mrmojorisin75 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 adriano was/is a fat mess and did riquelme ever actually reach the top? he took the piss out of us @ sjp i seem to recall but he never fit in at barca and other than a decent spell at villareal he's done nowt has he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Adriano is a Brazilian who got a big contract. Riqqy just wanted to go home iirc, and for the most part, has done well in Argentina since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Playing as captain in the final of Copa Libertadores for Boca Juniors is falling off the planet/doing nowt these days? Well I never. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 adriano was outrageous for parma like, a fucking toure de force (sp) soon as he hit inter full time (50/50 contract prior) he went to ratshit...who knows why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 adriano was outrageous for parma like, a fucking toure de force (sp) soon as he hit inter full time (50/50 contract prior) he went to ratshit...who knows why? He'd made his money plus he is knocks about with highly shady characters which probably doesn't help his cause. http://hoops.sports.ws/media/team/386ca63efb13ebc98a5a33a30cf0b6db.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Playing as captain in the final of Copa Libertadores for Boca Juniors is falling off the planet/doing nowt these days? Well I never. soz captain travels, but in professional football terms it pretty much is aye don't cut it in europe no-one wants to know, not saying it's right just saying it is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Playing as captain in the final of Copa Libertadores for Boca Juniors is falling off the planet/doing nowt these days? Well I never. soz captain travels, but in professional football terms it pretty much is aye don't cut it in europe no-one wants to know, not saying it's right just saying it is He did cut it in Europe though. He was absolutely class for Vilarreal or do they not count? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Playing as captain in the final of Copa Libertadores for Boca Juniors is falling off the planet/doing nowt these days? Well I never. soz captain travels, but in professional football terms it pretty much is aye don't cut it in europe no-one wants to know, not saying it's right just saying it is He did cut it in Europe though. He was absolutely class for Vilarreal or do they not count? question was how did they fall from the very top, my argument is riquelme never got there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Adriano was massively close to his Dad and his death hit him really hard apparently. Around the time he went off the rails. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 same question, did veron fall from the very top? i'd argue not myself? i'd argue (like riquelme & adriano) he moved to certain clubs for massive fees and didn't entirely justify them...while at the same time being full of ability Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Veron was brilliant for Parma and Lazio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Playing as captain in the final of Copa Libertadores for Boca Juniors is falling off the planet/doing nowt these days? Well I never. soz captain travels, but in professional football terms it pretty much is aye don't cut it in europe no-one wants to know, not saying it's right just saying it is He did cut it in Europe though. He was absolutely class for Vilarreal or do they not count? question was how did they fall from the very top, my argument is riquelme never got there It's obviously totally subjective but I totally disagree. You don't have a team more or less built round playing for Argentina if you're not at the very top. Veron has just retired btw. Wouldn't see he "fell from the top", more that he made a couple of poor moves and went home to fulfil a dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 You don't have a team more or less built round playing for that works for say xavi for say the last 4- 6 years but more or less noone else in world football imo...you could "build a team" around me, if they consistently fail it means fuck all imo dude Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Veron was brilliant for Parma and Lazio. right, but were either "the very top" at the time? again i'd argue not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Riquelme was arguably the best player at World Cup 2006. I think you can say that that's the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Riquelme was arguably the best player at World Cup 2006. I think you can say that that's the top. agreed http://www.fansfc.com/UploadedImages/Players/NickyButt_633571754914375000.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 That proves nothing really. Nicky Butt, despite being terrible in the latter part of his career got to the top playing for Man United, like it or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Playing as captain in the final of Copa Libertadores for Boca Juniors is falling off the planet/doing nowt these days? Well I never. soz captain travels, but in professional football terms it pretty much is aye don't cut it in europe no-one wants to know, not saying it's right just saying it is :lol: Class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 That proves nothing really. Nicky Butt, despite being terrible in the latter part of his career got to the top playing for Man United, like it or not. so it all depends on what you consider "the top" then, shocker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Veron was brilliant for Parma and Lazio. right, but were either "the very top" at the time? again i'd argue not He won Serie A for Lazio when it was technically the best league in Europe (on coefficients). He wasn't just a player there either, he was the key player in that side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Playing as captain in the final of Copa Libertadores for Boca Juniors is falling off the planet/doing nowt these days? Well I never. soz captain travels, but in professional football terms it pretty much is aye don't cut it in europe no-one wants to know, not saying it's right just saying it is :lol: Class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 same question, did veron fall from the very top? i'd argue not myself? i'd argue (like riquelme & adriano) he moved to certain clubs for massive fees and didn't entirely justify them...while at the same time being full of ability Veron was fucking fantastic at Lazio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Exactly what is it with Everton and their love for the Scottish/Rangers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Scottish managers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 When was the last time we were as high as ninth in the alphabetical league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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