Parky Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Glazers fail to pay mortgage on four shopping malls * guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 24 August 2010 23.35 BST Manchester United's owners, the Glazer family, have suffered further embarrassing financial difficulties after four more of its US shopping malls recently fell into default on their mortgages. With the interest rate charged on United's enormous "payment-in-kind debts" rising from 14.25% to 16.25% this month, the news could hardly come at a worse time. An investigation by the Guardian in conjunction with the BBC's Panorama programme and the investment analyst Andy Green in June found that of the 68 shopping malls owned by the Glazers' US-based First Allied Corporation, four had gone bust and one more had defaulted on its mortgage. An analysis of the malls' most recent financial disclosures has revealed that four more have since failed to pay their mortgages and become classified as "delinquent", with two falling into default this month. The four malls are in Houston, Texas; Denver, Colorado and two in Ohio. That means nine, or 13%, of the Glazers' malls are now "delinquent" or insolvent, and a further 29 centres, 43%, have so many units empty the rental income does not cover the mortgage payments. First Allied is the only significant business the Florida-based family runs besides Manchester United and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers NFL franchise, and the bank disclosures show it making income above the malls' running costs of only US$9m a year. These disclosures come at a particularly sensitive time considering United's own debts. The interest rate increase took effect this month, according to the most recent accounts filed by one of the Glazers' United companies. According to Red Football Joint Venture Limited, the accounts for the year to 30 June 2009 recorded that United's total bank and other borrowings had swollen to £716m, all of it derived from the Glazers' original personal borrowings to buy the club in the first place in 2005. Of that, around £500m was owed to banks and refinanced in January with the issue of bonds at an average around 8.5% interest "yield" annually – £42.5m this year. The payments in kind, originally owed to three hedge funds, had risen to £202m by 30 June last year, so at 14.25% have accrued a further £34m interest since. That interest is not paid but accumulates, so the Glazers' United companies now owe £236m to the hedge funds. The increased interest rate to 16.25% means that over the next year a further £38m will be added, swelling the total to £274m, unless a proportion of the hedge fund debt is paid off. No public United documents explain why the interest rate has increased, but it has been reported that United were hit with it as a penalty clause because their debts have risen to more than five times the basic profit they make. The club's chief executive, David Gill, has maintained that the payment-in-kind debts at these credit-card rates of interest are not the club's responsibility, but fall on the family to repay. However, it is not at all clear the Glazers have the resources from First Allied or elsewhere to meet these liabilities, and the bond document issued by United provides the right to take almost £130m out of the club. That can be used to pay towards the payment-in-kind debt if necessary. Gill and the Glazers argue the club is unaffected by these debts, by far the largest external borrowings ever owed by an English football club, and that funds are available for the manager Sir Alex Ferguson to spend. The manager has said the transfer market is over-priced and it is his own choice this summer to have signed only Chris Smalling from Fulham, Javier Hernández from Guadalajara and the deal which has stunned football, the 20 year old Portuguese striker, Bébé, for £7.4m. Yet Green – an investment analyst and United supporter who writes about the club's finances in his blog www.andersred.blogspot.com – said the latest disclosures from First Allied were a cause for further concern. "They show that the Glazer family's only significant other business is making almost no money, and certainly not generating the cash to reduce United's massive debts," he said. "The family's shopping malls are afflicted by low occupancy rates, more have fallen into default, and whatever David Gill says, there appears no doubt that Manchester United itself will be made to service these useless debts and pay huge interest payments, all money which could have been spent signing players." Neither the spokesman for Manchester United nor the Glazer family were available for comment yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Seems like a lot of their business is founded on mental levels of debt. Not the only ones to find out the credit boom doesn't last forever I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 US shopping malls struggling during deepest recession in living memory shocker. It makes no sense to keep some of the malls going because they've got so little equity tied up in them. They have £270m of equity tied up in MUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Can't wait to see them reformed, playing in the Isthmian Premier league in fucking horrible gold and green Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 US shopping malls struggling during deepest recession in living memory shocker. It makes no sense to keep some of the malls going because they've got so little equity tied up in them. They have £270m of equity tied up in MUFC. Yeah, I'd be more concerned, as a Man U fan, if the Glazer were continuing to spend money on ailing business ventures other than Man United. At least with this there's a vague hope for them that the Glazers are pooling what resources they may have into keeping Man United afloat. Can't wait to see them reformed, playing in the Isthmian Premier league in fucking horrible gold and green FC United of Manchester are doing OK. Probably get a few new fans if Man U went to shit, but I doubt it. Premier League will create a new super ruling that 'strangely' benefits Man U, they won't let that Golden Goose drop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 HA! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 They'll be fine. (Man United) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 They'll be fine. (Man United) What are you basing this little nugget on if I may ask? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 They'll be fine. (Man United) What are you basing this little nugget on if I may ask? The fact its Man U, and a blank cheque for the Premier League when it comes to global marketing and TV Contracts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 They'll be fine. (Man United) What are you basing this little nugget on if I may ask? Instinct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 They'll be fine. (Man United) What are you basing this little nugget on if I may ask? Instinct. Mmmm.. In the real world it seems they have little or no access to equity and are upto their necks/Man U in debt all over the place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Yet Green – an investment analyst and United supporter who writes about the club's finances in his blog www.andersred.blogspot.com – said the latest disclosures from First Allied were a cause for further concern. "They show that the Glazer family's only significant other business is making almost no money, and certainly not generating the cash to reduce United's massive debts," he said. "The family's shopping malls are afflicted by low occupancy rates, more have fallen into default, and whatever David Gill says, there appears no doubt that Manchester United itself will be made to service these useless debts and pay huge interest payments, all money which could have been spent signing players." Fucking arrogant Manc wanker, he thinks the Glazers should whack all profit from other businesses into MUFC. Could you imgaine what this cunt would be like if MUFC profit went & paid the wages of a load Mall cops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Yet Green – an investment analyst and United supporter who writes about the club's finances in his blog www.andersred.blogspot.com – said the latest disclosures from First Allied were a cause for further concern. "They show that the Glazer family's only significant other business is making almost no money, and certainly not generating the cash to reduce United's massive debts," he said. "The family's shopping malls are afflicted by low occupancy rates, more have fallen into default, and whatever David Gill says, there appears no doubt that Manchester United itself will be made to service these useless debts and pay huge interest payments, all money which could have been spent signing players." Fucking arrogant Manc wanker, he thinks the Glazers should whack all profit from other businesses into MUFC. Could you imgaine what this cunt would be like if MUFC profit went & paid the wages of a load Mall cops. Think it's more a case of objecting to not repaying the debt the Glazers generated when buying the club. Not that I know much about this, must admit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Yet Green – an investment analyst and United supporter who writes about the club's finances in his blog www.andersred.blogspot.com – said the latest disclosures from First Allied were a cause for further concern. "They show that the Glazer family's only significant other business is making almost no money, and certainly not generating the cash to reduce United's massive debts," he said. "The family's shopping malls are afflicted by low occupancy rates, more have fallen into default, and whatever David Gill says, there appears no doubt that Manchester United itself will be made to service these useless debts and pay huge interest payments, all money which could have been spent signing players." Fucking arrogant Manc wanker, he thinks the Glazers should whack all profit from other businesses into MUFC. Could you imgaine what this cunt would be like if MUFC profit went & paid the wages of a load Mall cops. How arrogant of him to want the Glazers to pay for the debts they created eh All he's saying is that if Manure are losing money and the Glazers other companies are all losing money then he worries about where they'll find the cash to keep the club going. The club would have been making massive profits if the Glazers hadn't lumped their debts on them and as much as I hate Manure I can totally understand their fans being worried and very pissed off at them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Yet Green – an investment analyst and United supporter who writes about the club's finances in his blog www.andersred.blogspot.com – said the latest disclosures from First Allied were a cause for further concern. "They show that the Glazer family's only significant other business is making almost no money, and certainly not generating the cash to reduce United's massive debts," he said. "The family's shopping malls are afflicted by low occupancy rates, more have fallen into default, and whatever David Gill says, there appears no doubt that Manchester United itself will be made to service these useless debts and pay huge interest payments, all money which could have been spent signing players." f***ing arrogant Manc w*****, he thinks the Glazers should whack all profit from other businesses into MUFC. Could you imgaine what this c*** would be like if MUFC profit went & paid the wages of a load Mall cops. How arrogant of him to want the Glazers to pay for the debts they created eh MUFC/Glazers have never missed a repayment yet. They have had it tough at Old Trafford since the Glazers took over. Green & Gold scarfs all round!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 But they've been repaying with further borrowing haven't they? Don't you think its reasonable to be worried about how long that can go on if their businesses continue to falter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 As much as I'd love them to crash and burn, I just can't see it happening. There'll always be some rich 'fans' or people who see it s an opportunity to own such a big name that will bail them out, plus the Premier League will bend over backwards for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 The premier league should do no such thing, it should be all teams equal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 They'll be fine. (Man United) What are you basing this little nugget on if I may ask? Instinct. Mmmm.. In the real world it seems they have little or no access to equity and are upto their necks/Man U in debt all over the place. I don't think they'd struggle to find equity partners in Man United if they absolutely needed them fwiw, I just don't think they want them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 The premier league should do no such thing, it should be all teams equal. It never has been and it never will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 The premier league should do no such thing, it should be all teams equal. It never has been and it never will be. I know but it should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Man United bring the PL masses of exposure. They'll not be allowed to go tits up - someone will come in and bail them out when need be. Something similar happened in Spain a few years ago, concerning Real Madrid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 The premier league should do no such thing, it should be all teams equal. It never has been and it never will be. I know but it should be. I know but it isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 But it should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Why should other teams sit there an allow the league to bend over backwards cos Man Uts are crippled with debt, its an unfair advantage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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