midds Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Don't think for a second that Pardew particularly wanted to play Coloccini in the middle of the park but he decide that it was the 'least shit' option given the players he had available. Coloccini is a good player and is more than capable of doing a decent job in there but it didn't work out. Can't be slagged for that surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Don't think for a second that Pardew particularly wanted to play Coloccini in the middle of the park but he decide that it was the 'least s***' option given the players he had available. Coloccini is a good player and is more than capable of doing a decent job in there but it didn't work out. Can't be slagged for that surely? If he was sure Enrique would be 100% i think he would have went Ferguson LW with Barton inside, can see why he didnt want to gamble plaing both though and like you say Colo is capable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 And Barton in the middle would have been a worry. we can all see why he tried to keep him out wide? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 And Barton in the middle would have been a worry. we can all see why he tried to keep him out wide? True but clearly we were struggling hence disrupting the back 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 And Barton in the middle would have been a worry. we can all see why he tried to keep him out wide? True but clearly we were struggling hence disrupting the back 4 Exactamundo. The Stoke abberation was a worry for me, but he's in the clear villa wise for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Is anyone else a bit worried with some of his team selections of late? S.taylor 3 games he's shoehorned him or Campbell in for no reason and 3 defeats to opposition that have been equivilent standard to us this season is no coincidence. He can't learn quickly enough to stop dicking about with the back 4 IMO. I can sort of understand him putting S. Taylor in for Coloccini when Colo moved to midfield, simply cause there was no one else available. But as you say, hopefully it never happens again. I understand his reasoning too but for me, and I know I've said this f*** loads, but you just don't change a settled back four. More or less every team thats been successful has had a settled back 4 and I know we're only relatively successful this season but a settled back four is a large back of it. I agree with you. It's my number one rule for team selection, keeping a good back four settled. I'd have played Ferguson Barton Guthrie Jonas and kept the back four settled. Oh well. Natural positioning & form > experience at all times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Is anyone else a bit worried with some of his team selections of late? S.taylor 3 games he's shoehorned him or Campbell in for no reason and 3 defeats to opposition that have been equivilent standard to us this season is no coincidence. He can't learn quickly enough to stop dicking about with the back 4 IMO. I can sort of understand him putting S. Taylor in for Coloccini when Colo moved to midfield, simply cause there was no one else available. But as you say, hopefully it never happens again. I understand his reasoning too but for me, and I know I've said this f*** loads, but you just don't change a settled back four. More or less every team thats been successful has had a settled back 4 and I know we're only relatively successful this season but a settled back four is a large back of it. I agree with you. It's my number one rule for team selection, keeping a good back four settled. I'd have played Ferguson Barton Guthrie Jonas and kept the back four settled. Oh well. Natural positioning & form > experience at all times. We'd have lost 1-0 with that midfield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Oh well. Natural positioning & form > experience at all times. I agree, but 90% of professional football managers seem to think the opposite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Is anyone else a bit worried with some of his team selections of late? S.taylor 3 games he's shoehorned him or Campbell in for no reason and 3 defeats to opposition that have been equivilent standard to us this season is no coincidence. He can't learn quickly enough to stop dicking about with the back 4 IMO. I can sort of understand him putting S. Taylor in for Coloccini when Colo moved to midfield, simply cause there was no one else available. But as you say, hopefully it never happens again. I understand his reasoning too but for me, and I know I've said this f*** loads, but you just don't change a settled back four. More or less every team thats been successful has had a settled back 4 and I know we're only relatively successful this season but a settled back four is a large back of it. I agree with you. It's my number one rule for team selection, keeping a good back four settled. I'd have played Ferguson Barton Guthrie Jonas and kept the back four settled. Oh well. Natural positioning & form > experience at all times. You guys have obviously not played Football Manager regularly. If you did, you'd know that even reloading games to try out different formations and tactics sometimes don't change the result. I've reloaded 19 times and no matter what formation I try still can't beat f***ing Chelsea! The point is nobody know what would have happened if we tried different formation or kept Colo in defence for a 'weaker' midfield, we could have won, drawn or even lost with a bigger margin. When evaluating tactics, the relevant question is not was he right, but was that a formation that could have worked? (i.e. can you see a logic behind it?) Given our paper thin squad, Pardew tried a formation that he thought could work and it just didn't work out, that was it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 a lot of people here were crying for Colo to play as defensive midfielder before Tiote arrived. Anyway it's a failed experiment but I wouldn't blame Pardew for trying for ONCE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I still can't believe Alan fucking Pardew is our manager, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Oh well. Natural positioning & form > experience at all times. I agree, but 90% of professional football managers seem to think the opposite. I'm sure SBR mentioned how on the continent players were more adaptable to fit systems for certain games. In fact he used Aaron Hughes as a man-marking midfielder a few times. I think some players use the fact they are being played out of position as an excuse sometimes. Shane Ferguson has shown a great attitude when he's been asked to play either in defence or midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Does anyone ever look at him and wonder how the hell Alan Pardew is our manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Does anyone ever look at him and wonder how the hell Alan Pardew is our manager? Tbh he's a well dressed and manicured individual, highly stylish. In looks alone, he certainly trumps Big Sams pink scarf chic or even (shudder) Keegan's painfully 90s chino and turtle neck combos. Kudos to Hughton though- by his latter months his suit and jumper combo was class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Does anyone ever look at him and wonder how the hell Alan Pardew is our manager? Tbh he's a well dressed and manicured individual, highly stylish. In looks alone, he certainly trumps Big Sams pink scarf chic or even (shudder) Keegan's painfully 90s chino and turtle neck combos. Kudos to Hughton though- by his latter months his suit and jumper combo was class. He looked like such a Victorian dude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I think you need a few history lessons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Sometimes my brain still doesn't acknowledge that he exists. When I think of who runs our squad Kevin Nolan's face just pops into my head Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Does anyone ever look at him and wonder how the hell Alan Pardew is our manager? Every time I see him it's the first thing that comes to mind. How the fuck is Alan Pardew the manager of Newcastle United? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Does anyone ever look at him and wonder how the hell Alan Pardew is our manager? Every time I see him it's the first thing that comes to mind. How the fuck is Alan Pardew the manager of Newcastle United? As opposed to the world class managers we had before him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Does anyone ever look at him and wonder how the hell Alan Pardew is our manager? Every time I see him it's the first thing that comes to mind. How the fuck is Alan Pardew the manager of Newcastle United? As opposed to the world class managers we had before him. How did I know that you would be ready, waiting to say something like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Does anyone ever look at him and wonder how the hell Alan Pardew is our manager? Every time I see him it's the first thing that comes to mind. How the fuck is Alan Pardew the manager of Newcastle United? As opposed to the world class managers we had before him. How did I know that you would be ready, waiting to say something like that. I don't know! It's a valid point though isn't it? Kinnear, Keegan and Hughton aren't exactly hard acts to follow. (I love KK BTW) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Does anyone ever look at him and wonder how the hell Alan Pardew is our manager? Every time I see him it's the first thing that comes to mind. How the fuck is Alan Pardew the manager of Newcastle United? As opposed to the world class managers we had before him. How did I know that you would be ready, waiting to say something like that. I don't know! It's a valid point though isn't it? Kinnear, Keegan and Hughton aren't exactly hard acts to follow. (I love KK BTW) Kinnear was a ridiculous appointment. Hughton, well, everyone's got to start somewhere tbh. I'd say Pardew is on a similar level to Roeder and Allardyce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Here's a full list of the world-class managers that have worked at NUFC in my lifetime: 1. Sir Bobby Robson 2. Er... 3. That's it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Shit is about to go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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