West Ham to get Olympic Stadium

[Guest firetotheworks]

Part of me would like spurs to get it, just to piss off sebastian coe.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I get more annoyed with this the more I think about it, the negative effect on Leyton Orient is also a nightmare.

 

I basically just don't want to see Tottenham leave Tottenham, it's everything that's wrong with football that they're even considering it.

[Guest Bateman]

hey gents, west ham fan here. 

 

So much spin and bullsh*t on all sides here, I think west ham should win it as its an legacy for the games, Essex will play cricket there, live nation concerts etc etc. 

 

Spurs have seen a way to save some cash and move areas.  Disgraceful if they win, no idea where all these sightlines views are coming from as neither bid packs have been released yet.

 

Anyway only came on here to see if you where linked with any one decent, suprised there was even a thread on this! Westham appear to be saving time in getting new players in and just taking ones that fail the medical, (Demba Ba) at least saves time in training them to get injured.  want Kieran Dyer back?

 

[McCormick]

 

want Kieran Dyer back?

 

 

Depends... How much are you going to give us?

[Crumpy Gunt]

http://www.leytonorient.com/page/NewsDetail/0,,10439~2273878,00.html

 

Maybe the reason the decision has been indefinitely put back.

[JH]

What are they moaning about exactly? It just seems like a meaningless rant.

[Guest neesy111]

What are they moaning about exactly? It just seems like a meaningless rant.

 

If a team moves into the area in which Orient are based, then it could impact on attendances.  The rules in the Premier League and Football League say no team can move into an area which would impact another teams attendances.

 

Spurs should not be allowed to move as it would put 3 teams within walking distance of each other.

[Crumpy Gunt]

What are they moaning about exactly? It just seems like a meaningless rant.

 

I think they are opposed to the floating supporter pissing off to support either Spurs or WHU when in fact its against the rules for them to move onto the patch of another member Club. I can see there point but dirty money will win the day.

[JH]

Cheers

[colinmk]

Would be insane of Spurs to leave the area they are from and surely the supporters are going nuts about that? Not sure about the running track issue but every time I have been to Hampden it has been a really good atmosphere and there is a running track. Guess it is different for a team playing week in week out though.

[Guest dover]

Ground share, must be, keep all the over rated gobshites in one place, give harry the chance to financially criple two clubs at once.

 

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

BTW, stupid that they didn't know what t do with the stadium when it was initially proposed.

[Martin Lol]

Would be insane of Spurs to leave the area they are from and surely the supporters are going nuts about that? Not sure about the running track issue but every time I have been to Hampden it has been a really good atmosphere and there is a running track. Guess it is different for a team playing week in week out though.

 

Definitely would be if Wham are in the Championship and they're at home to a team like say Coventry City.   15000 if you're lucky.

 

 

The decision to postpone the decision to consider the bids more isn't really surprising, the whole thing is a shambles.  The Olympic stadium was built with absolutely no thought for its possible usage after the Olympics, Wham fans sitting at least 45m from the pitch watching Championship football, Spurs contemplating moving to East London due to the absurd demands of Haringey Coucil, English Heritage and TFL (Transport for London).  

 

With a bit of luck the Olympic Park Legacy Company will realise that this has been a folly of massive proportions and revert to the original idea of scaling it down to a 25000 seater athletics stadium.  The Athletics Federation wanted a National Athletics stadium, let them have it.  And let them pay for the upkeep of it.

[Tooj]

I can't wait for the whole fiasco to be over, I'm sick of hearing about it.

[colinmk]

Would be insane of Spurs to leave the area they are from and surely the supporters are going nuts about that? Not sure about the running track issue but every time I have been to Hampden it has been a really good atmosphere and there is a running track. Guess it is different for a team playing week in week out though.

 

Definitely would be if Wham are in the Championship and they're at home to a team like say Coventry City.  15000 if you're lucky.

 

 

The decision to postpone the decision to consider the bids more isn't really surprising, the whole thing is a shambles.  The Olympic stadium was built with absolutely no thought for its possible usage after the Olympics, Wham fans sitting at least 45m from the pitch watching Championship football, Spurs contemplating moving to East London due to the absurd demands of Haringey Coucil, English Heritage and TFL (Transport for London). 

 

With a bit of luck the Olympic Park Legacy Company will realise that this has been a folly of massive proportions and revert to the original idea of scaling it down to a 25000 seater athletics stadium.  The Athletics Federation wanted a National Athletics stadium, let them have it.  And let them pay for the upkeep of it.

 

Sounds like sense. From what they are saying it just doesn't really suit West Ham or Spurs.

[Disco]

I can't wait for the whole fiasco to be over, I'm sick of hearing about it.

 

Hear hear.

[Village Idiot]

Athletic tracks are a big buzzkill. I used to go from time to time to our Olympic Stadium to watch Espanyol play lose and the atmosphere was awful, even the nights all of their five fans showed up. They are much better off in their current place.

[Martin Lol]

Would be insane of Spurs to leave the area they are from and surely the supporters are going nuts about that? Not sure about the running track issue but every time I have been to Hampden it has been a really good atmosphere and there is a running track. Guess it is different for a team playing week in week out though.

 

Definitely would be if Wham are in the Championship and they're at home to a team like say Coventry City.  15000 if you're lucky.

 

 

The decision to postpone the decision to consider the bids more isn't really surprising, the whole thing is a shambles.  The Olympic stadium was built with absolutely no thought for its possible usage after the Olympics, Wham fans sitting at least 45m from the pitch watching Championship football, Spurs contemplating moving to East London due to the absurd demands of Haringey Coucil, English Heritage and TFL (Transport for London). 

 

With a bit of luck the Olympic Park Legacy Company will realise that this has been a folly of massive proportions and revert to the original idea of scaling it down to a 25000 seater athletics stadium.  The Athletics Federation wanted a National Athletics stadium, let them have it.  And let them pay for the upkeep of it.

 

Sounds like sense. From what they are saying it just doesn't really suit West Ham or Spurs.

 

West Ham seem to be adopting a 'we'll make do with it as it is' policy while Spurs will build their new stadium on the Olympic Stadium site because all the obstacles that have been thrown up has now jacked the cost up by around £200m.  Levy wants the new stadium, just not too bothered where in London it gets built.

[Village Idiot]

SPURS STADIUM BID 'IS BEST FOR ATHLETICS'

By Duncan Bech, Press Association Sport

 

Tottenham executive director Donna Cullen insists the club's proposal to take over the Olympic Stadium will provide athletics with a superior legacy to that pledged by London 2012.

 

Lord Coe has highlighted the importance of honouring the promise made by the London 2012 bid team to the International Olympic Committee in Singapore in 2005 that the arena would remain multi-sport.

 

Coe, the London 2012 chairman, declared on Sunday that Britain's international reputation would be "trashed" if an athletics track was not retained at the site. A decision on the preferred bidder, due to be taken by the Olympic Park Legacy Company (OPLC) on Friday, has now been postponed indefinitely.

 

Tottenham intend rebuilding the ground as a football-only venue while redeveloping the athletics stadium at Crystal Palace in south London instead.

 

West Ham want to create a 60,000-capacity facility for football, athletics, concerts and community use.

 

Cullen rejects claims that by selecting Tottenham's bid, the OPLC will be reneging on the legacy pledge by stressing the club is offering a more desirable alternative.

 

"The original promise of legacy that Lord Coe has been very vocal about can't be delivered," Cullen said.

 

"It was taken to market, tested and no tenant could be found.

 

"The promise of an athletics stadium for 25,000 can't take place as originally promised.

 

"The original promise provided for demolition of two-thirds of the stadium, which is exactly what we are looking to do.

 

"The original promise for a 25,000-capacity, dedicated facility for athletics we are proposing to deliver at Crystal Palace.

 

"We'd much rather see two successful stadiums, each dedicated to their sports, rather than an unsustainable compromise in one stadium.

 

"That's sustainable, that leaves a legacy and that avoids a white elephant.

 

"The athletics track itself is not sustainable in the long term and we'd be doing a disservice to the legacy promise to try and make it work there, therefore we're suggesting Crystal Palace.

 

"In terms of athletics, to only have access 20 days per year (as provided in West Ham's bid) we don't think is a wide enough legacy.

 

"We feel that what we are offering is better than the promise made in Singapore. The only difference is the location of the athletics track."

 

In response to Coe's suggestion that Britain's reputation in the corridors of world sport was at stake, Cullen replied: "Maybe the best way to judge how we deal with sport is getting the best solution for sports and community participation in sport

 

"It's better to be judged by ensuring what you're getting out of it is long-term and sustainable."

 

Cullen adds that any athletics legacy from London 2012 must extend beyond the provision of a track.

 

"The athletics legacy has to be more than bricks and mortar," she said.

 

"Our bricks-and-mortar solution meets the requirement for a 25,000-seater stadium but we also propose other aspects.

 

"There is an athletics legacy fund into which we'll make direct annual payments.

 

"These funds will be at the disposal of the athletics bodies to invest in the sport.

 

"The club will sponsor five Olympian hopefuls for the 2016 Games.

 

"We'll work in partnership with athletics clubs to bring the sports together.

 

"And we'll look to use the attention Premier League football gets to increase participation in athletics.

"We have the two fastest wingers in the Premier League. With their speed and athleticism, there is natural synergy between the two sports.

"There will also be a dedicated community athletics programme because we know that athletics wants increased participation."

 

Loved this bit, maybe they should build a basketball arena too since they own Peter Crouch.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

 

That's a mental quote, brilliant.

[OzzieMandias]

SPURS STADIUM BID 'IS BEST FOR ATHLETICS'

By Duncan Bech, Press Association Sport

 

Tottenham executive director Donna Cullen insists the club's proposal to take over the Olympic Stadium will provide athletics with a superior legacy to that pledged by London 2012.

 

Lord Coe has highlighted the importance of honouring the promise made by the London 2012 bid team to the International Olympic Committee in Singapore in 2005 that the arena would remain multi-sport.

 

Coe, the London 2012 chairman, declared on Sunday that Britain's international reputation would be "trashed" if an athletics track was not retained at the site. A decision on the preferred bidder, due to be taken by the Olympic Park Legacy Company (OPLC) on Friday, has now been postponed indefinitely.

 

Tottenham intend rebuilding the ground as a football-only venue while redeveloping the athletics stadium at Crystal Palace in south London instead.

 

West Ham want to create a 60,000-capacity facility for football, athletics, concerts and community use.

 

Cullen rejects claims that by selecting Tottenham's bid, the OPLC will be reneging on the legacy pledge by stressing the club is offering a more desirable alternative.

 

"The original promise of legacy that Lord Coe has been very vocal about can't be delivered," Cullen said.

 

"It was taken to market, tested and no tenant could be found.

 

"The promise of an athletics stadium for 25,000 can't take place as originally promised.

 

"The original promise provided for demolition of two-thirds of the stadium, which is exactly what we are looking to do.

 

"The original promise for a 25,000-capacity, dedicated facility for athletics we are proposing to deliver at Crystal Palace.

 

"We'd much rather see two successful stadiums, each dedicated to their sports, rather than an unsustainable compromise in one stadium.

 

"That's sustainable, that leaves a legacy and that avoids a white elephant.

 

"The athletics track itself is not sustainable in the long term and we'd be doing a disservice to the legacy promise to try and make it work there, therefore we're suggesting Crystal Palace.

 

"In terms of athletics, to only have access 20 days per year (as provided in West Ham's bid) we don't think is a wide enough legacy.

 

"We feel that what we are offering is better than the promise made in Singapore. The only difference is the location of the athletics track."

 

In response to Coe's suggestion that Britain's reputation in the corridors of world sport was at stake, Cullen replied: "Maybe the best way to judge how we deal with sport is getting the best solution for sports and community participation in sport

 

"It's better to be judged by ensuring what you're getting out of it is long-term and sustainable."

 

Cullen adds that any athletics legacy from London 2012 must extend beyond the provision of a track.

 

"The athletics legacy has to be more than bricks and mortar," she said.

 

"Our bricks-and-mortar solution meets the requirement for a 25,000-seater stadium but we also propose other aspects.

 

"There is an athletics legacy fund into which we'll make direct annual payments.

 

"These funds will be at the disposal of the athletics bodies to invest in the sport.

 

"The club will sponsor five Olympian hopefuls for the 2016 Games.

 

"We'll work in partnership with athletics clubs to bring the sports together.

 

"And we'll look to use the attention Premier League football gets to increase participation in athletics.

"We have the two fastest wingers in the Premier League. With their speed and athleticism, there is natural synergy between the two sports.

"There will also be a dedicated community athletics programme because we know that athletics wants increased participation."

 

Loved this bit, maybe they should build a basketball arena too since they own Peter Crouch.

 

[Guest ObiChrisKenobi]

Daniel Levy planning on moving stadium regardless of the outcome. Tottenham fans - thoughts on leaving your home behind?

[jdckelly]

Daniel Levy planning on moving stadium regardless of the outcome. Tottenham fans - thoughts on leaving your home behind?

thats over the local council messing them about ain't it and trying to get spurs to pay a fortune upgrading things they should be doing themselves

[Martin Lol]

Daniel Levy planning on moving stadium regardless of the outcome. Tottenham fans - thoughts on leaving your home behind?

 

Basically what I said about 5 posts above, Levy and Spurs need a bigger stadium and Levy isn't especially bothered where in London it's built.

 

There is more to it than that though.  The NPD project building the new stadium adjacent to the old WHL is feasible and can be funded, what makes it impractical to proceed is the additional costs that are being foisted on to Spurs, £30m+ for buses and trains from TFL, £10/15m from English Heritage, assist with the cost of building council property in addition to the 500 or so affordable housing that Spurs are already doing, the list just goes on and on.   That's the reason why Levy is looking elsewhere.

 

If Haringey/TFL/English Heritage rein in their demands than I think it is still possible for the NPD project to still go ahead, if they don't Levy won't hesitate to find an alternative site iyam.   How would  I feel about moving out of Tottenham?  I wouldn't be happy but if there's no other option but to move to get the larger new stadium I'd support the move.

 

I'm far more unhappy about the council and the other leeches wanting Spurs to fund the regeneration of Tottenham and  Lammy (the MP) not doing anything to keep Spurs in Tottenham.  Lammy sat on his hands thinking Spurs would never move away and he's now up in arms now that he's realised Levy's threats to move away were not just Levy bluffing.

[STM]

West Ham are the lesser of two evils. They can both rot and die for all i care though.