mrmojorisin75 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 it is, it's mackem fuel, they'll be setting themselves on fire with it taylor's a twat, but he's not a hateful racist twat, don't think it needs to go any further than that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Hey Germans, break out your Jew jokes. It's okay now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Thick as mince that lad. Why post "banter" like that? Someone said it a few pages back just a bit of banter between team mates but as a standalone post on social media it is bad taste at best, can see how some may take offence to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Release a statement that he's sorry to have offended people and offer his week's wages to a charity for racism awareness or something, and be done with it. Personally I'm more disturbed by the fact that any hint at "racism" (by which I mean distinguishing between races of human beings, not hatred based on skin colour) still elicites this type of reaction from the general public than by his actual tweet. Whilst incredibly stupid (because of going against PC standards using a public medium) and criminally unfunny, I don't think there was any intent to offend. Much ado about nothing. I don't get these constant criticisms of those taking offense tbh. Are they supposed to apply some kind of social triage to these situations and only yell about the big ones that you tell them they can care about and ignore everything else? Does reading that sentence help highlight the ludicrous nature of your criticism? That some ills are worse than others doesn't mean anyone has to keep quiet about the small ones and only shout about the large ones. Indeed it's the accumulation of these small social ills that can give rise to larger ones and they are every bit as much worth calling out when they happen. The problem about "zero tolerance" policies towards racism, is that it also makes it impossible to objectively discuss racism and if anything, adds that bit of temptation to simply be racist for the sake of being racist. The problem isn't about keeping quiet about the "small ills", the problem is that we're calling it an ill at all when there was no malicious intent whatsoever. No it doesn't. That's an inane, baseless talking point thrown out to derail conversation. I'm at a loss for words as to why people like you and unbelievable want to redefine the discussion of racism to "anything short of literal genocide isn't racism, and if you discuss it you're actually harming the anti-racist movement." You want to talk about making discussion impossible? Look in the mirror. How in the world did you read anything I wrote that way? I'm saying that painting people who are clearly non-malicious with the same brush as those who are, is completely and utterly ludicrous. Absolutely no one is doing that. Absolutely everyone is saying that Taylor is thick, not racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Lots of attention for a guy who played 35 min of football this season. Overrated because he is Geordie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Did we ever distinguish whether Ehti was a WUM or just shit? I cannot remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 You talk sense Ethii, preach! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Did we ever distinguish whether Ehti was a WUM or just shit? I cannot remember. A shit WUM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Are we going to have this discussion every time someone on here takes the piss out of Mike, using: fried chicken, watermelon, swimming, rape, etc. by the way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 what a load of fucking shit this whole thing is, it's nowt but mackem fewel Fixed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Are we going to have this discussion every time someone on here takes the piss out of Mike, using: fried chicken, watermelon, swimming, rape, etc. by the way? We should probably wonder why it happens so often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Are we going to have this discussion every time someone on here takes the p*ss out of Mike, using: fried chicken, watermelon, swimming, rape, etc. by the way? I'm tempted to agree, hypocritical to get offended by this when it's fairly common on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Are we going to have this discussion every time someone on here takes the p*ss out of Mike, using: fried chicken, watermelon, swimming, rape, etc. by the way? I'm tempted to agree, hypocritical to get offended by this when it's fairly common on here. Doesn't make either 'okay'... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Are we going to have this discussion every time someone on here takes the p*ss out of Mike, using: fried chicken, watermelon, swimming, rape, etc. by the way? I'm tempted to agree, hypocritical to get offended by this when it's fairly common on here. Doesn't make either 'okay'... Not at all. That's definitely not what I'm saying. But, they are exactly the same kind of 'banter'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Are we going to have this discussion every time someone on here takes the p*ss out of Mike, using: fried chicken, watermelon, swimming, rape, etc. by the way? I'm tempted to agree, hypocritical to get offended by this when it's fairly common on here. Well it's not like anyone's setting fire to crosses on his lawn, is it marra? Nah, just a bit of harmless bants. Everyone knows they love their fried chicken, rims and fat white women, right? Harmless bants is all. It's not like I'm plotting the systematic financial ruination of his race just pointing out some differences for comedy's sake like, nowt wrong with it. I'm allowed, after all, because I don't actively discriminate during my day to day activities. That's earned me the right to deliver less racist but still racist remarks, I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Are we going to have this discussion every time someone on here takes the p*ss out of Mike, using: fried chicken, watermelon, swimming, rape, etc. by the way? I'm tempted to agree, hypocritical to get offended by this when it's fairly common on here. Doesn't make either 'okay'... Absolutely, that was my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MKSC Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I've got plenty of ammo to fire at Mike resorting to racism. I mean, the guy bashed one out to the concept of his cousins tits. That's enough to go on for years. Plus the Liverpool shit and the awful array of sports teams he follows. All of this should be used first before lowering one's standards and playing the cheap black jokes. The fact Taylor thought this was acceptable is a problem. You should never resort to a joke about somebody's colour, race, sexuality or religion. It's completely uncalled for, even in the world of 'friendly banter'. When I was at school a couple of black friends used to rip each other all the time using racial slur's. I never found it funny. A Pakistani guy in my class used to get cheap laughs by calling other Indians/Pakistani's paki's. I never found that funny either. I've worked in an all white team before, and in a group with only one black person. Both times I pulled people up on racial 'banter'. I also resent the idea that I'm offended for other people. I'm not, I'm offended for me. I find that sort of behaviour offensive. If the other person wants to accept it then fine but that doesn't mean I have to think it is acceptable. I can accept there are differences between people genetically, mentally, physiologically, spiritually and philosophically but they don't need to be pointed out at all, and they need to be made fun of even less. They're not important and it's about time the world realised this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 What Taylor did was no where near as bad as the "all black people love grape soda and rape" shit craic that gets typed on here every other day like. It's just the fact he's so well known and using a medium of communication that fucking loads of people are going to see. Here the audience is fairly in house. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 ] The fact Taylor thought this was acceptable is a problem. You should never resort to a joke about somebody's colour, race, sexuality or religion. It's completely uncalled for, even in the world of 'friendly banter'. To be fair he didn't do that, i don't think. He posted up a picture he found on the net containing 4 black people with vague resemlences to 4 of his friends. If the picture had a ginger kid on he would have added Campbell to that, if he had a shit haircut it would have been Krul etc. EDIT: Just seen the photo again. Aye that is a bit sketchy like :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Everyone should be nice to Mike, he's a nice lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I've got plenty of ammo to fire at Mike resorting to racism. I mean, the guy bashed one out to the concept of his cousins tits. That's enough to go on for years. Plus the Liverpool shit and the awful array of sports teams he follows. All of this should be used first before lowering one's standards and playing the cheap black jokes. The fact Taylor thought this was acceptable is a problem. You should never resort to a joke about somebody's colour, race, sexuality or religion. It's completely uncalled for, even in the world of 'friendly banter'. When I was at school a couple of black friends used to rip each other all the time using racial slur's. I never found it funny. A Pakistani guy in my class used to get cheap laughs by calling other Indians/Pakistani's paki's. I never found that funny either. I've worked in an all white team before, and in a group with only one black person. Both times I pulled people up on racial 'banter'. I also resent the idea that I'm offended for other people. I'm not, I'm offended for me. I find that sort of behaviour offensive. If the other person wants to accept it then fine but that doesn't mean I have to think it is acceptable. I can accept there are differences between people genetically, mentally, physiologically, spiritually and philosophically but they don't need to be pointed out at all, and they need to be made fun of even less. They're not important and it's about time the world realised this. The manager of our footie team at uni, a British Indian lad, consistently used to go on about not wanting 'any dirty pakis on my team'. I can still remember the silence that struck the room the first time he said it. Crazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I've got plenty of ammo to fire at Mike resorting to racism. I mean, the guy bashed one out to the concept of his cousins tits. That's enough to go on for years. Plus the Liverpool shit and the awful array of sports teams he follows. All of this should be used first before lowering one's standards and playing the cheap black jokes. The fact Taylor thought this was acceptable is a problem. You should never resort to a joke about somebody's colour, race, sexuality or religion. It's completely uncalled for, even in the world of 'friendly banter'. When I was at school a couple of black friends used to rip each other all the time using racial slur's. I never found it funny. A Pakistani guy in my class used to get cheap laughs by calling other Indians/Pakistani's paki's. I never found that funny either. I've worked in an all white team before, and in a group with only one black person. Both times I pulled people up on racial 'banter'. I also resent the idea that I'm offended for other people. I'm not, I'm offended for me. I find that sort of behaviour offensive. If the other person wants to accept it then fine but that doesn't mean I have to think it is acceptable. I can accept there are differences between people genetically, mentally, physiologically, spiritually and philosophically but they don't need to be pointed out at all, and they need to be made fun of even less. They're not important and it's about time the world realised this. The manager of our footie team at uni, a British Indian lad, consistently used to go on about not wanting 'any dirty pakis on my team'. I can still remember the silence that struck the room the first time he said it. Crazy. Are you sure it was tongue in cheek? Maybe he genuinely hated Pakistanis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKSC Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Do you think he just found that picture by searching for "four black people" on google? If he isn't making a joke about black people either a) all looking the same, or at least being able to find two different unrelated black people indestinguishable or b) it being easier to see them when they smile then I don't get what the point of his tweet is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Do you think he just found that picture by searching for "four black people" on google? If he isn't making a joke about black people either a) all looking the same, or at least being able to find two different unrelated black people indestinguishable or b) it being easier to see them when they smile then I don't get what the point of his tweet is. Nah mate I found the image again and I agree with you. I only had a quick glance on Friday night and (probably because of the Vurnon one) thought that the people actually held some sort of actual resemblance to the players mentioned. Edited my post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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