Cheick Tioté (1986–2017)

[Ikon]

Going back would have been like saying, "I lose". I don’t do losing. I want to win every challenge, every tackle, anything.

 

[Mick]

Nolan has a player coming up behind him and would've been under the same pressure.

 

Coloccini had the ball facing away from his own goal and the onus was on him to deal with it or boot it into touch.  To give it to Tiote, under pressure, with his back to goal was stupid.  It didn't look like we could play it out at all to me, Bolton had about five men with a ten metre square, if that's when we should look to play short balls out of defence then I think we need to sign a couple of players from Barcelona.

 

I don't see anything wrong with playing the ball to Tiote at all and see nothing else open to Coloccini because he had Sturridge closing in on him which stopped him from playing it to Nolan who was in space.

 

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/2286/boltongoal2.jpg

 

 

[jdckelly]

It would appear..

 

Newcastle life is good for me. It is not like London - London is too busy, there are too many people.

 

..equates to 'Tiote snubs a move to Chelsea', can't see any other quote or reference to the headline.

good enough for me

take that chelsea scum!

[Colocho]

Coloccini played the ball to Tiote when he was surrounded by about three players.  The pass itself wasn't bad but the idea was terrible.  Tiote obviously has to take some blame but Colo is not blameless.

 

Coloccini gets very little blame as he made a perfectly good pass to Tiote who then tried to get the ball to Enrique but it got nowhere near him and went straight to Elmander.

 

Exactly.

[Punk77]

Still risky business from Colo. He saw that a player was closing Tiote down. And Williamson was injured. In such situations, it's much better to get the ball away, so we can reestablish the defense. But anyways, the shot should have been saved by Harper. It was a huge mistake by him.

[tmonkey]

Krul > Harper, even with the clownish moments.

[Mick]

Still risky business from Colo. He saw that a player was closing Tiote down. And Williamson was injured. In such situations, it's much better to get the ball away, so we can reestablish the defense. But anyways, the shot should have been saved by Harper. It was a huge mistake by him.

 

I like Harper but his big weakness is the kind of shot that they scored from yesterday.  I wouldn't change any of the three outfield players who could have prevented the goal as they all have more positives than negatives.  We should have been well ahead of Bolton before they equalised anyway.

[Frazzle]

Nolan has a player coming up behind him and would've been under the same pressure.

 

Coloccini had the ball facing away from his own goal and the onus was on him to deal with it or boot it into touch.  To give it to Tiote, under pressure, with his back to goal was stupid.  It didn't look like we could play it out at all to me, Bolton had about five men with a ten metre square, if that's when we should look to play short balls out of defence then I think we need to sign a couple of players from Barcelona.

 

I don't see anything wrong with playing the ball to Tiote at all and see nothing else open to Coloccini because he had Sturridge closing in on him which stopped him from playing it to Nolan who was in space.

 

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/2286/boltongoal2.jpg

 

 

 

He could have booted it away?  We aren't good enough to play it out of defence all of the time.  Countless times we've cocked up doing it.  Tiote against Blackburn for one.  This time though was more to do with Coloccini taking the wrong option.

 

Coloccini could see what was in front of him, Tiote couldn't, that's why Coloccini should have taken a better option and that's why Tiote was solely at fault for the Blackburn goal.

[oldtype]

Not just booting it away seems like an even worse decision looking at the photo.

[Guest EastEndGeordie]

Anybody read his interiew in the NOTW? Proper lovely fella.

[Tsunami]

Harper was caught with his weight on the wrong foot; the goal was down to Tiote, a top player should be able to take a ball like that and find his man - they do it all the time. Mortals like me may find it a bit tough at times but more often than not I'd fancy myself to have found Enrique.

 

Still love him but it was very poor play.

[Andy]

It's a rare error, but probably one that will reoccur at some point down the line due to the way he plays. He often drops deep looking for the ball then looks to either carry it or play it short, so it's inevitable that it will ultimately cause the loss of possession in a dangerous area occasionally. It's unfortunate that it was punished this time and against Blackburn.

[Punk77]

Not just booting it away seems like an even worse decision looking at the photo.

 

Agreed. He should have been more cynical. Bolton is all about being aggressive around the opponent's box, winning the  ball back , crossing it back in. But they're suffering much more when playing against an established defense. Williamson was down, and for that reason alone, Colo should have booted the ball away. So, both Colo and Tiote are somewhat to blame for that goal. But again, it was very weak of Harper not grabbing that shot. I was astonished when I saw the ball in the back of the net. Sturridge had almost no space to finish.

[Guest EastEndGeordie]

Not just booting it away seems like an even worse decision looking at the photo.

 

Agreed. He should have been more cynical. Bolton is all about being aggressive around the opponent's box, winning the  ball back , crossing it back in. But they're suffering much more when playing against an established defense. Williamson was down, and for that reason alone, Colo should have booted the ball away. So, both Colo and Tiote are somewhat to blame for that goal. But again, it was very weak of Harper not grabbing that shot. I was astonished when I saw the ball in the back of the net. Sturridge had almost no space to finish.

 

This. It was such a weak shot he should have gathered it easily.

[Yorkie]

I thought at the time, and i still think now, that Coloccini should have just smashed it. When there's a cluster of players, in the middle of the park, about thirty yards out, you don't fucking tap the ball in amongst it. I really like how the mentality is to 'play it out of trouble', cos it retains possession and starts the basis of a more crafted attack. However, at times, you need to just get rid of the fucker. It's becoming a bit frustrating. It's not the first time we've conceded at home cos of dilly-dallying with the ball in our defensive third.

[Guest EastEndGeordie]

I thought at the time, and i still think now, that Coloccini should have just smashed it. When there's a cluster of players, in the middle of the park, about thirty yards out, you don't f***ing tap the ball in amongst it. I really like how the mentality is to 'play it out of trouble', cos it retains possession and starts the basis of a more crafted attack. However, at times, you need to just get rid of the f***er. It's becoming a bit frustrating. It's not the first time we've conceded at home cos of dilly-dallying with the ball in our defensive third.

 

Yep, really at that range he should've booted it down the pitch not try to play it when (by the looks of things) there was the the same amount of Bolton players as NUFC one in the half.

[Heron]

http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/02/27/tiote-ignored-real-madrid-to-sign-nufc-deal-79310-28241843/

[Stu]

I thought at the time, and i still think now, that Coloccini should have just smashed it. When there's a cluster of players, in the middle of the park, about thirty yards out, you don't fucking tap the ball in amongst it. I really like how the mentality is to 'play it out of trouble', cos it retains possession and starts the basis of a more crafted attack. However, at times, you need to just get rid of the fucker. It's becoming a bit frustrating. It's not the first time we've conceded at home cos of dilly-dallying with the ball in our defensive third.

 

Aye, you would have thought we'd learnt from the Blackburn game

[Yorkie]

I thought at the time, and i still think now, that Coloccini should have just smashed it. When there's a cluster of players, in the middle of the park, about thirty yards out, you don't fucking tap the ball in amongst it. I really like how the mentality is to 'play it out of trouble', cos it retains possession and starts the basis of a more crafted attack. However, at times, you need to just get rid of the fucker. It's becoming a bit frustrating. It's not the first time we've conceded at home cos of dilly-dallying with the ball in our defensive third.

 

Aye, you would have thought we'd learnt from the Blackburn game

 

Absolutely. That's exactly what i thought as soon as it went in. Frustrating.

[JH]

I thought at the time, and i still think now, that Coloccini should have just smashed it. When there's a cluster of players, in the middle of the park, about thirty yards out, you don't f***ing tap the ball in amongst it. I really like how the mentality is to 'play it out of trouble', cos it retains possession and starts the basis of a more crafted attack. However, at times, you need to just get rid of the f***er. It's becoming a bit frustrating. It's not the first time we've conceded at home cos of dilly-dallying with the ball in our defensive third.

 

 

It's the cause of most of our 'defensive mistakes'

[Punk77]

http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/02/27/tiote-ignored-real-madrid-to-sign-nufc-deal-79310-28241843/

 

“He has an athleticism and ability with the ball which is difficult to find. You usually get one or the other,” he said.

 

That quote from Pardew really says why he's unique as a DM and so invaluable for the club.

[Andy]

I like the desire to play from the back tbh. Once you start hoofing it, it's easy to get into the habit of taking the easy route every time you have the ball at the back. I'd rather take the risk of slipping a few goals while playing decent football, personally.

[Frazzle]

I like the desire to play from the back tbh. Once you start hoofing it, it's easy to get into the habit of taking the easy route every time you have the ball at the back. I'd rather take the risk of slipping a few goals while playing decent football, personally.

 

Surely it's just best to play which ever way fits the situation.  We shouldn't be stubborn to a philosophy, yesterday was an example when the ball should've been booted away.

[Dave]

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/2286/boltongoal2.jpg

 

Fucking annoying that we conceded from there.

[Yorkie]

I like the desire to play from the back tbh. Once you start hoofing it, it's easy to get into the habit of taking the easy route every time you have the ball at the back. I'd rather take the risk of slipping a few goals while playing decent football, personally.

 

Sure, but sometimes you just need to boot it - it's as simple as that. We shouldn't cut out the mentality altogether - that'd be stripping us of one of the best parts of our football. But doing it 100% of the time will lead to some suicidal moments. Like Blackburn and Bolton at SJP this season.