Guest BooBoo Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Its just nonsense though isn't it? Football Manager has created an army of folk who think thu are tactical geniuses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 First game of the season, you'd hope to see some for of style and play, maybe not executed perfectly but a definitive style nonetheless. I didn't, it seemed a little of the same old same old, no real movement, no intensity no width, no general plan from my point of view. I personally think he would have been better off playing a 451, I know it maybe have seemed negative but there midrfield and defence had so little pressure in the first and second phase, allowed their midfield to control the game without even getting out of second gear. Not good enough in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Its just nonsense though isn't it? Football Manager has created an army of folk who think thu are tactical geniuses. agreed. I think most of what a manager does is manage/ motivate people. no formation will help a de-motivated team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 There was little gameplan or change of style. What was served up was little short of tedious dross. As soon as the team was announced with Shola and Ba, it was always going to be "knock it up and hope it sticks." The only bonus is that with any luck, we won't see a worse game all season. Bringing Lovenkrands on was completely pointless. After his promising pre season, where on earth was Vuckic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrSundlofer Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Its just nonsense though isn't it? Football Manager has created an army of folk who think thu are tactical geniuses. What's your problem? I can delete the opening post just for you then. My thoughts and question is what Pardew wants to do with his new style of play, and what it is? Etc.. We are one the same side you know. I was just thinking what he wants to achieve with all these changes. And share my thoughts. I'm not a tactical genius but I'm curious to see what kind of tactical changes Pardew will do with the team this season. Football Manager has nothing to do with it. Don't understand why you get so upset, or frustrated. There was little gameplan or change of style. What was served up was little short of tedious dross. As soon as the team was announced with Shola and Ba, it was always going to be "knock it up and hope it sticks." The only bonus is that with any luck, we won't see a worse game all season. Bringing Lovenkrands on was completely pointless. After his promising pre season, where on earth was Vuckic? I don't want to focus only on the Arsenal game. But try to figure out what he has in mind for the whole season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TherealnorthernTOON Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 What we needed we didn't have for that game, and it was pure speed. We needed players to run at them, to create space. No one in the team or on the bench could do that, and all our attacks ended toothless. When obertan came on he did something. But when you are the only one trying to create a havoc is like trying to boil water with a matchstick, it will be there as a flash and die quite quickly. No one could follow his runs adequatly enough imo. Demba ba should've been there alons side him, as he tends to be running more into space then amoeobi, our hold up play was shit with ameobi aswell. So the decision to keep lankypants on instead of someone who's new and could've done something, atleast excite the fans have a little more pace and power moving the channels going forward alongside Obie instead of waiting behind. It's more and more obvious to me that barton should play more in a midfield 3 then what he was now. He's good at running up and down the pitch, find space, got grit. Cabaye got creativity at the same level. With obertan and marveaux at each side of the two of them could create alot. Get the ball inn, get working on those rebounds reflections etc. and get the ball in the back of the net. What is encouraging aswell is that both Cabaye and Barton got a good distance shot, so there is more threats around the team now then before. If Dekka just can get out and get those last few players we need we will have a pretty good squad compared to last year. Where we had one option and it was route one and nothing else. Now we got several different approuches to choose from if something isn't working. That especially is pleasing to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Cannot consider our new style of play until a few games have been played. Yesterday was an exception. We came up against arguably the best passing and pressing side in the league. We couldn't pull off any style of play against such better footballers. Our pitch looked massive btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrSundlofer Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Cannot consider our new style of play until a few games have been played. You are correct ..therefore I want to speculate on what's in his mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.C Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Yesterday was an exception. We came up against arguably the best passing and pressing side in the league. We couldn't pull off any style of play against such better footballers. That's kind of the key point really. No other team will do that to us this year at home without eventually resorting to more direct play. We desperately lacked width yesterday though but I'll put that down to a shocking preseason. We need to see Jonas running with the ball more, and hopefully Obertan turns into a more useful option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TherealnorthernTOON Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I'm not so sure, if we had an adequatly good left back. More pace in the team forcing Arsenal to fall back quicker to not be overun and let players like Obie, Benyo or Marv behind their lines I really think we would have kept more of possesion. As barton, Cabaye and tiote would have alot more space to operate in infront of their defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 One of the best ways to hurt Arsenal apart from outfighting them like we did in the 2nd half of the 4-4, is to counter attack them at pace, its something Man Utd have perfected against them recently, easier said than done mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlkier Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Based on yesterday's performance, I'd like to see us line up like this against the scum: http://www.footballuser.com/Formations/2011/08/186826_Newcastle_United.jpg Bench: Harper, Williamson, Marveaux, Vuckic, Ba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Why Shola would be in anyone's formation is beyond me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlkier Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Why Shola would be in anyone's formation is beyond me. Because he is world-class against the scum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Obertan needs to start off the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Its just nonsense though isn't it? Football Manager has created an army of folk who think thu are tactical geniuses. agreed. I think most of what a manager does is manage/ motivate people. no formation will help a de-motivated team http://www.postgraduatetoolbox.net/system/images/127/small/Mr_Motivator.jpg?1305709689 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 there wasn't any new style, yesterday was a very basic 4-4-2. understanable in the circumstances given tiote and cabaye not having played together,merveaux and ben arfa being out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 there wasn't any new style, yesterday was a very basic 4-4-2. understanable in the circumstances given tiote and cabaye not having played together,merveaux and ben arfa being out. Barton Tiote Obertan Cabaye Jonas is sort of what we ended up with in the seond half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlkier Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Based on yesterday's performance, I'd like to see us line up like this against the scum: http://www.footballuser.com/Formations/2011/08/186826_Newcastle_United.jpg Bench: Harper, Williamson, Marveaux, Vuckic, Ba. Good thinking Pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Apart from the fact it was nothing like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Apart from the fact it was nothing like that Aye. Obertan never even played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Lol @ putting Pieters in the line up. Can't understand all that nonsense about putting players in lineups when they're not even ours yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pleno1 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 3-5-2? Jonas rwb, the new french guy lwb williamson in the middle of collocini/saylor 3 midfield centre.. tiote, barton, cabaye ben arfa and marveux behind a 10m centre forward? Krul Saylor Williamson Collocini Jonas Aly Sissoko Barton Tiote Cabaye Marveux Ben Arfa Maiga harper raylor simpson gosling ba shola obertran Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 12 players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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