ponsaelius Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Time to get Chucho back over here. great shout. fantastic little player who would be a perfect partner for carroll. had a massive impact on cameron jerome's game last season due to his brilliant movement, good link play and a touch of spontaneity. reminds me of bellamy a bit. I agree, although I don't think he's the kid of signing we'd look at. Couple this with his past 'failure' at Birmingham and I think it's highly unlikely. I put failure in inverted commas because despite his goalscoring record he was very important for Brum last season. Did a lot of the work to make them an effective team, running the channels and linking up play. Replacing him with Zigic/playing Jerome up top on his tod has turned them into a very predictable, cumbersome team IMO. If FM is anything to go by the lad is out of contract very soon (either July or Jan I can't remember). Personally I think he'd be a good option to consider. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Time to get Chucho back over here. great shout. fantastic little player who would be a perfect partner for carroll. had a massive impact on cameron jerome's game last season due to his brilliant movement, good link play and a touch of spontaneity. reminds me of bellamy a bit. I agree, although I don't think he's the kid of signing we'd look at. Couple this with his past 'failure' at Birmingham and I think it's highly unlikely. I put failure in inverted commas because despite his goalscoring record he was very important for Brum last season. Did a lot of the work to make them an effective team, running the channels and linking up play. Replacing him with Zigic/playing Jerome up top on his tod has turned them into a very predictable, cumbersome team IMO. If FM is anything to go by the lad is out of contract very soon (either July or Jan I can't remember). Personally I think he'd be a good option to consider. Possibly. Didn't the Mexicans want a daft fee for him from Brum which is why they didn't sign him full time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Yep, couldn't justify the fee which is fair enough. But if his contract is now running down it may be possible to get him cheaper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 better to get joey and jose's contracts sorted if you ask me and save what cash we have for the saner summer market Cant see us spending much in any market - summer or winter - until Ashley leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chubby Jason Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 better to get joey and jose's contracts sorted if you ask me and save what cash we have for the saner summer market Cant see us spending much in any market - summer or winter - until Ashley leaves. They club will only regress while the fat fucker stays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 better to get joey and jose's contracts sorted if you ask me and save what cash we have for the saner summer market Cant see us spending much in any market - summer or winter - until Ashley leaves. so really what we need is someone to spend 20mill or so on keeping the place going then another 20mill or so on transfers....happy hunting with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Great goalscoring record too He scored 3 league goals while at for Birmingham. Leave him where he is at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Great goalscoring record too He scored 3 league goals while at for Birmingham. Leave him where he is at. Doesn't tell the whole story. Decent player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Great goalscoring record too He scored 3 league goals while at for Birmingham. Leave him where he is at. Doesn't tell the whole story. Decent player. Agreed. Birmingham were even worse at creating chances than they are this year. Chucho was fantastic. The reason I suggested him is because there was talk of him going on loan to Celtic! What a waste that would be. Definitely good enough for the prem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Great goalscoring record too He scored 3 league goals while at for Birmingham. Leave him where he is at. Doesn't tell the whole story. Decent player. Okay then. I saw him quite a bit when he was at Birmingham he has decent turn of pace, zero understanding of team play & is a f***ing diaster in front of goal. I can 100% see whe Big Eck hardly played him towards the end of his loan spell & did not do this deal & why no other PL steamed in afterwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Great goalscoring record too He scored 3 league goals while at for Birmingham. Leave him where he is at. Doesn't tell the whole story. Decent player. Okay then. I saw him quite a bit when he was at Birmingham he has decent turn of pace, zero understanding of team play & is a f***ing diaster in front of goal. I can 100% see whe Big Eck hardly played him towards the end of his loan spell & did not do this deal & why no other PL steamed in afterwards. Don't agree at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Great goalscoring record too He scored 3 league goals while at for Birmingham. Leave him where he is at. Doesn't tell the whole story. Decent player. Okay then. I saw him quite a bit when he was at Birmingham he has decent turn of pace, zero understanding of team play & is a f***ing diaster in front of goal. I can 100% see whe Big Eck hardly played him towards the end of his loan spell & did not do this deal & why no other PL steamed in afterwards. Don't agree at all. What that Big Eck hardly played him towards the end of his loan spell? That Birmingham did not sign him? That no other PL club steamed in & signed him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Great goalscoring record too He scored 3 league goals while at for Birmingham. Leave him where he is at. Doesn't tell the whole story. Decent player. Okay then. I saw him quite a bit when he was at Birmingham he has decent turn of pace, zero understanding of team play & is a f***ing diaster in front of goal. I can 100% see whe Big Eck hardly played him towards the end of his loan spell & did not do this deal & why no other PL steamed in afterwards. Last time I checked the Brum forums they were discussing the chance of him coming back. They really like him there and blame replacing him with Zigic as a large part of their dip this season. Personally I think he'd come good in the Prem over time and would be a decent fit for the kind of striker we are looking for. Worth noting he has a very decent record at international level. The reason Brum and other clubs were put off was the £8 million asking fee, he is worth nowhere near that. However if he was going for a couple of million now his contract is running down I think he'd be a reasonable punt. He does have the air of another Oba about him though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 A bad injury record dissuaded clubs too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 He was bit Daniel Cordone/Zaki had good couple games early season & as the slog of the PL set in his performances went down the pan. I think Oba is a better striker but he does have that aura to be a cult hero wherever he plays. Exciting player I just don't rate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 He was bit Daniel Cordone/Zaki had good couple games early season & as the slog of the PL set in his performances went down the pan. I think Oba is a better striker but he does have that aura to be a cult hero wherever he plays. Exciting player I just don't rate him. Oba or Chucho? Oba is awful now, career has basically fallen apart since leaving us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Rodallega while a different kind of player is an example of why he may be worth a go. Similar record in Mexico, similar standing internationally, similar age and took a season or so to settle in England. Think most would agree he'd be our second best striker by a distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 better to get joey and jose's contracts sorted if you ask me and save what cash we have for the saner summer market Cant see us spending much in any market - summer or winter - until Ashley leaves. so really what we need is someone to spend 20mill or so on keeping the place going then another 20mill or so on transfers....happy hunting with that. Why is the club so inefficient that it takes £20m of new capital every year just to keep it going? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Martins is a different style of player - Benitez is more about link play, great movement and creating chances for others, more like Bellamy for instance. had a massive effect on Jerome and brum fans on various forums would love to have him back due to the kind of improvements he brought to other players. the complaint "zero understanding of team play" is a puzzling one cos it's just not true. saying that his goalscoring record in mexico is great, outscored suazo, and i think with a season in the prem under his belt he'd score more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 He was bit Daniel Cordone/Zaki had good couple games early season & as the slog of the PL set in his performances went down the pan. I think Oba is a better striker but he does have that aura to be a cult hero wherever he plays. Exciting player I just don't rate him. Oba or Chucho? Oba is awful now, career has basically fallen apart since leaving us. The pair of them. I was looking at Oba wiki earlier on today. I did not think he did that well in Germany yet his move to Ruben is down as €17 million, that cant be correct? Is it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 better to get joey and jose's contracts sorted if you ask me and save what cash we have for the saner summer market Cant see us spending much in any market - summer or winter - until Ashley leaves. so really what we need is someone to spend 20mill or so on keeping the place going then another 20mill or so on transfers....happy hunting with that. Why is the club so inefficient that it takes £20m of new capital every year just to keep it going? unaffordable wages according to the accounts. hopefully now with premier money coming in and the wage bill probably going down the situation ought to be getting better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Martins is a different style of player - Benitez is more about link play, great movement and creating chances for others, more like Bellamy for instance. had a massive effect on Jerome and brum fans on various forums would love to have him back due to the kind of improvements he brought to other players. the complaint "zero understanding of team play" is a puzzling one cos it's just not true. saying that his goalscoring record in mexico is great, outscored suazo, and i think with a season in the prem under his belt he'd score more. I think he was signed as finisher but found it a bit tough at the sharp end so he had to start playing deeper. Jerome & CB looked good early doors last season but that tailed off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 He was bit Daniel Cordone/Zaki had good couple games early season & as the slog of the PL set in his performances went down the pan. I think Oba is a better striker but he does have that aura to be a cult hero wherever he plays. Exciting player I just don't rate him. Oba or Chucho? Oba is awful now, career has basically fallen apart since leaving us. The pair of them. I was looking at Oba wiki earlier on today. I did not think he did that well in Germany yet his move to Ruben is down as €17 million, that cant be correct? Is it. That seems very high but It may not be far from the truth. If I remember correctly Rubin were top 3 spenders in Europe over the summer. They bought Carlos Eduardo for around €20 million and Salvatore Bocchetti for €15 million. If that's the case then maybe they did spend that on Oba. He's definitely been a flop though, 2 goals in 12 games and both were from the spot IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 better to get joey and jose's contracts sorted if you ask me and save what cash we have for the saner summer market Cant see us spending much in any market - summer or winter - until Ashley leaves. They club will only regress while the fat f***er stays. So as of right now the club is in a worse state than when he took over? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrSundlofer Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Was thinking about this... http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12874_6666065,00.html "Inter Milan have confirmed Sunderland target Sulley Muntari has handed in a transfer request at the San Siro." http://www.africasoccernet.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/SULLEY-MUNTARI.jpg We should make an offer. He can cover all spots in midfield. Also quality. Bring him in on loan with an option to buy. Also this... If Wayne Routledge will leave on loan we need a right winger. Shaun Wright-Phillips will improve us on the right flank. Loan. http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/10_04/WrightPhillips2GET_468x360.jpg = Sulley Muntari & Shaun Wright-Phillips. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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