Jonás Gutiérrez

[Deuce]

As has been said, I would actually prefer Jonas in central midfield to Tiote at this point.

[samag]

Think two games a week is too much for him now.  would still keep him though.

[Jill]

Awful, awful, awful. Highly annoying after the spell of good games he's had.

[Guest Roger Kint]

Anyone seen the film Old Yeller? The family takes in a dog and they form a loving bond. Time passes but one day Old Yeller gets rabies. Eventually, heartbroken, they have to shoot the rabid dog.

 

 

Jonas has rabies.

 

He has footballing AIDS and not the good kind.

 

What was Pardew thinking yesterday?

[aussiemag]

What was wrong with Haidara? With a genuine left back, two of those goals may not have occurred. Jonas is simply not a

Left back and it cost us big time.

[Jill]

What was wrong with Haidara? With a genuine left back, two of those goals may not have occurred. Jonas is simply not a

Left back and it cost us big time.

 

Possibly just thought it wasn't a good match to throw Haidara into.

 

Hindsight is great, I was quite happy with the line-up before kick off, but Jonas really was woeful.

[Thespence]

You'd hope not. The lad's an awful, awful footballer but he's always been a great guy and a model pro.

 

An Argie Alan Smith then.

[Dokko]

Alan smith with a pony tail.

 

 

[ujpest doza]

Alan smith with a pony tail.

 

 

Very harsh.

 

Was poor for the first 2 goals and shouldn't have been playing left back when Haidara was on the bench but who actually played well yesterday other than perhaps Marveaux in patches.

[Deputy Dawg UK]

he was woeful yesterday ..i think Haidara was going to come on but the injury to Krul put a stop to that...

[Dr Venkman]

Sadly with Haidara not fit he's probably the best LB available. What a mess.

 

He is fit though. Pardew just chose to play Jonas instead.

[TaylorJ_01]

You'd hope not. The lad's an awful, awful footballer but he's always been a great guy and a model pro.

 

Would agree. He does whatever is asked of him, plays anywhere he's told to and tries his best - he's just not very good.

 

To be honest, we can't ask for much more from him, it's the people that are giving him games that need sorted out.

 

It makes me even more angry at folk like Shola who is a combination of utterly useless and lazy as fuck.

[Dokko]

Alan smith with a pony tail.

 

 

Very harsh.

 

Was poor for the first 2 goals and shouldn't have been playing left back when Haidara was on the bench but who actually played well yesterday other than perhaps Marveaux in patches.

 

Harsh on Smith? Possibly.

[nufc4eva]

The most bizarre thing and sums Pardew up totally is why would you play a midfielder at left back when you have a left back available.

 

Said the same about Ryan Taylor playing left back last season,

 

 

[Tiotes Witch Doctor]

The most bizarre thing and sums Pardew up totally is why would you play a midfielder at left back when you have a left back available.

 

Said the same about Ryan Taylor playing left back last season,

 

Were you complaining about it before kick off though? When I saw the lineup I would have preferred Haidara but I certainly wasn't griping about Jonas starting there too much as I could see the merit in it, hes been playing well there for a couple of games prior to this one, it also allowed a more attacking player such as Marveaux to be occupying the space Jonas would usually play and be ineffective in.

[nufc4eva]

The most bizarre thing and sums Pardew up totally is why would you play a midfielder at left back when you have a left back available.

 

Said the same about Ryan Taylor playing left back last season,

 

Were you complaining about it before kick off though? When I saw the lineup I would have preferred Haidara but I certainly wasn't griping about Jonas starting there too much as I could see the merit in it, hes been playing well there for a couple of games prior to this one, it also allowed a more attacking player such as Marveaux to be occupying the space Jonas would usually play and be ineffective in.

 

Complained as soon as seen it. I hate the bloke and hate the fact that Pardew always finds a way to include him. He is the most limited footballer in the team, where Haidara appears capable of passing the ball, defending etc, Jonas gets ball, runs in straight line, falls over / loses ball. Rinse and repeat, he is an awful footballer who has no place at this level anymore

[Dr.Spaceman]

The most bizarre thing and sums Pardew up totally is why would you play a midfielder at left back when you have a left back available.

 

Said the same about Ryan Taylor playing left back last season,

 

Were you complaining about it before kick off though? When I saw the lineup I would have preferred Haidara but I certainly wasn't griping about Jonas starting there too much as I could see the merit in it, hes been playing well there for a couple of games prior to this one, it also allowed a more attacking player such as Marveaux to be occupying the space Jonas would usually play and be ineffective in.

 

Complained as soon as seen it. I hate the bloke and hate the fact that Pardew always finds a way to include him. He is the most limited footballer in the team, where Haidara appears capable of passing the ball, defending etc, Jonas gets ball, runs in straight line, falls over / loses ball. Rinse and repeat, he is an awful footballer who has no place at this level anymore

 

That's either really pathetic or an absurd use of the English language.

[nufc4eva]

The most bizarre thing and sums Pardew up totally is why would you play a midfielder at left back when you have a left back available.

 

Said the same about Ryan Taylor playing left back last season,

 

Were you complaining about it before kick off though? When I saw the lineup I would have preferred Haidara but I certainly wasn't griping about Jonas starting there too much as I could see the merit in it, hes been playing well there for a couple of games prior to this one, it also allowed a more attacking player such as Marveaux to be occupying the space Jonas would usually play and be ineffective in.

 

Complained as soon as seen it. I hate the bloke and hate the fact that Pardew always finds a way to include him. He is the most limited footballer in the team, where Haidara appears capable of passing the ball, defending etc, Jonas gets ball, runs in straight line, falls over / loses ball. Rinse and repeat, he is an awful footballer who has no place at this level anymore

 

That's either really pathetic or an absurd use of the English language.

 

Ok, maybe should say I hate having the bloke in our team. He's a decent professional

[Deuce]

The most bizarre thing and sums Pardew up totally is why would you play a midfielder at left back when you have a left back available.

 

Said the same about Ryan Taylor playing left back last season,

 

Were you complaining about it before kick off though? When I saw the lineup I would have preferred Haidara but I certainly wasn't griping about Jonas starting there too much as I could see the merit in it, hes been playing well there for a couple of games prior to this one, it also allowed a more attacking player such as Marveaux to be occupying the space Jonas would usually play and be ineffective in.

 

Complained as soon as seen it. I hate the bloke and hate the fact that Pardew always finds a way to include him. He is the most limited footballer in the team, where Haidara appears capable of passing the ball, defending etc, Jonas gets ball, runs in straight line, falls over / loses ball. Rinse and repeat, he is an awful footballer who has no place at this level anymore

 

That's not true though. He's woefully misused.

 

I will continue to maintain that he has more composure on the ball and is a better defender than Tiote, and should be played in central midfield ahead of Tiote (though Anita should be ahead of both).

[Tiotes Witch Doctor]

The most bizarre thing and sums Pardew up totally is why would you play a midfielder at left back when you have a left back available.

 

Said the same about Ryan Taylor playing left back last season,

 

Were you complaining about it before kick off though? When I saw the lineup I would have preferred Haidara but I certainly wasn't griping about Jonas starting there too much as I could see the merit in it, hes been playing well there for a couple of games prior to this one, it also allowed a more attacking player such as Marveaux to be occupying the space Jonas would usually play and be ineffective in.

 

Complained as soon as seen it. I hate the bloke and hate the fact that Pardew always finds a way to include him. He is the most limited footballer in the team, where Haidara appears capable of passing the ball, defending etc, Jonas gets ball, runs in straight line, falls over / loses ball. Rinse and repeat, he is an awful footballer who has no place at this level anymore

 

I suppose I will have to take your word on that one but I don't think the actual starting lineup was the issue yesterday, it was the gameplan or lack thereof that fucked us over, not to mention the substitutions.

 

The main inclusion in the starting lineup that pissed me off was Tiote, what exactly has he done this season to merit a starting berth over the likes of Perch and even Anita? Hes been turboshit all this and big parts of last season.

[nufc4eva]

The most bizarre thing and sums Pardew up totally is why would you play a midfielder at left back when you have a left back available.

 

Said the same about Ryan Taylor playing left back last season,

 

Were you complaining about it before kick off though? When I saw the lineup I would have preferred Haidara but I certainly wasn't griping about Jonas starting there too much as I could see the merit in it, hes been playing well there for a couple of games prior to this one, it also allowed a more attacking player such as Marveaux to be occupying the space Jonas would usually play and be ineffective in.

 

Complained as soon as seen it. I hate the bloke and hate the fact that Pardew always finds a way to include him. He is the most limited footballer in the team, where Haidara appears capable of passing the ball, defending etc, Jonas gets ball, runs in straight line, falls over / loses ball. Rinse and repeat, he is an awful footballer who has no place at this level anymore

 

I suppose I will have to take your word on that one but I don't think the actual starting lineup was the issue yesterday, it was the gameplan or lack thereof that f***ed us over, not to mention the substitutions.

 

The main inclusion in the starting lineup that p*ssed me off was Tiote, what exactly has he done this season to merit a starting berth over the likes of Perch and even Anita? Hes been turboshit all this and big parts of last season.

 

I just don't think Jonas is a full back or winger. He has performed reasonably in a 3 man midfield before and maybe uses his strengths better there. I think if you have a Left back in the squad he should be the preferred player in that position

[pedro111]

The most bizarre thing and sums Pardew up totally is why would you play a midfielder at left back when you have a left back available.

 

Said the same about Ryan Taylor playing left back last season,

 

Were you complaining about it before kick off though? When I saw the lineup I would have preferred Haidara but I certainly wasn't griping about Jonas starting there too much as I could see the merit in it, hes been playing well there for a couple of games prior to this one, it also allowed a more attacking player such as Marveaux to be occupying the space Jonas would usually play and be ineffective in.

 

Complained as soon as seen it. I hate the bloke and hate the fact that Pardew always finds a way to include him. He is the most limited footballer in the team, where Haidara appears capable of passing the ball, defending etc, Jonas gets ball, runs in straight line, falls over / loses ball. Rinse and repeat, he is an awful footballer who has no place at this level anymore

 

That's not true though. He's woefully misused.

 

I will continue to maintain that he has more composure on the ball and is a better defender than Tiote, and should be played in central midfield ahead of Tiote (though Anita should be ahead of both).

 

Agree with this. Never had a problem with Jonas when he's been played CM. Retains possesion quite well. I dont know if its a fitness thing with him, Used to love his marauding runs down the wing (which we still see on rare occassions now) but he just seems so ineffective most of the time out there.

[colinmk]

He's been poor for quite a while now. Needs moving on this summer.

last three or four he's been good, including one mainly at left back. like i've said before, many were happy with his being at left back today.

 

 

historically mind, I'm a "he's a squad player at best" type guy.

 

Agree with this what I'll add is that he was playing very well against Fulham(2nd half he was absolutely brilliant) and if you look at the effort he has been putting in for that game and Benfica especially you'd expect him to be fucked for this game. Shouldn't have started for me but obviously he should still have done hell of a lot better.

[huss9]

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew-left-out-massadio-2596938

[durhamunigeordie]

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew-left-out-massadio-2596938

 

2 points Alan.

 

Firstly, if that's the case, don't go around declaring immediately after a game that players will definitely start the next match.

 

Secondly, don't pull the he was tired card when they guy you played ahead of him actually played about half an hour more in the match you were referring to.

 

Yes Haidara had a few weeks out injured, but he looks a fit lad and Jonas had played 3 games in the previous 10 days. Don't say you didn't want to chuck him into a big game either - you did it with Fergie against Man U.