geofire17814 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 R Taylor is the English version of Philip Lahm. Trust me. He's more like a newborn lamb!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Ryan Taylor is going to score... He must be getting withdrawal symptoms from scoring against North East teams. Step up the new Liam O'Brien Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teohgk Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 R Taylor is the English version of Philip Lahm. Trust me. http://www.sunrainey.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/med.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Call me whatever you want, but I seriously worry if we line up with R.Taylor and Shola. Krul Simpson Taylor Colo R.Taylor Barton Cabaye Tiote Jonas Ameobi Ba 2-1 to them. Have exactly the same feeling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 We've got a decent midfield, we have the potential to control the game there as we did last season but they're obviously going to target Ryan Taylor and get the ball down their right whenever they can. I think we'll sit deep when we lose the ball so he's not so exposed in one on one situations. Gutierrez will need to drop back and help out. I'd have Obertan up front, had a good cameo against Arsenal and offers vital pace on the counter. His presence will stop them holding a high line as Arsenal did against Ameobi and Ba. We virtually conceded the midfield in that game and let them pass it about in midfield. The two forwards got the ball 40 yards from goal and neither really held it up well. Pace and movement solves that problem, I don't think their centre backs will fancy a sprint against Obertan so they'll drop deeper which allows our midfield more breathing room and we can get the ball to the strikers further up the pitch. That happened to some extent in the Arsenal game after Obertan came on. Ameobi or Ba isn't an easy one. We know Ameobi's limitations, but none of our strikers have set the world alight in pre-season and Ba struggled last week. They fear Ameobi and in this kind of game, lacking a form striker, I'd go with a player who has proven he can not only handle the occasion but thrive under it. You see some players wilt in derby games but we've seen before how Ameobi responds against the mackems. Throwing Ba in seems a risk to me, you have to ask yourself who they will fear more. To be honest any strikeforce we put out is going to look toothless on current evidence. I'd like to see Vuckic on the bench, he's looked sharp in pre-season and offers an element of surprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrenchWilliam Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Is Gyan playing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Pardew has build a ridiculous rod for his back saying he'll start Ameobi. Means we're going to See Ba and Ameobi in a 442 again for at least the first half, ignoring the fact that we looked 100% better when he mad Obertan the 2nd striker/5th midfielder. While they will be more effective that they were vs Arsenal, he really can't be considering Ameobi as the second best striker at the club... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Call me whatever you want, but I seriously worry if we line up with R.Taylor and Shola. Krul Simpson Taylor Colo R.Taylor Barton Cabaye Tiote Jonas Ameobi Ba 2-1 to them. I worry a bit with Taylor in there, but not Shola. People will say its nonsense that Shola always does well against Sunderland, but you can't really argue with 6 goals in 4 starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Not at the SOL though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Obertan will start tomorrow. Pardew did say he wanted more pace in the team away from home to catch teams on the break. or along those lines Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CheickMansour Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Call me whatever you want, but I seriously worry if we line up with R.Taylor and Shola. Krul Simpson Taylor Colo R.Taylor Barton Cabaye Tiote Jonas Ameobi Ba 2-1 to them. Although I expect that to be the line-up, I'm really hoping we can play a 4-5-1 with Obertan behind the striker (suggested above). He was really good as a substitute last week, and, most importantly, has the pace to stretch their defence. We don't have many players like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Obertan will start tomorrow. Pardew did say he wanted more pace in the team away from home to catch teams on the break. or along those lines He won't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Obertan will start tomorrow. Pardew did say he wanted more pace in the team away from home to catch teams on the break. or along those lines Don't see it myself, cant see him benching Ba or Barton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Not at the SOL though. Fair enough he only has 1 in 2 starts in mackem land. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocho Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Obertan will start tomorrow. Pardew did say he wanted more pace in the team away from home to catch teams on the break. or along those lines Don't see it myself, cant see him benching Ba or Barton Obertan playing behind Shola. We looked a lot better against Arsenal playing that formation. Sunderland will have 5 in midfield as well, with Sessegnon dropping deep. Otherwise, we'd get outnumbered in midfield again playing 4 in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Pardew has build a ridiculous rod for his back saying he'll start Ameobi. Means we're going to See Ba and Ameobi in a 442 again for at least the first half, ignoring the fact that we looked 100% better when he mad Obertan the 2nd striker/5th midfielder. While they will be more effective that they were vs Arsenal, he really can't be considering Ameobi as the second best striker at the club... Really infuriating. Obertan will eventually come on for Shola, and we will gain from it momentarily. Only an injury can stop Shola Ameobi from starting for Newcastle in fucking 2011. That's just Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Can't believe we're going into the 2nd game of the season with Shola potentially being our number 1 striker... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 http://www.economicnoise.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/scared-to-death.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teohgk Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Can't believe we're going into the 2nd game of the season with Shola potentially being our number 1 striker... he is our number 1 striker last year , so basically he just retain his title Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Nerves are really getting tough now. Just cannot believe we're going to be without a LB, I didn't think we'd actually do this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Can't believe we're going into the 2nd game of the season with Shola potentially being our number 1 striker... Ba is clearly our number one striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WashyGeordie Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 He could be replacing Ba for Obertan with a 4-5-1. Would be crazy playing 4-4-2 away at the SOS. Surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Can't believe we're going into the 2nd game of the season with Shola potentially being our number 1 striker... Ba is clearly our number one striker. And presumably HBA is his preferred partner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 He could be replacing Ba for Obertan with a 4-5-1. Would be crazy playing 4-4-2 away at the SOS. Surely? Like last season, with Best and Shola up front? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WashyGeordie Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 He could be replacing Ba for Obertan with a 4-5-1. Would be crazy playing 4-4-2 away at the SOS. Surely? Like last season, with Best and Shola up front? Aye but it's the 2nd game of the season, both teams (or ours) hasn't really gelled yet and we haven't beat them 5-1/played them at home before away... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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