Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 The game is basically immaterial to the argument. That was my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Fortunately, there are many mature and open minded posters on here, not guided by a dubious and intolerant clan spirit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Your opinions are based on a lot of conjecture about Ben Arfa's character and his behavior. It's funny that you talk about the forum being open to people who watches the game as well as the internet soopafan. Well, from where I'm sitting, it seems that you've made up your mind about Ben Arfa without actually having seen him play. That's why people jump on your opinions. If you were, say, someone who has watched him before this, then maybe your opinion on him, his style of play and his character would be more valid and the reasonable people on here would respond to you more favorably. People who have made their minds up about Ben Arfa being shit (I'm paraphrasing) have clearly a) ignored his entire career, and b) have decided that 300 minutes of football after returning from a year-long injury is enough to form a reliable opinion on his footballing ability and traits. If you think that he hasn't looked good so far, then look at his career. That should be enough to convince you that he merits a real chance and a real run in the team, preferably many matches in a row over a period of many months. I've commented on Ramsey's improvement over the past 6 months, whose recovery timeframe is one that I would expect Ben Arfa's to parallel. I would hazard a guess you dont even know my opinion on Ben Arfa. What you and others like you do is react ridiculously to any comment in the sacred Ben Arfa thread that isnt full on praise and ignore the actual opinion. My opinion is fairly simple. I have heard lots about him and he scored a cracker against Everton but has yet to "do it" as a Newcastle player. I hope it eventually all goes well for him here but until it does I think its fairly sensible to be a bit more objective about where he is at on his recovery and how / if / when the TEAM can accommodate him. This of course is at odds with those in this thread who openly worship the player and think it is only a matter of time before Pardew builds an entire team around him and he becomes the greatest player to grace a Newcastle shirt. I've been watching football long enough to know it doesnt always pan out like that. Am I unreasonable to want to continue with a forward pairing that has got us so high in the league. I think not. The conjecture I guess you refer to is things like the Chronicle and Sunday Sun stories on him possibly refusing to play in the reserves and Pardews comments that "He has no relish" to play on the wing. As far as I am concerned if they are good enough discussions for the manager and local press to have they are equally good enough for an internet football thread. As for the comments about posters responding better if Id watched him before he came to Newcastle......what can I say? Im a Newcastle fan and have virtually no other football interest outside of watching Newcastle. Did many people watch Tiote before we got him? Does that mean we cant have an opinion on him? As usual you trot out the dramatic line about people who think Ben Arfa is shit (paraphrasing you say). I cant recall anyone saying he was anything like shit at all. Ive heard people say they prefer Best or prefer Ba AT THE MINUTE, or that he should be out wide etc.....But nothing I could recognise as calling him shit. The fact that I as a Newcastle fan am quite happy at the the moment with a line up that has got us to third and unbeaten (prior to city) should not really draw the bile it does or be transformed into "Ben Arfa Hater" crap. I hope he eventually recovers fully, gets into the team when it suits the team and goes on to have a great career here, however when he next starts, has a cracker and scores a few goals, I will bet a great deal of money this last paragraph will be conveniently forgotten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Absolutely no way Best should come in for Ben Arfa now, as much as I appreciate the effort and work Best has done this year. Ben Arfa is without a doubt the most gifted attacker in our side and has to be playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Nice try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toondra Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 hey hi everyone, i m from paris and sorry, but i'm a ben arfa fan boy too why so many people love ( or hate, it's the same thing) him? coz he's magic man, how many players in this world can make you dream on a football ground? less than 5 i would say football now is so formated, maradonna would have been on the bench at marseille coz not enough "work rate" even ronaldinho, before he went to barça, was on the bench in paris .... boring football with boring players like most of you, i think best is an honest player but i'm not agree when people say that ben arfa gives the ball away more than the others he gives the ball away coz he tries to go forward last matches i vseen, best have lost the ball many times too.. i just hope ben arfa won't get injury again, and howay the lads.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Christmas Tree's display pic is making me hate Shane Ferguson. I keep assuming CT looks like a 13 year old with special needs (posting history would confirm he most probably does) and I now don't like little Fergie. You bastad, what have you done Careful what you wish for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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themanupstairs Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 hey hi everyone, i m from paris and sorry, but i'm a ben arfa fan boy too why so many people love ( or hate, it's the same thing) him? coz he's magic man, how many players in this world can make you dream on a football ground? less than 5 i would say football now is so formated, maradonna would have been on the bench at marseille coz not enough "work rate" even ronaldinho, before he went to barça, was on the bench in paris .... boring football with boring players like most of you, i think best is an honest player but i'm not agree when people say that ben arfa gives the ball away more than the others he gives the ball away coz he tries to go forward last matches i vseen, best have lost the ball many times too.. i just hope ben arfa won't get injury again, and howay the lads.. You seem sweet and polite, but Best doesn't actually lose the ball that much. It's one of the best things about his game imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toondra Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 it's true that he's impressive with some of his controls , he's physical and good in the air but between the fouls he make, the offsides and the control he misses, i msure he gives the ball away as often as ben arfa...could be interested to see the stats of the games and best is not really the kind of player who goes forward with the ball, so less risk to lose it... i mean it's easy to make simple pass backward, you don't lose it, but does it mean that you vmade a worst choice if you tries a risky pass and it doesnt' work..? chrismas tree has big ballz but the star above his head will always be the only one ben arfa... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 :frantic: http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7479/4newcastleairport.jpg Forum history man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 it's true that he's impressive with some of his controls , he's physical and good in the air but between the fouls he make, the offsides and the control he misses, i msure he gives the ball away as often as ben arfa...could be interested to see the stats of the games and best is not really the kind of player who goes forward with the ball, so less risk to lose it... i mean it's easy to make simple pass backward, you don't lose it, but does it mean that you vmade a worst choice if you tries a risky pass and it doesnt' work..? chrismas tree has big ballz but the star above his head will always be the only one ben arfa... Stunning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I wonder how many Sessegnon fans joined up to RTG? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Not enough, that's for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benarfanufc10 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I wonder how many Sessegnon fans joined up to RTG? Nothing sessegnon isn't genius I like nufc since ginola and asprilla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 :frantic: http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7479/4newcastleairport.jpg Forum history man. Page 160 onwards is solid gold. The discussion over whether it really was Newcastle Airport he was at Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wearside Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I wonder how many Sessegnon fans joined up to RTG? Nothing sessegnon isn't genius I like nufc since ginola and asprilla Shall we compare Sessegnon v Ben Arfa stats in English football? We can start by comparing goals and assists from last season. Or we can start by comparing goal and assists this season. Or we can start by combining last season's and this season's goals and assists. I'm ready when you are bonny lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 He broke his leg man you thick mackem twunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Wireside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benarfanufc10 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I wonder how many Sessegnon fans joined up to RTG? Nothing sessegnon isn't genius I like nufc since ginola and asprilla Shall we compare Sessegnon v Ben Arfa stats in English football? We can start by comparing goals and assists from last season. Or we can start by comparing goal and assists this season. Or we can start by combining last season's and this season's goals and assists. I'm ready when you are bonny lad. Sessegnon 5 goals in pl and 3 assists 26 games holder Ben arfa 1 goal in 2 games holder appointment at the end of the season Comparing the influence of the player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Wireside Don't laugh it him you maniac!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wearside Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I wonder how many Sessegnon fans joined up to RTG? Nothing sessegnon isn't genius I like nufc since ginola and asprilla Shall we compare Sessegnon v Ben Arfa stats in English football? We can start by comparing goals and assists from last season. Or we can start by comparing goal and assists this season. Or we can start by combining last season's and this season's goals and assists. I'm ready when you are bonny lad. Sessegnon 5 goals in pl and 3 assists 26 games holder Ben arfa 1 goal in 2 games holder appointment at the end of the season Comparing the influence of the player Thanks for comfirming Sessegnon is pissing all over Ben Arfa. Much appreiciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 You really are an idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I wonder how many Sessegnon fans joined up to RTG? Nothing sessegnon isn't genius I like nufc since ginola and asprilla Shall we compare Sessegnon v Ben Arfa stats in English football? We can start by comparing goals and assists from last season. Or we can start by comparing goal and assists this season. Or we can start by combining last season's and this season's goals and assists. I'm ready when you are bonny lad. He'll be firing the goals in now that's for sure. Worked a treat when this mug had Gardner v Cabaye up there in his shite wind up patter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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