Not worthy of a thread - 2018 FIFA World Cup edition

[Kaizero]

Wullie is pissing all over Dinho lad, it's starting to get embarrassing for him (Dinho) now.

[Wullie]

Also Qatar will be the worst World Cup ever, quite simply can't see how any culture and atmosphere is going to be generated in the place. It'll be like visiting Dubai, very nice to see but little culture about.

 

Yeah.... that's what some people thought about Japan/Korea.

 

sorry, but i just have to flag up the fact that you're seemingly comparing Qatar, a country that a few years back was one big sand dune, to the ancient cultures of Japan and Korea, with their rich heritages and many, many millions of people, cultural and technological accomplishments, legacies of artistic and scientific brilliance, high levels of human development, well respected civil societies, freedom of the press and so on. who the hell said Japan/Korea had no culture or atmosphere? idiotic in the extreme.

 

qatar is just a few dozen rich royals who probably live in london or paris paying off some corrupt bastards in order to stage an event that they should never have even been considered for. Japan and Korea are some of the most well respected and most well developed countries on the planet. it's kind of like comparing newcastle with sunderland...

 

 

What’s idiotic is your totally irrelevant and off the point post. Frankly, I couldn’t care less about those factors that you mentioned. Stick to football, thanks.

 

When nessy asks “how any culture and atmosphere is going to be generated in the place” I instantly thought about the atmosphere and the passion in the stadiums. This is what I was certainly referring to. I don’t know how off the pitch events held a thousand miles away is going to spoil your enjoyment of the world cup.

 

f***ing hell…. only few weeks back there was a thread saying politics and religion shouldn’t mix with football. Were you one of those people that agreed with that, by any chance?

 

 

It shouldn't, but can't see what that's got to do with what he posted.

 

Well, if you had read the thread you would notice posts from him and others referring to Qatar's lack of human rights, blah blah blah. Double standards....end of.

 

So... because their obscene human rights record is based on religious grounds, you think it should be ignored and they should be allowed to get on with it and we should all flock there and agree to hold major world events there?

 

Mohammad wept.

 

No, it is because football shouldn't mix with it. Simple as really.

 

Didn't hear the fuss over USA holding the 94 world cup, BTW. They've absued human rights abroad as well, you know. Just visit Wikileak if you want more information.

 

Maybe you should get a time machine and go back and tell them then, fuck me.

 

I don't think countries who live in the dark ages and are governed by a set of laws dreamed up by a paedophile in a cave should be allowed to host a World Cup. Same as I don't think a country like North Korea should be allowed to hold it, presumably you're all for that, or is it only religion that gets these places off the hook?

 

I'm not in any way saying Qatar should be getting a free card simply because of religion. You're simply twisting my words here. (just like you twisted my words about Qatar being a hot bed of football! )

 

If a country like Qatar is not entitled to host an event like the World Cup….. then where do we stop? Should we prevent people from going on holiday to Qatar and the Middle East as well, then? Or how about Bskyb for advertising Qatar airways? Or maybe book publishers that print holiday guides of Doha?

 

The fact is, you, probably more than anyone on here, would probably agree that religion and politics shouldn’t mix with football. But here you are being hypocritical as fuck about it, tbh. Fuck off, cat boy.

 

Do you think North Korea or Iran should be able to host the World Cup? In promoting Qatar's bid, by association FIFA are condoning their regime. I don't give a monkey's about religion, countries like that should not be chosen for holding world events until they catch up with the rest of the world and stop treating people like medieval slaves. Whether they do it because Mohammad was a headcase or because Kim Jong Il is a headcase is irrelevant.

 

Feel free to point out where I twisted your words about Qatar being a hotbed of football too. You're barmy.

 

Yeah.. last time I checked Qatar were ruled by Sharia law.

 

As for your last comment..... fuck off ... it's there. The first time you quoted me in this thread.

 

Come back when your views are not contradicting each other. A clear sign of talking utter bullshit, tbh.

 

I know they're ruled by Sharia law. What's your point? My point is that they are nutters, albeit slightly less insane than some of their close neighbours, and the reason why is irrelevant to me. I've said it about five times now and you're still not grasping it.

 

What, when you said that because we thought England's bid should have garnered more than one outside vote that = that we thought "football revolved around England"? But you think Qatar were not only worth more than one vote but worthy winners so surely football must revolve around there even moreso? You're the one making the idiotic point to have a go at England at every opportunity.

[Kaizero]

Basically, to any sane person who'd had a look through the bids, USA, Australia, Japan and Korea's bids were lightyears ahead of Qatar. The fact Qatar got it is either down to Blatters ego and Nobel Peace Prize aspirations or the FIFA voters being bought. Simples.

[ponsaelius]

I think Qatar's bid looks sound tbh, in terms of infastructure and stadiums etc. I have more faith in them putting on a show than Russia.

 

The problem with Qatar's bid are the almighty moral issues, but then again there's similar worries with Russia.

[Wullie]

Basically, to any sane person who'd had a look through the bids, USA, Australia, Japan and Korea's bids were lightyears ahead of Qatar. The fact Qatar got it is either down to Blatters ego and Nobel Peace Prize aspirations or the FIFA voters being bought. Simples.

 

There's your problem right there. Half the FIFA members were probably still in the bar when the presentations were on. Might as well have voted by postal vote a week in advance for all the attention that was paid to the actual bids.

[Thespence]

The Russian 2018 presentation: Talked about Churchill, spoke in English, two of their key speakers are residents of London/Surrey & they showed a stack pictures of Arsenal. Their plan was genius, make the presentation as English as possible to confuse the voters.

[Village Idiot]

Nah, I do have worries about Qatar. Didn't around 1 million people go to South Africa? The entire population of Qatar is 1,6m I just don't know how can they cope with that. It's just nuts.

[Thespence]

Nah, I do have worries about Qatar. Didn't around 1 million people go to South Africa? The entire population of Qatar is 1,6m I just don't know how can they cope with that. It's just nuts.

 

Thats how many the BBC sent to cover it so it must of been more than that.

[Wullie]

I think Qatar's bid looks sound tbh, in terms of infastructure and stadiums etc. I have more faith in them putting on a show than Russia.

 

The problem with Qatar's bid are the almighty moral issues, but then again there's similar worries with Russia.

 

My main problem with Qatar isn't even the moral issues, the fact that the place is so small just makes the thing farcical as far as I'm concerned.

[Wullie]

Nah, I do have worries about Qatar. Didn't around 1 million people go to South Africa? The entire population of Qatar is 1,6m I just don't know how can they cope with that. It's just nuts.

 

Thats how many the BBC send to cover it so it must of been more than that.

 

[ponsaelius]

I think Qatar's bid looks sound tbh, in terms of infastructure and stadiums etc. I have more faith in them putting on a show than Russia.

 

The problem with Qatar's bid are the almighty moral issues, but then again there's similar worries with Russia.

 

My main problem with Qatar isn't even the moral issues, the fact that the place is so small just makes the thing farcical as far as I'm concerned.

 

They seem pretty confident that they can cope, like. 

 

Infact wasn't the compact nature of the bid one of their major selling points? It does seem a bit mental that the stadiums will all be in such a small space though.

[Thespence]

Wonder if Al-Jazeera will be the host broadcaster for Doha 2022

[Dinho lad]

Wullie is pissing all over Dinho lad, it's starting to get embarrassing for him (Dinho) now.

 

You mean he is pissing all over me by contradicting himself?  Yeah right... more like internet mates sticking up for each other.

 

 

Wullie, what the fuck is your last post all about?  Where have I had a go a the england bid? show me where have I had a go at England "at every opportunity"?? Go on, ya daft shit..... prove that you're not sinking even lower by making things up. 

[ponsaelius]

They'll throw enough money at it to make it work, imo, it'll be like Disneyland meets football but they'll pull it off.

 

I just get the feeling in terms of atmosphere and culture it'll be nothing like a proper World Cup. Qatar is a sterile and artifcial place, after the shopping malls there's little else to see or do.

[Guest Slarth]

Nah, I do have worries about Qatar. Didn't around 1 million people go to South Africa? The entire population of Qatar is 1,6m I just don't know how can they cope with that. It's just nuts.

 

3.2M if I remember correctly, i'll see if I can dig up the link.

 

EDIT: 1.4M Click Here But the figure was actually down 100,00 from the previous year.

[Wullie]

They'll throw enough money at it to make it work, imo, it'll be like Disneyland meets football but they'll pull it off.

 

I just get the feeling in terms of atmosphere and culture it'll be nothing like a proper World Cup. Qatar is a sterile and artifcial place, after the shopping malls there's little else to see or do.

 

And you basically can't spend any sort of time outside because of the heat.

[ponsaelius]

They'll throw enough money at it to make it work, imo, it'll be like Disneyland meets football but they'll pull it off.

 

I just get the feeling in terms of atmosphere and culture it'll be nothing like a proper World Cup. Qatar is a sterile and artifcial place, after the shopping malls there's little else to see or do.

 

And you basically can't spend any sort of time outside because of the heat.

 

They could block out the sun or something.

[Dinho lad]

They'll throw enough money at it to make it work, imo, it'll be like Disneyland meets football but they'll pull it off.

 

I just get the feeling in terms of atmosphere and culture it'll be nothing like a proper World Cup. Qatar is a sterile and artifcial place, after the shopping malls there's little else to see or do.

 

And you basically can't spend any sort of time outside because of the heat.

 

Have you got experience of organising big events or something? Because you're certainly pretending like it.

[Wullie]

They'll throw enough money at it to make it work, imo, it'll be like Disneyland meets football but they'll pull it off.

 

I just get the feeling in terms of atmosphere and culture it'll be nothing like a proper World Cup. Qatar is a sterile and artifcial place, after the shopping malls there's little else to see or do.

 

And you basically can't spend any sort of time outside because of the heat.

 

Have you got experience of organising big events or something? Because you're certainly pretending like it.

 

I've got experience of being in 40 degree heat, you halfwit.

[ponsaelius]

It's not like you have to be an expert to ask these kind of question Dinho. They're fundamental issues with their bid.

 

I think some of the stuff they've got planned looks outstanding (the air cooled stadiums etc) but it's a massive risk in terms of other issues still (FIFA basically said so themselves).

[Wullie]

They'll throw enough money at it to make it work, imo, it'll be like Disneyland meets football but they'll pull it off.

 

I just get the feeling in terms of atmosphere and culture it'll be nothing like a proper World Cup. Qatar is a sterile and artifcial place, after the shopping malls there's little else to see or do.

 

And you basically can't spend any sort of time outside because of the heat.

 

They could block out the sun or something.

 

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[ponsaelius]

 

 

[Kaizero]

Wullie is pissing all over Dinho lad, it's starting to get embarrassing for him (Dinho) now.

 

You mean he is pissing all over me by contradicting himself?  Yeah right... more like internet mates sticking up for each other.

 

 

 

He's pissing all over you by having a fair point. I couldn't care less who made said point. He's being reasonable, you're being silly.

[Dinho lad]

It's not like you have to be an expert to ask these kind of question Dinho. They're fundamental issues with their bid.

 

I think some of the stuff they've got planned looks outstanding (the air cooled stadiums etc) but it's a massive risk in terms of other issues still (FIFA basically said so themselves).

 

and do you think FIFA would have ignored it.... do you think they didn't think of solutions to it?  Come on, they're might be corrupt..... but they know how to organise a world cup better than any of us. (Except Wolly maybe.... sorry, Wullie.)

[Wullie]

It's not like you have to be an expert to ask these kind of question Dinho. They're fundamental issues with their bid.

 

I think some of the stuff they've got planned looks outstanding (the air cooled stadiums etc) but it's a massive risk in terms of other issues still (FIFA basically said so themselves).

 

and do you think FIFA would have ignored it.... do you think they didn't think of solutions to it?  Come on, they're might be corrupt..... but they know how to organise a world cup better than any of us. (Except Wolly maybe.... sorry, Wullie.)

 

So why did the official FIFA report rate Qatar's technical bid (i.e. can they cope?) as worse than everyone else's?