Benwell Lad Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 People say he can't deal with the physical players as well, so what's Benteke if he isn't physical and isn't pacey? I'd have him over Long any day of the week. Jelavic and Long are in good form, posing a good partnership threat since their arrival and it should be a good battle. Colo and Williamson will have to be on their game but I'm not fearing their two strikers, we pose just as much threat with Remy, if not more of a threat. Their forwards are in good form, but it's their central midfield I worry about. Livermore and Huddlestone are bossing it at the moment, and we really should be playing with 3 in the middle to get the best out of Anita, and have a go at their 3 at the back. Aye, got to say Brucey has done a very good job and made some very astute signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I think Shawcross is a good defender for his type, he just hasn't lived up the hype he had when he was younger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 He's exactly what we need to partner MYM. You can guarantee we'll get someone with no PL experience and not nearly as good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I'm with Ronaldo on this one, Shawcross would be an excellent purchase to partner Mym/Colo. 25ish, tough, has pace and PL experience. Although he is a cunt, all teams need a cunt or two in their ranks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 People say he can't deal with the physical players as well, so what's Benteke if he isn't physical and isn't pacey? I'd have him over Long any day of the week. Jelavic and Long are in good form, posing a good partnership threat since their arrival and it should be a good battle. Colo and Williamson will have to be on their game but I'm not fearing their two strikers, we pose just as much threat with Remy, if not more of a threat. Their forwards are in good form, but it's their central midfield I worry about. Livermore and Huddlestone are bossing it at the moment, and we really should be playing with 3 in the middle to get the best out of Anita, and have a go at their 3 at the back. Aye, got to say Brucey has done a very good job and made some very astute signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Poor b****** always gets brought up when I'm around bless the c*** He is dirty but him and Huth have been fairly solid over the years for Stoke. We've lacked someone with that sort of physicality for a long time. If it means a couple of leg breaks or cheap shots down the line, so be it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 He's a slight better version of Williamson given that he is a bit more aggressive but would cost the best part of £10m. He was protected by Pulis' ultra neg style, he's been poor this season and was merked by Zlatan for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 We've got CBs who've been merked by far worse, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 We've got CBs who've been merked by far worse, like. Yes, yes we have. Your point is? Disappointing lack of mention of Shane Long or Haidara/Liverpool there - standards are slipping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Petty as fuck, that. And about as relevant as Shawcross getting 'merked' by a great striker in one game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Petty as fuck, that. And about as relevant as Shawcross getting 'merked' by a great striker in one game. Conveniently ignore the main point but I'm bored so I'll reply... He played a game against a top stiker, was left open and got utterly embarrassed because he is limited when he wasn't protected - as well you knew I meant. You'll note Stoke have shipped loads of goals this season for the same reason - even more than our collection of jokers who aside from Taylor are only worthy of criticism from yourself despite Shawcross' fine marshalling. If you think he "certainly wouldn't cost the earth for a CB who'd be equally valuable." (to replace Coloccini) you must be dafter than I give you credit for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I'll ignore the absurd Taylor comment, but nice try. I've already conceded more than once that Shawcross is out of our price range. I'm not even going to touch the fact that Stoke have shipped goals under Mark Hughes. Man City were conceding 3 at home to the likes of Burnley, Bolton and Sunderland with that idiot in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 So Mark Hughes has made him shite? OK. I'll agree to disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Ryan Shawcross is shite now. Sounds like someone might have an agenda. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Ryan Shawcross is s**** now. Sounds like someone might have an agenda. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Lovely shoving of words in to the mouth, well played. My agenda is He's a slight better version of Williamson given that he is a bit more aggressive but would cost the best part of £10m. He was protected by Pulis' ultra neg style, he's been poor this season and was merked by Zlatan for England. and He played a game against a top stiker, was left open and got utterly embarrassed because he is limited when he wasn't protected - as well you knew I meant. You'll note Stoke have shipped loads of goals this season for the same reason, despite Shawcross' fine marshalling. You seem to think he's a good player, I don't. Saying that if someone knew about agendas it would be... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 We aren't capable of great anymore. He's solid and the type of defender we need, that's all I've said. Nice double edit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 We aren't capable of great anymore. He's solid and the type of defender we need, that's all I've said. Nice double edit. Was great to good btw folks. I don't think he's either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I'm with Disco here tbf, never been very impressed by Shawcross and for the price that have been mentioned about him I wouldn't get close to him either. But then again, I don't watch Stoke v Hull, Stoke v Cardiff and so on, so what would I know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 He's better than what we have and i would like him but he would cost too much. Never going to happen so not much point in discussing it, saying that... we got 8 pages worth of bullshit in the Glenn Hoddle for DOF thread so anything is possible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Never left stoke for anyone better. All he's got going for him is he's a bit of a prick who'll put in a heavy tackle. Wouldn't want him anywhere near us personally. The very definition of average. And I'm not a fan of players who snap other players legs. I hate stoke and certainly don't want anyone they rate playing for us That's just ridiculous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Never left stoke for anyone better. All he's got going for him is he's a bit of a prick who'll put in a heavy tackle. Wouldn't want him anywhere near us personally. The very definition of average. And I'm not a fan of players who snap other players legs. I hate stoke and certainly don't want anyone they rate playing for us That's just ridiculous you seen their squad? They like Jon Walters FFS! They aren't exactly know for having anyone remotely decent Their keeper is highly regarded. I'm not saying they have players all over the shop but if Stoke rate a player doesn't mean to say i wouldn't take them. Huddlestone could have quite easily been playing for them had he not failed a medical and i'm a fan of his for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Colo has regressed the past two or three years. However on his day he can produce fab performances as yesterday. And we look far better with him in the side. 2-3 years? It's only 2 yars ago he was in team of the season for the PL is it not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Colo has regressed the past two or three years. However on his day he can produce fab performances as yesterday. And we look far better with him in the side. 2-3 years? It's only 2 yars ago he was in team of the season for the PL is it not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 He was crap for most of last season but lets not re-write history. People do the same with Tiote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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