Dokko Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 BTW I hope (due the story i posted) he doesn't go in to super hero mode now effecting his game and jeopardising his fitness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 done for the first goal, not close enough and following the player too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Bystander for both goals it looked from the highlights. Didn't see it live. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 done for the first goal, not close enough and following the player too much. I don't entirely blame him, watching the replay he was caught between 2 players as Scheiderlin ran into the box late on, personally I put half of the blame on midfield failing to pick up the runner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 He should have done better for both goals today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Too deep for the second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 He's still not good enough against better opposition. He likes to sit back and invite pressure, which is against the team ethos and causes problems for other players. He's been all right since he's been back but he's not as good as he was last season. I'd rather see him be a backup permanently and have Colo and YM as the starters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 It's also noticeable that he backs off against many players because he's scared of them taking him on because he's not agile enough. I think slimming down would help a lot. He should look at a similar build to Vidic and Terry, both were strong, relatively slow players who could defend pacier players because they were agile enough to defend attackers intimately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 He's still not good enough against better opposition. He likes to sit back and invite pressure, which is against the team ethos and causes problems for other players. He's been all right since he's been back but he's not as good as he was last season. I'd rather see him be a backup permanently and have Colo and YM as the starters. Except Colo's leaving. Taylor's not perfect but he's easily good enough to start for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Thought he could have done better for both goals yesterday, but wouldn't say either of them was "his fault". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Think he had a hand in both goals, but the second was a mess due to the absence of colo IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 He's still not good enough against better opposition. He likes to sit back and invite pressure, which is against the team ethos and causes problems for other players. He's been all right since he's been back but he's not as good as he was last season. I'd rather see him be a backup permanently and have Colo and YM as the starters. Except Colo's leaving. Taylor's not perfect but he's easily good enough to start for us. If he does leave, which I'm not certain of because someone will have to stump up £6m, we'll sign someone like Douglas, who's better than Taylor anyway. Out of all the CBs playing and starting for teams in the top 7 teams that will be our competitors next year, he'd be the worst. If he slims down and regains some agility then all bets are off but this version of him isn't good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 He's still not good enough against better opposition. He likes to sit back and invite pressure, which is against the team ethos and causes problems for other players. It's not like. We are a standoff-retain shape team. Not a press high and hard side. It's often why we start so poorly from KO and HT. Closing down is not a strength. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 We close down when they're in our half,which is made harder when Taylor doesn't press their striker and push him back into our midfielders. It means the whole team has to turn and causes all sorts of problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 We close down when they're in our half,which is made harder when Taylor doesn't press their striker and push him back into our midfielders. It means the whole team has to turn and causes all sorts of problems. Often we don't. Look at their first goal I think it was. Crossed from deep, nobody near him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 It's also noticeable that he backs off against many players because he's scared of them taking him on because he's not agile enough. I think slimming down would help a lot. He should look at a similar build to Vidic and Terry, both were strong, relatively slow players who could defend pacier players because they were agile enough to defend attackers intimately. Yeah, I noticed he has a significantly bulkier upper body than last season. He was fat after coming back from his jaw injury. Pardew came in, then he worked to lose much of his weight resulting in a leaner upper body last season which coincided with the form of his life. This season has seen him build up on his upper body again, and you do wonder whether it has any effects on his agility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Taylor is more than good enough, staying fit is my only concern with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Taylor is more than good enough, staying fit is my only concern with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 For the 1st goal Colo should have came across to the man behind Taylor and Santon should have covered the guy towards back post. Taylor didn't know which one to go for so stayed in between and got caught short when ball came to him. I think Taylor should have reacted better but Colo and Santon at fault also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 He's good enough, it's more about form and fitness. A few years ago Toure and Valencia looked strong physically. Muscular. Now both look a bit too top heavy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I would like him to drop a few pounds but I guess that will come as he spends longer fit. Delicate balancing act with our CBs at the moment, because Mapou is clearly the best but we need to keep Taylor on board and in shape in case Colo leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brazilianbob Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 done for the first goal, not close enough and following the player too much. I don't entirely blame him, watching the replay he was caught between 2 players as Scheiderlin ran into the box late on, personally I put half of the blame on midfield failing to pick up the runner. Agreed. It was Tiote who failed to stay with Scheiderlin when he ran into the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 He's good enough, it's more about form and fitness. A few years ago Toure and Valencia looked strong physically. Muscular. Now both look a bit too top heavy. Aye Taylor does look quite Top heavy himself, wonder if it restricts his agility somewhat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I've added some bulk myself. My lifts at the gym have come a long way. I know i've lost a bit of agility, will look to do some yoga very soon as a result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I don't think Taylor has added lean muscle deliberately though, he just looks overweight. He's a big bloke anyway, guess it's a challenge to get in the right shape for football. I'm a similar height and build to him (square basically), and I've never reached the level of muscle that would restrict agility. Gym training just improves my football no end. I doubt excess strength training is his problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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