for one or two players who are currently holding down a first team place so Ben Arfa/Marveaux and Santon will be knocking on the door soon in any case.

 

I'd start Santon against Spurs anyway, but you're right Pardoo will be conservative about changing a 'winning team'.

 

If he doesn't change the team to introduce HBA there, i will by myself knock at his door  :lol:

 

http://www.freebetting.co.uk/images/alan-pardew-newcastle-united-manager.jpg

 

Well, he looks quite elegant compared to some others Premier league coaches...   

 

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01518/Steve_Bruce_1518861c.jpg

What's with the Panda bear hiding in his tracksuit top?

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Steve Bruce is as ugly as his team is on the pitch...

You should be happy to not have such a manager.

 

By the way, i remember before i sign in your forum, i used to read you and when Pardew was appointed to be your coach, you all said that he'll never sign Ben arfa (who was injured) and that he didn't like this type of player...

He seems to demonstrate the contrary.

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Ahhhhhhhhhh Ben arfa is right now in the stands of the Parc des Princes, watching PSG vs Lyon (big game in the Ligue 1).

I knew i should have been to the match... :(

 

Ah and Cabaye is here too ! (surely because hell be with the French squad tomorrow in Clairefontaine).

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There's always a little bit of fear in PL managers of playing 'too many' luxury/gifted players in the PL.

 

For now because Marv and Bafra aren't fully fit there is a kind of excuse (but they need games soon), but later there will still be the tendency of hardworking players getting preferance over purer footballers. In other words it will be hard for Marveux to shift Guti in the short term and

 

Pardoo will be reticent about dropping one of the 'big men' strikers for Bafra (till we lose a few games/injuries anyway).

 

The good thing about the current situation is that in certain postions really good players are waiting in the wings.

 

I agree changes to this team will probably only happen when we lose, it would take a brave manager to change a winning team. I think Spurs will be a step too far for one or two players who are currently holding down a first team place so Ben Arfa/Marveaux and Santon will be knocking on the door soon in any case.

 

I'd start Santon against Spurs anyway, but you're right Pardoo will be conservative about changing a 'winning team'.

 

If he doesn't change the team to introduce HBA there, i will by myself knock at his door  :lol:

 

http://www.freebetting.co.uk/images/alan-pardew-newcastle-united-manager.jpg

 

Well, he looks quite elegant compared to some others Premier league coaches...   

 

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01518/Steve_Bruce_1518861c.jpg

 

Wow. That's beyond ugly. Pardew is miss Universe in comparison.

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My friend who also loved Robert is a big Ben Arfa fan too & when he was home from the Army the numbers hadn't come out yet so he bought the home shirt with Ben Arfa 32 on the back I kept telling him Ben Arfa would be 10 as that's his preferred number (his initial number was 37 but he'd asked for 55!)

 

He isn't bothered like he's in Afghan/Germany and he reckons nobody will even know! :lol:

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There's always a little bit of fear in PL managers of playing 'too many' luxury/gifted players in the PL. For now because Marv and Bafra aren't fully fit there is a kind of excuse (but they need games soon), but later there will still be the tendency of hardworking players getting preferance over purer footballers. In other words it will be hard for Marveux to shift Guti in the short term and Pardoo will be reticent about dropping one of the 'big men' strikers for Bafra (till we lose a few games/injuries anyway).

 

The good thing about the current situation is that in certain postions really good players are waiting in the wings.

 

I understand what you mean but it depend what kind of football you want. When you speak about PL managers fearings, sorry but we can take Redknapp for example - I'm not even  talking about Sir Alex - I don't think he would hesitate between Marveaux and Jonas, or HBA and Best - with all my respects to Jonas and Best

Newcastle this season has all the ability to play beautiful football and everybody know that you have more chances to win if you play well, in the opponent's camp.

 

 

With all due respect hatem garrincha, I don't think you've seen much of our games to truly see what Gutierrez offers us when he's in the side. Yes, his end product is a little lacking but his defensive work, his dribbling and his ability to retain possession are indispensable at the moment.

 

From what I've seen of Marveaux, he looks like a fantastic player and I would like to see him in the side sooner rather than later. But personally Jonas is a definite starter.

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There's always a little bit of fear in PL managers of playing 'too many' luxury/gifted players in the PL. For now because Marv and Bafra aren't fully fit there is a kind of excuse (but they need games soon), but later there will still be the tendency of hardworking players getting preferance over purer footballers. In other words it will be hard for Marveux to shift Guti in the short term and Pardoo will be reticent about dropping one of the 'big men' strikers for Bafra (till we lose a few games/injuries anyway).

 

The good thing about the current situation is that in certain postions really good players are waiting in the wings.

 

I understand what you mean but it depend what kind of football you want. When you speak about PL managers fearings, sorry but we can take Redknapp for example - I'm not even  talking about Sir Alex - I don't think he would hesitate between Marveaux and Jonas, or HBA and Best - with all my respects to Jonas and Best

Newcastle this season has all the ability to play beautiful football and everybody know that you have more chances to win if you play well, in the opponent's camp.

 

 

With all due respect hatem garrincha, I don't think you've seen much of our games to truly see what Gutierrez offers us when he's in the side. Yes, his end product is a little lacking but his defensive work, his dribbling and his ability to retain possession are indispensable at the moment.

 

From what I've seen of Marveaux, he looks like a fantastic player and I would like to see him in the side sooner rather than later. But personally Jonas is a definite starter.

 

I saw a lot of your games last season and all the games since the start of season. But you all give me same arguments concerning Jonas. My answer will not change : in terms of dribbling and retaining possession, Marveaux is largely superior...

Defensive Work ? A winger should play his defensive role of course but it's definitively not another left back in my (very little) opinion.

Maybe Pardew has your.

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