Disco Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Probably worth a read for you VI. The mess that is Atletico's finances - http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/atletico-madrid-its-mad-world.html Brilliant website in general, explains the finance side of things very well to the regular man. Thanks for the tip, will go to my bookmarks And yes, Atlético are fucked. Probably one of the worst-run clubs in the world. In a way it reminds me of you under Shepherd, but amped x1000. Perennial underachievement which is patched up with kneejerk spending season after season, until the whole thing will come crashing down. Aye, it's a mess like, if (when) it does go tits up it'll have been a long, long time coming though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 The worst part of it all, is that the crooks in charge shouldn't even be there, since their purchase was deemed illegal later on but they got away with it due to a statute of limitations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 I fail to see why anybody would WANT this situation to arise. Much rather have a situation like in Germany, France and Holland where there are about 4 or 5 teams each season fighting it out for the title and where your dark horse (AZ Alkmaar, Twente, Lille, Montpellier) can actually win the damn thing once in a while. Most of the football global audience would disagree (imo) thats why they tune into the PL & La Liga rather than kick back on a Sunday morning watching Utrecht v Den Haag hoping to see the next Michael Mols. As the great Damon Killian said "This is television, that's all it is. It has nothing to do with with competitive sport, it's to do with ratings! What I don't understand is why any football fan would WANT it to be that way. Because for me La Liga is a league I have zero emotional attachment to so on a Satuday or Sunday night I want to see the best players & zillions of goals. I am not fussed who gets relegated or stays up. Where as with the PL I want to see Kevin Davies, Bolton & Gartside get relegated, I don't mind Norwich staying up, I laugh when any of the big hitters get beat. Christ I may have cheeky tommy tank if certain players damage there cruciate ligaments in the PL. Thats because I have bought into the PL mind, body & soul. This ties in with what I'm trying to say really. You're not a fan of La Liga, just a couch potato spectator with little emotional attachment other than wanting to see some of the best players in the world score some amazing goals. If you were a proper fan of a Spanish club, even one of Real Madrid or Barcelona, in the same way like you are a fan of NUFC in the Premiership, would it not become tedious to see such complete and utter dominance by two teams over all the others? I have witnessed dominance by two clubs in the England: Liverpool & MUFC they have let occasional guests have goes but its been pretty much them picking up the league titles in my life time. Just in the last decade I make it 4 different champions. "occasional guests" everyone knows since the start of the PL Man Utd are the dominating force regardless of Invincibles, Special One, Walkers Millions, Romans Billions, sheikh mansour trillions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Still, hasn't been a real two horse race with the usual suspects battling it out now for a good few years.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I fail to see why anybody would WANT this situation to arise. Much rather have a situation like in Germany, France and Holland where there are about 4 or 5 teams each season fighting it out for the title and where your dark horse (AZ Alkmaar, Twente, Lille, Montpellier) can actually win the damn thing once in a while. Most of the football global audience would disagree (imo) thats why they tune into the PL & La Liga rather than kick back on a Sunday morning watching Utrecht v Den Haag hoping to see the next Michael Mols. As the great Damon Killian said "This is television, that's all it is. It has nothing to do with with competitive sport, it's to do with ratings! That's not the reason they watch though is it? If it was, the SPL would be the biggest league in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosstef Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Sahin to Liverpool on a one-year loan is now official. Good business by them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Very good signing for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Gotta give it to Valencia: Canales, Gago, Cissokho and Pereira (who looked great against Madrid last week) for a combined total of around €20m has been excellent business for them. It's funny how in the early 2000s they spent loads on s***, and since the house came crashing down they have consistenly had one of the shrewdest transfer policies in La Liga. Necessity breeds success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxsln Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Sahin to Liverpool on a one-year loan is now official. Good business by them. Read somewhere that he will cost €5-10m in fee + 70% of wages... So thats €35m for Allen, Borini and 1season of Sahin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Sahin to Liverpool on a one-year loan is now official. Good business by them. Read somewhere that he will cost €5-10m in fee + 70% of wages... So thats €35m for Allen, Borini and 1season of Sahin ridiculous indictment of his current midfield if he's paying that much for a one year loan. where dd you hear those figures? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 That said sahin - lucas - allen isn't a bad midfield tho pts for spotting odd one out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Yeah, they are reporting Madrid got a €6m fee for a one year loan Who closes the transfer deals at Liverpool? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxsln Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Yeah, they are reporting Madrid got a €6m fee for a one year loan Who closes the transfer deals at Liverpool? +70% of the wages.. Liverpoolforum saying that hes on 115k/w = 4M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 They way they are reporting it over here apparently Madrid were in advanced talks with Arsenal for him, and suddenly Liverpool parachuted in with a bag of money to hijack the deal. It's called desperation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosstef Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 They way they are reporting it over here apparently Madrid were in advanced talks with Arsenal for him, and suddenly Liverpool parachuted in with a bag of money to hijack the deal. It's called desperation. Yup. That deal propably wouldn't have happened if Liverpool hadn't lost at WBA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Will Sahin even be a guaranteed starter? You've got Allen, Henderson (big fees), Gerrard (not really droppable), Lucas (actually quite good) and himself all vying for the 3 central midfield roles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Everton linked to M'Baye Niang for 2m. Young, versatile forward who can play on the wing and up front. For that fee, we should be in for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 There's not a chance Brendan will drop Allen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 "Brendan". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 further to what i was saying last night about exposure. todays independent sport section, page 1...pic of suarez, list of what's inside. pages 2/3...double spread about man city v liverpool page 4/5 double page article on suarez, page 6 half page about chelsea and spurs page 7 neil warnock, regular columnist page 8/9 preview of the premier league games, article about buying strikers from lower leagues but only in a top division context page 10 england and bottom 3rd of the page devoted to a round up of the rest of the prem page 11 opinion piece by martin hardy, about young players being let go and clubs lower down struggling page 12/13 a transfer possibilities segment with week to go page 14, half page each on man utd and arsenal. All the previews this weekend on TV and radio have focused exaggeratedly on the same clubs, now i know the biggger clubs will get more attention and be on more but the extent to which this is done is ridiculous and creates, as i said last night, a self fulfilling prophecy which it appears is what is wanted from certain areas and in my opinion is very, very bad for the game in general. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Marca claim that Juve are in for Villa after abandoning their chase for Llorente, and that they have already met his agents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 That said sahin - lucas - allen isn't a bad midfield tho pts for spotting odd one out No points for me then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 ooops missed the no out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Liverpool fans reckon Gerrard will play on the right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Royston Drenthe to Besiktas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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