Frazzle Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Successful kick will take into account whether the striker ends up with the ball, yeah? Stoke are gonna have a better percentage because their strikers are better equipped to win/bring down high balls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Successful kick will take into account whether the striker ends up with the ball, yeah? Stoke are gonna have a better percentage because their strikers are better equipped to win/bring down high balls. Indeed. Also, even the passing statistics of the defenders are open to interpretation, because if they played more short passes they might succeed more. They are probably not bad passers if they had more confidence, instructions and open targets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Successful kick will take into account whether the striker ends up with the ball, yeah? Stoke are gonna have a better percentage because their strikers are better equipped to win/bring down high balls. it makes sense if we had Best in the team, he seems to be the only man in our attack in the entire squad that can bring a ball down and keep it. Ba is not that type of player despite his height and build, and he's definitely not a number 10 which pardew seems to want him to play as when we got 2 forwards in the line up, it didnt work when Ba paired with shola, doesnt work when he gets paired with Cisse. Ba is a poacher and is exactly the same mould as Cisse, one man up top with HBA in behind is the way to go, or one man up top with 2 wide players beside him one on each side, (4-3-3) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Successful kick will take into account whether the striker ends up with the ball, yeah? Stoke are gonna have a better percentage because their strikers are better equipped to win/bring down high balls. Indeed. Also, even the passing statistics of the defenders are open to interpretation, because if they played more short passes they might succeed more. They are probably not bad passers if they had more confidence, instructions and open targets. It still shows we are giving up possession too often though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Successful kick will take into account whether the striker ends up with the ball, yeah? Stoke are gonna have a better percentage because their strikers are better equipped to win/bring down high balls. Indeed. Also, even the passing statistics of the defenders are open to interpretation, because if they played more short passes they might succeed more. They are probably not bad passers if they had more confidence, instructions and open targets. It still shows we are giving up possession too often though. Oh yeah, 'course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deadmau5 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 “I think our fans will be disappointed, and what we need is a pick-me-up now. “We need to get a win – we’re well aware of that. “No-one needs to tell us. “We’ve got Norwich at home, and it looks like a great opportunity.” But Pardew is acutely aware that nothing is a given in the Premier League. Indeed, even a 2-0 cushion against relegation-haunted Wolverhampton Wanderers could not bag a victory two weeks ago, while the last home game against Sunderland turned into a dogfight. Games against Swansea City and West Brom this season on Tyneside also only yielded a point, underlining the toughness of the top flight these days. But even after defeat at Arsenal, Pardew is confident his side will eventually get their just rewards. Pardew said: “We’ll have to work like we did on Monday night if we’re going to get it. “We’ll be under a lot of pressure. Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/03/14/alan-pardew-nufc-need-a-win-to-pick-us-up-now-72703-30528233/#ixzz1p6be691c [/Quote] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Sounds really confident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Lost his bottle perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Lost his bottle perhaps? Wish he would just think "fuck it" and take the shackles off altogether. He did a great job to get us so high up earlier this season with a pragmatic, hard-working approach, but he's in severe danger of undermining everything if things keep going as they are. We can certainly go back to the more cautious selections/tactics where necessary, or if it backfires spectacularly, but sometimes you just need to stick your best players on the park in their correct positions and say "have a fucking go at them lads". Don't abandon the basics altogether, of course, but due to the nature of our support - particularly at home - if we were to go this way I think he'd certainly win back/win over a lot of people who are starting to lose faith in him/have never had faith in him. It's not always about simply working harder than the opposition, you need to get your better players on the ball and involved in the game in the right areas. We keep showing glimpses, but there hasn't been a game for a good while now where we can honestly say we've "controlled it" and looked like the "big team". I might be wrong but I can't remember Demba having a chance from open play in the last two games, for instance. Get the ball down from the 'keeper, spread the centre-halves and push the fullbacks on, move it sharply and get some fucking options for the man in possession. We are well capable of doing it if the leash is slackened a bit more and the lads are allowed to/able to play without as much fear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Lost his bottle perhaps? Did he ever have one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 He's a cock. I can see most Newcastlefans in a few weeks/months/years time when we all think to ourselves i can't believe how bad this guy really was as our manager with the players he had. What a wasted opportunity it was to kick on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Lost his bottle perhaps? Wish he would just think "f*** it" and take the shackles off altogether. He did a great job to get us so high up earlier this season with a pragmatic, hard-working approach, but he's in severe danger of undermining everything if things keep going as they are. We can certainly go back to the more cautious selections/tactics where necessary, or if it backfires spectacularly, but sometimes you just need to stick your best players on the park in their correct positions and say "have a f***ing go at them lads". Don't abandon the basics altogether, of course, but due to the nature of our support - particularly at home - if we were to go this way I think he'd certainly win back/win over a lot of people who are starting to lose faith in him/have never had faith in him. It's not always about simply working harder than the opposition, you need to get your better players on the ball and involved in the game in the right areas. We keep showing glimpses, but there hasn't been a game for a good while now where we can honestly say we've "controlled it" and looked like the "big team". I might be wrong but I can't remember Demba having a chance from open play in the last two games, for instance. Get the ball down from the 'keeper, spread the centre-halves and push the fullbacks on, move it sharply and get some f***ing options for the man in possession. We are well capable of doing it if the leash is slackened a bit more and the lads are allowed to/able to play without as much fear. That's right, players respond to a feeling of freedom on the pitch, look at tottenham. You can teach players all the discipline you like and it can make the team hard to beat but all it does in the long-term is make them afraid to express themselves and break the rules, do the unexpected. We just look clueless on the ball at times because half the time we're looking backwards not forwards. Hatem breaks the rule and he's only just gotten into the team properly; imagine if Sammy hadn't got an injury - see you later Hatem, we need hard workers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 He's a cock. I can see most Newcastlefans in a few weeks/months/years time when we all think to ourselves i can't believe how bad this guy really was as our manager with the players he had. What a wasted opportunity it was to kick on. I wouldnt go that far, he's done a good job over the course of the season so far (obviously it's still to be judged where we finish) but for months now i've had a nagging doubt that we could do better. I keep saying it but next season really is crunch time for Pardew if we improve the squad over the summer as much as we did last year. If he keeps on with this defend first mentality he's gonna make us and himself look pretty stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I really don't think we'll be doing this well results wise next year. Just feels like we're as high as we are due to luck rather than design. With the players we have in our squad our attacking play should have more coherence than it does. At the minute we don't look like we know how to attack teams other than lump the ball forward. It wasn't that way at the beginning of the season (when a lot of the new comers were still fresh to our training ideas probably). I fear things have turned and that we'll be on a downward slope from now on with Pardew. I just don't see any attacking promise from our team these days and our defence can't cope with the constant pressure either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Man, you would think we were 20th in the league FFS. Give the lads some credit for being high up the league, two thirds of the season has gone, the league table isn't an accident. And to start to write off next season, jesus, I don't know where to start with that one. We are going through a bad patch compared to earlier in the season and the form/confidence of the team isn't good at the moment. Pardew is more conservative than some of us would like but we are fans and he's a professional manager who is judged on results. There's a lot of air between those two viewpoints. If we pick up a decent win against Norwich we could turn things around. Things in football go in streaks and they change very quickly. You can always identify improvements and potential within any team, no matter who the manager is. It's only because we've achieved something great so far that we even have the luxury of worrying about the style of football. Just think the whinging is way out of proportion with the problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 “I think our fans will be disappointed, and what we need is a pick-me-up now. “We need to get a win – we’re well aware of that. “No-one needs to tell us. “We’ve got Norwich at home, and it looks like a great opportunity.” But Pardew is acutely aware that nothing is a given in the Premier League. Indeed, even a 2-0 cushion against relegation-haunted Wolverhampton Wanderers could not bag a victory two weeks ago, while the last home game against Sunderland turned into a dogfight. Games against Swansea City and West Brom this season on Tyneside also only yielded a point, underlining the toughness of the top flight these days. But even after defeat at Arsenal, Pardew is confident his side will eventually get their just rewards. Pardew said: “We’ll have to work like we did on Monday night if we’re going to get it. “We’ll be under a lot of pressure. Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/03/14/alan-pardew-nufc-need-a-win-to-pick-us-up-now-72703-30528233/#ixzz1p6be691c [/Quote] Centre of his footballing world, the moron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 There aren't many keepers who can kick it long and accurate as far as I know. Vorm has the highest pass completion rate simply because he takes the short pass more often than other keepers, and that's obviously down to their style of play. Frankly I'd rather he passed it out to Williamson than to kick it long - it worked pretty well when he did it in the Arsenal game. Looking at the post I was a bit too critical on Krul himself. It is very much about the type of passing you play. However, the Stoke keepers who play a lot of long balls still manage to kick at over 52%. The problem we've got (which the second bit of my post eluded to) is that Williamson and Simpson are actually very poor passers of the ball. Williamson on Monday was an anamoly (87% pass sucess). His season average is 76.1% and Simpson's is 76.3%. This stops us from playing a short passing game as teams are simply going to press harder on Simpson and Williamson to push for the mistake Statistics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 How many mangers say their team should work hard or has to work hard to win? Around all of them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 How many mangers say their team should work hard or has to work hard to win? Around all of them? But i would have thought playing well was more important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andrew Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 We consistently bend over backwards to stop teams and "contain". We hear the quotes abou thaving to chase shadows and fill up the prozone kilometer chart, Pardew knows very very little about actual football. He likes to think of himself as a 'tactician' and tries to come across as some kind of Mourinho with his quotes about chess and poker and so on. Sorry for rambling a bit Just starting to get on me nerves like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 How many mangers say their team should work hard or has to work hard to win? Around all of them? But i would have thought playing well was more important. Aye, but what I'm saying is it's facile to pick out that one quote and use it to slate Pardew. I bet if you went through the interviews with managers this season about 80% of them would say the same thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Criticism is justified at the moment but still way out of proportion. The plus points have still hugely outweighed the negatives this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 How many mangers say their team should work hard or has to work hard to win? Around all of them? But i would have thought playing well was more important. Aye, but what I'm saying is it's facile to pick out that one quote and use it to slate Pardew. I bet if you went through the interviews with managers this season about 80% of them would say the same thing. I disagree, i dont think it is as important to most, assuming importance over all else. Bar Alex Mcleish that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 “We’ve got Norwich at home, and it looks like a great opportunity.” http://static.tumblr.com/rxzw6og/6Yylyrzph/you_dont_say.png Pardew said: “We’ll have to work like we did on Monday night if we’re going to get it. http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/jpg/me-gusta-not-sure-if-gusta.jpg Getting boring as f*** in interviews, and in stead of taking some self criticism, he just brushes it under the carpet. [/Not just these quotes lol] Watch out Norwich! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 May as well get behind him, Llambias was saying only last week that he is in it for the long haul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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