Sifu Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 He has started 59 games and scored 23 goals in two seasons for PSG in Ligue 1. Can't see how that could be called a disapointment tbh. If you had seen how "open goals" he missed during the season, you would certainly understand why it could be called a disappointement and why PSG fans want to get rid of him. Then he must have the potensial to be one of the best strikers in Europe? Certainly not... Even if he find again all his confidence, he is an average/good player but not a player with an international dimension/potencial if you understand what i mean He appears to be better than the strikers we have atm though. Hopefully we don't pay a stupid amount for him. I reckon 8 million euros will do it..... 8 million is too much ! But if you have Erding and admetting Ba, in what system you're going to play ? Possibly 4-3-3, with Erding playing as the only striker and Ben Arfa and (hopefully) N'Zogbia supporting him. Ba is being signed as second choice in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwegianmagpie Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Still think we'll be playing some sort of a 4-4-2 system. Something similar to what we played last season. Hope so to, allways felt that two strikers upfront is our way to play. Atleast at SJP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShearMagic Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Krul Simpson Coloccini Williamson Enrique/new LB (more than likely the last one ) Tiote Cabaye Jonas HBA N'Zogbia Erding/Ba Would be how I'd line up (assuming we buy Erdinc and Zog) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Why are Jonas and N'Zogbia on the wrong wings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I think we can wave goodbye to Jonas from the starting Xl if we get N'Zogbia, Erding and Ba, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Forgot about Jonas! If we don't sign N'Zogbia, I can see Jonas being part of the potential "front three" - he'd do a good job there imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 We're f***ed if that happens. I can barely think of one winger less suited to that role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I think we can wave goodbye to Jonas from the starting Xl if we get N'Zogbia, Erding and Ba, like. The more I think about it, the more I think he could work in a midfield three with Tiote & Cabaye based on his workrate and ability to run with the ball. Potentially a nice blend there with Tiote being the ballwinner, Cabaye the passer/playmaker and Jonas the dribbler. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I think we can wave goodbye to Jonas from the starting Xl if we get N'Zogbia, Erding and Ba, like. The more I think about it, the more I think he could work in a midfield three with Tiote & Cabaye based on his workrate and ability to run with the ball. Potentially a nice blend there with Tiote being the ballwinner, Cabaye the passer/playmaker and Jonas the dribbler. This makes more sense than my post above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwegianmagpie Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Well, I actually feel Jonas is most effectiv one on one with the oponent's full back high in the pitch. Not good enough on the ball to play his way out of pressure deep on the pitch. Him and Enrique seems far to often to be way to close, around the half way line Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Also if Ben Arfa's going to be to the left of the striker with N'Zogbia to the right, it would enable Ben Arfa to concentrate on attacking and creating stuff because you'd imagine Jonas would be left of the three with Cabaye right, where he played for France, and Tiote in the centre of the two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I think we can wave goodbye to Jonas from the starting Xl if we get N'Zogbia, Erding and Ba, like. The more I think about it, the more I think he could work in a midfield three with Tiote & Cabaye based on his workrate and ability to run with the ball. Potentially a nice blend there with Tiote being the ballwinner, Cabaye the passer/playmaker and Jonas the dribbler. Yeah, he'd be far more suited to that. In theory that sounds pretty good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I think we can wave goodbye to Jonas from the starting Xl if we get N'Zogbia, Erding and Ba, like. The more I think about it, the more I think he could work in a midfield three with Tiote & Cabaye based on his workrate and ability to run with the ball. Potentially a nice blend there with Tiote being the ballwinner, Cabaye the passer/playmaker and Jonas the dribbler. Yeah, he'd be far more suited to that. In theory that sounds pretty good. Yeah I agree completly, there was a game toward the end of the season were here had a free roam role, and he dominated the park, making runs and creating most of the play. And on his day he's unplayable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Jonas is definatly a 'left midfielder' as opposed to a 'winger' like (FIFA terms). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Jonas tracks back very well as well, wouldn't have to worry about him not pulling his weight in a midfield three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Recoba Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Every signing is a gamble, especially from abroad but: 1. I have a lot of faith in the clubs scouting. We do our homework these days and I would expect whoever we sign to be a success. 2. PSG fans are scathing. Been there twice an d the crowd were very hostile to own players. I don't know if that is a French thing its the only ground I've been to. 3. Our current strikers are so poor he has to be an upgrade. He is youngish too so may progress further. 4. He is a Turkey international so even if he flops one of the (relatively) wealthy Istanbul clubs would likely refund us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 He's actualy a pretty decent passer across the ground aswell when he wants to be, he's pulled off some lush thru balls (although I cannot remember any for a while now) EDIT: Jonas i'm talking about Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 That definitely dispels the theory that mimi is a fraud and not in fact a French female. Moody bitch. Excuse my ignorance but is that me you called like that N'inquiètez pas mimi, c'était une blague! I certainly don't have the english humour because i don't find it funny at all... Aw, sorry babe. Hate it when we argue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I'd be happy to have Jonas in a midfield three. Plenty of workrate, strong dribbling and ball carrying ability, tracking back and energy. In fact, I think you'd need someone to drive on from there like Jonas to stop it becoming static. Jonas does have good technique when he wants to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Every signing is a gamble, especially from abroad but: 1. I have a lot of faith in the clubs scouting. We do our homework these days and I would expect whoever we sign to be a success. 2. PSG fans are scathing. Been there twice an d the crowd were very hostile to own players. I don't know if that is a French thing its the only ground I've been to. 3. Our current strikers are so poor he has to be an upgrade. He is youngish too so may progress further. 4. He is a Turkey international so even if he flops one of the (relatively) wealthy Istanbul clubs would likely refund us. All good points, his age is definitely in his favour, his 'confidence player' side might even out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I think we can wave goodbye to Jonas from the starting Xl if we get N'Zogbia, Erding and Ba, like. The more I think about it, the more I think he could work in a midfield three with Tiote & Cabaye based on his workrate and ability to run with the ball. Potentially a nice blend there with Tiote being the ballwinner, Cabaye the passer/playmaker and Jonas the dribbler. Would he get enough space in a centralized position to go on a dribble, assuming he advances play with his dribble will his distribution in the final 3rd be good enough as well? For me, Jonas will have his value as an impact player or an orthodox winger. If I was to try him in a new position id love to see how he coped as a rb. I know, box of frogs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaststar Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 If we're in for erding we should be goin for park chu young. Almost same amount of goals (11 or 12), in a worse team than psg and often playing up front. The support from korea would be crazy as well. Anyway, nothing is certain with any striker at this stage. Would still be happy with erding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
traeir Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Every signing is a gamble, especially from abroad but: 1. I have a lot of faith in the clubs scouting. We do our homework these days and I would expect whoever we sign to be a success. 2. PSG fans are scathing. Been there twice an d the crowd were very hostile to own players. I don't know if that is a French thing its the only ground I've been to. 3. Our current strikers are so poor he has to be an upgrade. He is youngish too so may progress further. 4. He is a Turkey international so even if he flops one of the (relatively) wealthy Istanbul clubs would likely refund us. All good points, his age is definitely in his favour, his 'confidence player' side might even out. Jonas in the middle of three is never gonna work. Yes he can put his head down and dribble, he has a good work rate but passing and football intelligence is awful so he's better be used out wide!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Just asked on Twitter... Tom Williams (I cover French football for Agence France-Presse (AFP) and run the Football Further blog) - He's a good player: quick, sharp, mobile, works the channels well. Often needs a few chances to score though. and.... me - Do you reckon he could cut it playing as a central number 9 or is he better up along side a big(ger) man? him - He never really established a partnership with Guillaume Hoarau (a bigger man). Would need good service if on his own though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I read on another site that playing with Hoarau is one of the reasons he got worse. Just never hit it off with him as a strike partner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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