Optimistic Nut Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 I can see Ireland in the Nolan role and Cabaye in the Barton one that's all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chubby Jason Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 If it's down to renewing his contract or signing Ireland then it's a no-brainer imo. Why is it? We have one player at the top of his game and another who has been poor for two years now, and is quickly looking like a one-season wonder. This is not to mention that our squad doesn't need any more upheaval with all the incomings and outgoings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 As much as i'd like a reinvented Stephen Ireland in the squad, theres no way i'd replace Barton with him like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Ireland's been crap/injured for the last 2 years where as Barton is playing the best football of his career. And he's 28 man, not 36. We could get another 4 years of quality out of him. To swap these 2 now would be criminal. ...for about 6 months of those two years. Just saying. Before anyone claims I'm making a point about Ireland being better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 As much as i'd like a reinvented Stephen Ireland in the squad, theres no way i'd replace Barton with him like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Ireland's been crap/injured for the last 2 years where as Barton is playing the best football of his career. And he's 28 man, not 36. We could get another 4 years of quality out of him. To swap these 2 now would be criminal. ...for about 6 months of those two years. Just saying. Before anyone claims I'm making a point about Ireland being better. Aye, Ireland has a poor 6 months at Villa and an injury hit 6 months at Newcastle and suddenly he's finished at 24, it's absolute madness to write him off. Still a gamble but not to the extent some are suggesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Two leaders on the field replaced by a foreign lad with no experience of the division or grasp of the language and Stephen Ireland would concern me a bit. [/not ability wise] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Ireland's been crap/injured for the last 2 years where as Barton is playing the best football of his career. And he's 28 man, not 36. We could get another 4 years of quality out of him. To swap these 2 now would be criminal. ...for about 6 months of those two years. Just saying. Before anyone claims I'm making a point about Ireland being better. Aye, Ireland has a poor 6 months at Villa and an injury hit 6 months at Newcastle and suddenly he's finished at 24, it's absolute madness to write him off. Still a gamble but not to the extent some are suggesting. I was on about Barton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Cabaye has replaced Barton though imo so if he leaves and Ireland comes in along with a Matuidi/Sissoko and N'Zogbia/Barnetta then superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Would people prefer barton in the centre over ireland? I'm almost certain we won't play with wingers next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Cabaye has replaced Barton though imo so if he leaves and Ireland comes in along with a Matuidi/Sissoko and N'Zogbia/Barnetta then superb. Has Cabaye ever played wide right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 I guess for £2 million, I'd take Ireland but I would start Barton ahead of him any time. They're two completely different type of players anyway imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Would people prefer barton in the centre over ireland? I'm almost certain we won't play with wingers next year. I don't think either work there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Right winger - Attacking midfielder off the striker btw. It's like saying Neil Tayor is Nolan's replacement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 I mean as part of a midfield three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 If we're not playing 4-4-2, I don't see a place in the team for Joey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 If we're not playing 4-4-2, I don't see a place in the team for Joey. This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 And even in a 4-4-2 I think we're looking at out and out wingers rather than a wide midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Would people prefer barton in the centre over ireland? I'm almost certain we won't play with wingers next year. I don't think either work there. Personally, I see Ireland playing in the AM role of a midfield 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Would people prefer barton in the centre over ireland? I'm almost certain we won't play with wingers next year. I don't think either work there. Personally, I see Ireland playing in the AM role of a midfield 3. Yep, in the midfield three alongside Cabaye and Tiote, or he could even play more advanced if we get another holding-midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 £2m and £40kpw would be a great deal, its whether he is willing to drop his ludicrous wages or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 £2m and £40kpw would be a great deal, its whether he is willing to drop his ludicrous wages or not. That's where we're win-win imo. We'll not sign him on anything we deem too expensive, and if he does come it means he's taken a paycut inline with what the club is prepared to offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Completely beyond me why people give a shit about wages. Provided we can afford it overall (and that's more sure than ever before) then as far as I'm concerned it's totally irrelevant if they're doing the business on the pitch. '£40k per week would be a great deal' - based on what? If he's useless then £1k per week is far too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 It's a great deal because at his best he'd be earning more than that, and if he's not at his best, on that sort of wage you're bound to get a crap Premier League club who'd take a gamble on him at £30-40k a week when he's mid 20s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Completely beyond me why people give a shit about wages. Provided we can afford it overall (and that's more sure than ever before) then as far as I'm concerned it's totally irrelevant if they're doing the business on the pitch. '£40k per week would be a great deal' - based on what? If he's useless then £1k per week is far too much. Not bring able to shift Smith, even on a free, due to his daft wages totally escaped your thoughts when posting that like? £2m, £40kpw means we are not lumbered with him should he flop, even shit players get £10-15kpw these days in the prem. Also we have a wage limit, if were paying wasters mad money and can't get rid of them then we cannot bring in players who would help us progress. Wages matter, hugely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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