Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 17th would be brilliant right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Expecting the worst from now, so yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 yehlol Seriously though, I'll wait to see what happens over the coming weeks. If Ashley makes an unexpectedly good appointment then it won't be so bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Still the same never changed and won't be regardless of today's events. If one person, manager or not swings your opinion from nailed on mid table to relegation then there was something seriously wrong with your logic in the first place. That's nonsense. We never would have gotten relegated in 08/09 if Keegan was the manager the whole season. Wouldn't have come close to be honest. We've already seen what happens when you throw the club into turmoil. The one positive, compared to the relegation season, is the players we have now have shown some fight. Although we may not see that anymore. Liverpool and Birmingham are both games we could have gotten something from. Doubt we will now. We'll be in a serious relegation battle by the end of the month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Still the same never changed and won't be regardless of today's events. If one person, manager or not swings your opinion from nailed on mid table to relegation then there was something seriously wrong with your logic in the first place. Surely sacking a manager can make the difference between 13th or 18th? Otherwise, what's the point of them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Fucking hell. 16 pages of saying no. And now I have to go back on that. TT, how can you say sacking the manager won't effect the club's placing? Like Ian says, what's the point in having one if that's the case? If we bring Martin Jol in, I'll go back to a yes tbh. But the likelihood of that is zilch, and we're going to end up with a Pardew-like character. In which case, I'm saying no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Still yes. Has been all season. Only an idiot wouldn't take survival this season. In the grand scheme of things, what's the difference between finishing anywhere between 11th and 17th? about 2.5-3m Exactly. Basically nothing. Actually it's about £5m. Which could double our transfer kitty for the next 2 to 3 years! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Pardew in = Yes Jol in = No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Still the same never changed and won't be regardless of today's events. If one person, manager or not swings your opinion from nailed on mid table to relegation then there was something seriously wrong with your logic in the first place. My thoughts exactly. Still yes. Has been all season. Only an idiot wouldn't take survival this season. In the grand scheme of things, what's the difference between finishing anywhere between 11th and 17th? about 2.5-3m Exactly. Basically nothing. Actually it's about £5m. Which could double our transfer kitty for the next 2 to 3 years! The point I was trying to make is that these days £3-5m is nothing to a football club. Will get you a couple of decent Championship players ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I would now take 17th place. The players are not going to be happy for a long while no matter who comes in and this wil probably transfer onto the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Aye, I'd take 17th now that Fat Cunt has shot his own balls off again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Still the same never changed and won't be regardless of today's events. If one person, manager or not swings your opinion from nailed on mid table to relegation then there was something seriously wrong with your logic in the first place. My thoughts exactly. So you don't think it makes a difference who the next manager is? We're destined for a certain spot in the table whether it's Jol or Pardew...Mourinho or Souness? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Still the same never changed and won't be regardless of today's events. If one person, manager or not swings your opinion from nailed on mid table to relegation then there was something seriously wrong with your logic in the first place. My thoughts exactly. So you don't think it makes a difference who the next manager is? We're destined for a certain spot in the table whether it's Jol or Pardew...Mourinho or Souness? Thank God we have this beautiful, forward-thinking viewpoint! Let's be ahead of the pack, sack our whole coaching staff! It makes no difference! IT'S ALL FATE! Come back, Kinnear. All is forgiven! Whether you were a tactical genius that worked the media perfectly, we still would've been fighting relegation! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I don't see how you could even argue that yesterday doesn't change everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Still the same never changed and won't be regardless of today's events. If one person, manager or not swings your opinion from nailed on mid table to relegation then there was something seriously wrong with your logic in the first place. My thoughts exactly. So you don't think it makes a difference who the next manager is? We're destined for a certain spot in the table whether it's Jol or Pardew...Mourinho or Souness? Thank God we have this beautiful, forward-thinking viewpoint! Let's be ahead of the pack, sack our whole coaching staff! It makes no difference! IT'S ALL FATE! Come back, Kinnear. All is forgiven! Whether you were a tactical genius that worked the media perfectly, we still would've been fighting relegation! The point is the squad has a lot of weaknesses the board are a joke and there's no money, but because Hughton was manager we were easily going to walk mid table but now he's gone were relegated without him? Its bollocks, the threat has always been there and why sensible people, Hughton or not, would have taken 17th at any time during the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 So you don't think it makes a difference who the next manager is? We're destined for a certain spot in the table whether it's Jol or Pardew...Mourinho or Souness? Although obviously I'm begging for it to be someone like Jol and not Pardew, the way I feel at the moment, I can't see light at the end of the tunnel no matter who it is. Good manager: Wants to progress with the club, wants transfer funds, doesn't want backroom staff comprised entirely of Ashley's mates, refuses to let Ashley micro-manage the team, too much self respect to stick around being shat on, leaves after 3 months and we end up in the wilderness again. Bad manager: Just happy to have the job, doesn't care about what the fans think, not enough dignity to walk away, plods on for shit result after shit result saying we're about to turn a corner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 YES! SWEET GOD YES! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Still the same never changed and won't be regardless of today's events. If one person, manager or not swings your opinion from nailed on mid table to relegation then there was something seriously wrong with your logic in the first place. My thoughts exactly. So you don't think it makes a difference who the next manager is? We're destined for a certain spot in the table whether it's Jol or Pardew...Mourinho or Souness? Thank God we have this beautiful, forward-thinking viewpoint! Let's be ahead of the pack, sack our whole coaching staff! It makes no difference! IT'S ALL FATE! Come back, Kinnear. All is forgiven! Whether you were a tactical genius that worked the media perfectly, we still would've been fighting relegation! The point is the squad has a lot of weaknesses the board are a joke and there's no money, but because Hughton was manager we were easily going to walk mid table but now he's gone were relegated without him? Its bollocks, the threat has always been there and why sensible people, Hughton or not, would have taken 17th at any time during the season. Agreed. Not sure how you can argue sacking Chris does not increase our chance of relegation though..? Unless we bring in someone miles better that the players can get excited about, they will feel betrayed and will want out asap or go straight to relegation form after the manager they respected has been ruthlessly axed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Fucking hell, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I'd take fucking 20th atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I'd take 21st so there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Hang on, that'll be next season's thread when we're in the Championship again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 I knew I could get you to take 17th eventually. Nice work Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 That's what it's taken though. The club to be ruined in one move. Fucking fuming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 It is insane that 3 days ago, everything was looking decent and we had a good chance of staying up. And now, we're as good as down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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