Thomson Mouse Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Fifa vice-president Warner attacks BBC investigation Jack Warner and David Beckham Warner has met former captain and bid ambassador David Beckham Fifa vice-president Jack Warner has made a scathing attack on the BBC Panorama programme examining the bidding to stage the 2018 World Cup. The documentary will air three days before the 2 December vote, and Warner said: it was "deliberately designed to negatively impact" on England's bid. Warner, whose vote is seen as crucial to England's hopes, claims the programme is "a personal vendetta". The BBC said the programme on 29 November is "in the public interest". Warner, a government minister in Trinidad, is president of the Concacaf federation covering North, Central American and Caribbean Association Football, and could deliver three of the 22 FIFA executive members' votes to England. He has been invited to lunch in Zurich by Prime Minister David Cameron ahead of the vote, and David Beckham met him while opening a coaching clinic in Trinidad in September. Warner, who said last week that he had still to decide which way he would vote, spoke of his dissatisfaction with the Panorama investigation in a vehement e-mail to Press Association Sport. "I am sure it's a personal vendetta. But it is sooooooooooo stupid... for it can have no effect on me personally or on anyone else in Fifa for that matter." Warner added that there was no new material in the programme and that he was not losing sleep over it. BBC Panorama responded by saying: "Panorama has a reputation for strong, independent and probing investigative journalism. The findings of the Panorama investigation into Fifa will be in the public interest." Last week England 2018 leaders branded the BBC "unpatriotic" for screening the investigation so close to the vote, fearing it will lead to a backlash from Fifa members.y Speaking in June, Warner gives his views on the bid The furore follows an undercover investigation by the Sunday Times in October in which it was alleged that Fifa members Amos Adamu and Reynald Temarii asked for money in return for voting on World Cup hosting rights. Adamu, from Nigeria, was later suspended from all footballing activity by Fifa's Ethics Committee for three years, while Tahitian Temarii received a one-year suspension. Both were also handed fines. They are now prohibited from taking part in the vote to decide who will host the 2018 and 2022 World Cup finals. England face competition from Netherlands/Belgium, Russia and Spain/Portugal for the 2018 tournament. The host of the 2022 contest will also be decided on 2 December, with Australia, Japan, Qatar, South Korea and the United States competing for the rights. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/9217976.stm Have been following the panorama vs FIFA thing for a bit and I'm glad they didn't pull the plug on the programme, it should be interesting to see a tiny fragment of the corruption that goes on. Warner is right though, the people at the top will be protected and it might harm England's bid, but is that a reason to not expose what they've found? It looks like they've got FIFA running scared a bit though with all of these threats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 If they have solid evidence, they should bring up to the authorities for investogation. Saying that it is in the "public interest to know" and screening it 3 days before the vote is just a poor excuse for cheap sensationalism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 If they have solid evidence, they should bring up to the authorities for investogation. Saying that it is in the "public interest to know" and screening it 3 days before the vote is just a poor excuse for cheap sensationalism. I'd like to think that the BBC had already thought of them being public enemy number 1 if that is the case. Nothing qrong in them screening it and then passing on the info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRL Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 But why 3 days before the vote? It's just sensationalist bullshit which the BBC constantly claim to be above. Mark Thompson is one of the biggest cunts in media and he is setting out his stall to create as much hype and controversy as possible. Whatever Blatter says, this could have an impact on whether we get the WC, or whether a fuckload of govt (ie tax funded) money gets spunked up the wall due to the vanity of Thompson. Just another example of the BBC dumbing itself down and seeking out viewing figures as opposed to genuinely wanting to uncover misdemeanours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Why would the BBC want to sabotage our bid? Warner is a fucking tool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 BBC editorially do produce some rubbish now, can't see this being any different tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Why would the BBC want to sabotage our bid? Warner is a f***ing tool. I think it's pretty obvious that by him saying they 'want' to sabotage our bid, he means that it will sabotage our bid. So watch out basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 But why 3 days before the vote? Because that's when it's a story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Why would the BBC want to sabotage our bid? Warner is a f***ing tool. I think it's pretty obvious that by him saying they 'want' to sabotage our bid, he means that it will sabotage our bid. So watch out basically. Warner means "I'm worried that this programme will reveal me to be the corrupt, sleazy bastard that I am, so I will threaten not to vote for England to try and get it taken off air." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Why would the BBC want to sabotage our bid? Warner is a f***ing tool. I think it's pretty obvious that by him saying they 'want' to sabotage our bid, he means that it will sabotage our bid. So watch out basically. Warner means "I'm worried that this programme will reveal me to be the corrupt, sleazy b****** that I am, so I will threaten not to vote for England to try and get it taken off air." Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 If they have solid evidence, they should bring up to the authorities for investogation. Saying that it is in the "public interest to know" and screening it 3 days before the vote is just a poor excuse for cheap sensationalism. The football authorities have shown previously that their preferred course of action is to just sweep it under the rug and ignore it wherever possible. If the public can see the evidence and decide for themselves if the process is corrupt, that's where the pressure comes from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Why would the BBC want to sabotage our bid? Warner is a f***ing tool. I think it's pretty obvious that by him saying they 'want' to sabotage our bid, he means that it will sabotage our bid. So watch out basically. Warner means "I'm worried that this programme will reveal me to be the corrupt, sleazy b****** that I am, so I will threaten not to vote for England to try and get it taken off air." Bingo. Didn't he try and pull some shit a year or so ago with Beckham having to talk to him or something. It's quite clear there is a whole load of corruption going, hopeful this will have some substance and really piss a few of them off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Pretty certain Panorama did a program about how corrupt Jack Warner is a few years back (and a book was published). Was lovely how all the tickets for Warner's region could only be sold via a local ticket agency (run by his brother-in-law, or something similar). Jack Warner and Blatter are as bad as each other, but no matter how much they are shown in a bad light, still come out for these kinds of things unscathed. Shambles to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphrodite Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 'But it is sooooooooooo stupid' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 why can't jack warner vanish into a black hole or something utterly despicable individual, ain't the Trinidad players from wc 06 still looking for bonuses promised to them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiecunny Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I can't believe there's a chance he might not vote for England. That man has been fellated by The FA for years. I think it is just a case of trying to get viewing figures and not concern for journalistic integrity that's got the BBC screening this when they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 I can't believe there's a chance he might not vote for England. That man has been fellated by The FA for years. I think it is just a case of trying to get viewing figures and not concern for journalistic integrity that's got the BBC screening this when they are. Why's it supposed to be reprehensible to go with a story at the moment it is topical? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 'But it is sooooooooooo stupid' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Why screen this story when it's going to be too late to effect any change in the voting procedure? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Up until a month ago, England had been enjoying a good run on the back of a positive inspection visit in the summer and a successful visit to Downing Street by Blatter. But then came the Sunday Times investigation and the spectre of Panorama. Both played into long-held Fifa fears about the British media and the bid team went into damage limitation mode. In Fifa's alternate reality, Russia's crackdown on free speech is seen as preferable to the prospect of facing the British media for eight years. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/nov/23/england-world-cup-2018-series Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Why screen this story when it's going to be too late to effect any change in the voting procedure? Jack Warner's corruption -- excuse me, alleged corruption -- has been known for some time. A Norwegian newspaper had a couple of stories on him a month ago. Google translated link. The BBC is just one of many. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mantis Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Pretty certain Panorama did a program about how corrupt Jack Warner is a few years back (and a book was published). Was lovely how all the tickets for Warner's region could only be sold via a local ticket agency (run by his brother-in-law, or something similar). Jack Warner and Blatter are as bad as each other, but no matter how much they are shown in a bad light, still come out for these kinds of things unscathed. Shambles to be honest. Sure his family had some contracts around travel for T&T team and various other bits resembling a racket. This organisation is beyond a joke but seems to do so without challenge other than by the press. Nothing can be done with them it seems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I reckon if we don't get the World Cup, the British media will go all out in taking down FIFA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlufPurdi Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 FIFA needs a good kick up the arse but so does the FA, so we're in not position to judge. Well behind the BBC if they're exposing some of these corrupt cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I reckon if we don't get the World Cup, the British media will go all out in taking down FIFA. All for it tbh. Let's get some changes going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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