Ketsbaia Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 To be honest, the last 2 weeks have lowered expectations to the point that a successful window IS to keep our players. A striker would be nice, but I doubt it'd be a decent standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Precisely. Such a sinking feeling. Not to be all mopey and such, but if Hughton were still here we'd be laughing at the very mention of any doubt surrounding players' futures. Now it's just like . there would probably still be the same feeling about keeping our players, there always is every window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Precisely. Such a sinking feeling. Not to be all mopey and such, but if Hughton were still here we'd be laughing at the very mention of any doubt surrounding players' futures. Now it's just like . I doubt it like. Can't see how Pardew makes it any different. It's the same owner at the end of the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I think that's very harsh on Simpson. He's not great, but I believe at 23 he has time to develop after all Leighton Baines is really starting to perform and he's 26. I'd also not rule out Xisco quite yet, but I agree the idea of quantity over quality is a little naive. However with signings like Tiote I am buoyed by the potential scouting network we have, the problem is not every player will come as ready to perform like Tiote has, some will take time and development. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Let's hope he's just lowering expectations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 It depends what kind of backup players we go for. There are 3 main types: The first type is players like R Taylor, Alan Smith, Sol Campbell - experienced but sub-standard players who are content warming the bench at a big club - Bad The second type is hungry, unproven youngsters who are happy enough warming the bench for now and getting a little bit of game-time at a big club - Good The third is players from lower leagues who are deemed good enough to make the step up but may need some time to adjust - Hit and miss Pardew has knowledge of the lower league and Ashley loves youngsters and has an eye for a bargain so my guess is that we'll be looking for type 2 and type 3 players, in which case i'd be fairly happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Sol Campbell is as sub-standard as Alan Smith now? Pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Sol Campbell is as sub-standard as Alan Smith now? Pathetic. I'm not saying they're on a par but you can hardly claim that Campbell has been decent this season. He also doesn't fall into the category of a lower league player or a hungry youngster does he? It was just an example Ronaldo, don't get your thong in a twist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 He's had one genuinely bad game and another in which he played behind Danny Guthrie. Let's not write him off completely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tall Striker Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Sol Campbell is as sub-standard as Alan Smith now? Pathetic. I'm not saying they're on a par but you can hardly claim that Campbell has been decent this season. He also doesn't fall into the category of a lower league player or a hungry youngster does he? It was just an example Ronaldo, don't get your thong in a twist You taking the piss? Barring West Brom away he's looked solid and commanding. He's exactly the type of player we need to cover for flappy arms Taylor when he drops a bollock, because he reads the game so well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Other than striker we actually don't really "need" first team players. I'd struggle to name realistic transfer targets that could significantly improve our first XI that are within our price range. "no marks to sit on the bench" is actually exactly what we lack. We need some reliable backup options about par with Routledge or S.Taylor quality-wise that can come in instead of players who have proven that they are blatantly not even good enough to sit on the bench. (Guthrie, Lovenkrands, Smith) January is a time to sign those last few role players who will help you meet your short term goals (for us, avoiding relegation.) It's not for buying big names who will instantly bring you up a notch quality-wise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Sol Campbell is as sub-standard as Alan Smith now? Pathetic. I'm not saying they're on a par but you can hardly claim that Campbell has been decent this season. He also doesn't fall into the category of a lower league player or a hungry youngster does he? It was just an example Ronaldo, don't get your thong in a twist You taking the piss? Barring West Brom away he's looked solid and commanding. He's exactly the type of player we need to cover for flappy arms Taylor when he drops a bollock, because he reads the game so well. His bad game was against Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tall Striker Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Sol Campbell is as sub-standard as Alan Smith now? Pathetic. I'm not saying they're on a par but you can hardly claim that Campbell has been decent this season. He also doesn't fall into the category of a lower league player or a hungry youngster does he? It was just an example Ronaldo, don't get your thong in a twist You taking the piss? Barring West Brom away he's looked solid and commanding. He's exactly the type of player we need to cover for flappy arms Taylor when he drops a bollock, because he reads the game so well. His bad game was against Liverpool. I don't think he was that bad against Liverpool. I thought he was poor against West Brom, where he was caught out of possession numerous times and constantly looked to hoof the ball. Unless my eyes deceived me from 30 yards away from the match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I was only 25 yards away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Ronaldo wins again. I would think that raiding the up and coming Southampton players would be a good start for our youth transfer policy. I saw on sky yesterday that Fulham and Arsenal are trying to sign a Southampton youth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2010/12/23/pardew-admits-his-squad-is-short-of-options-61634-27873473/? NEWCASTLE United will attempt to bring in two players during the January transfer window with Alan Pardew admitting the squad he has inherited is short of options in vital areas. The Journal understands United’s new manager is looking to sign a striker and a left-back, although these are likely to be loan deals to provide cover for first-choice players rather than big money replacements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tall Striker Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Ronaldo wins again. I would think that raiding the up and coming Southampton players would be a good start for our youth transfer policy. I saw on sky yesterday that Fulham and Arsenal are trying to sign a Southampton youth. Aye in the 'replying with the comment of a three year old' ratings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Loan deals as cover. Yay! I guess signing a loan deal striker to start would upset: Ranger, Shola, Bestie & Loven. Did a JFK & forgot Xisco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Unless at least one of Xisco, Best and Lovenkrands are going I can't see the point in bringing in yet another squad-level striker. If anyone we bring in is better than those then he will probably be starting by default, or at the very least competing with Shola for the second spot. Ranger will surely have to go out on loan too, or else there's even less point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tall Striker Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Unless at least one of Xisco, Best and Lovenkrands are going I can't see the point in bringing in another squad-level striker. If anyone we bring in is better than those then he will probably be starting by default. I'd add Shola into that as well. Carroll is the only striker we have who i'd say is Premier League quaility. Shola just gets the nod as he's usually seen as the least shit of all the rest, which is massively open to debate anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Ronaldo wins again. I would think that raiding the up and coming Southampton players would be a good start for our youth transfer policy. I saw on sky yesterday that Fulham and Arsenal are trying to sign a Southampton youth. Aye in the 'replying with the comment of a three year old' ratings. You're not the sharpest, are you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Unless at least one of Xisco, Best and Lovenkrands are going I can't see the point in bringing in another squad-level striker. If anyone we bring in is better than those then he will probably be starting by default. I'd add Shola into that as well. Carroll is the only striker we have who i'd say is Premier League quaility. Shola just gets the nod as he's usually seen as the least shit of all the rest, which is massively open to debate anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tall Striker Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Ronaldo wins again. I would think that raiding the up and coming Southampton players would be a good start for our youth transfer policy. I saw on sky yesterday that Fulham and Arsenal are trying to sign a Southampton youth. Aye in the 'replying with the comment of a three year old' ratings. You're not the sharpest, are you? That's putting it bluntly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 How man, stop feeding the Ronaldo Troll. You're turning him from this: http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/uk/en/contisoccerworld/themes/02_fanzone/04_stars/img/ronaldo_portraet_en,property=original.jpg to this: http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2008/07/ronaldoholidayBIG_450x474.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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