Judge Holden Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 See what we sign first before deciding which of our shift to bin off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 The ones I'd be fairly desperate to get rid of would be: Joelinton Carroll Gayle Muto Shelvey Bentaleb Rose Krafth Elliot All the other hangers-on without a squad number and loanees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Agree with most of that except Joelinton. I think played in his proper position in a team playing possession based attacking football with teammates breaking forward at pace supporting him I'd think he'd perform much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Yedlin Krafth Rose Benteleb Fernandez Hayden Murphy Muto Carroll Elliott Darlow They can go. Shelvey Joelinton Gayle Longstaffs Woodman They can have a season to try and improve alongside better players. The rest could/should stay for at least a year or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 I’d keep Dubravka, Lejune, Lascelles, ASM, our Mexican magician, Schar and Fernandez only, and would happily see the rest go. The Longstaff brothers are bang average and won’t be at this club in 2 years time. Those 7 players are our only good or top players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 I’d keep Dubravka, Lejune, Lascelles, ASM, our Mexican magician, Schar and Fernandez only, and would happily see the rest go. The Longstaff brothers are bang average and won’t be at this club in 2 years time. Those 7 players are our only good or top players. Can't agree with that. They developed well under Rafa, and would do so again if Rafa returns or Pochettino comes in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Butcher Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Matty never played for Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 I’d keep Dubravka, Lejune, Lascelles, ASM, our Mexican magician, Schar and Fernandez only, and would happily see the rest go. The Longstaff brothers are bang average and won’t be at this club in 2 years time. Those 7 players are our only good or top players. Can't agree with that. They developed well under Rafa, and would do so again if Rafa returns or Pochettino comes in. One of them did and I thought at the time he was the real deal, I’ve since concluded he’s bang average though sadly, they both are. If we can afford to improve on them and that area, at their expense, tough. We need far better in there even now under Bruce and Ashley SD NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Longstaffs need to stay until they stop improving. They both got enough talent to be decent prem players, how far after that I don’t know. What I do know is playing & training with better players, in a winning team, with a top manager surrounded by top coaches in modern facilities is going to push that forward, quite the opposite to what they’re in now. More chance of growing wheat on the moon than young players Reaching their full potential here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Build On/Keep Dubravka Lascelles Schar Longstaff Almiron Saint-Maximin Give time/Develop/Improve Via Good Coaching Woodman Matty Longstaff Joelinton Ruthlessly sell/upgrade within the first year Ritchie Shelvey Get rid straight away Krafth Murphy Atsu Gayle Is what I’m hoping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Longstaffs need to stay until they stop improving. They both got enough talent to be decent prem players, how far after that I don’t know. What I do know is playing & training with better players, in a winning team, with a top manager surrounded by top coaches in modern facilities is going to push that forward, quite the opposite to what they’re in now. More chance of growing wheat on the moon than young players Reaching their full potential here. True and if they do we could always cash in on them Ashley style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 I’d keep Dubravka, Lejune, Lascelles, ASM, our Mexican magician, Schar and Fernandez only, and would happily see the rest go. The Longstaff brothers are bang average and won’t be at this club in 2 years time. Those 7 players are our only good or top players. Can't agree with that. They developed well under Rafa, and would do so again if Rafa returns or Pochettino comes in. One of them did and I thought at the time he was the real deal, I’ve since concluded he’s bang average though sadly, they both are. If we can afford to improve on them and that area, at their expense, tough. We need far better in there even now under Bruce and Ashley SD NUFC. Longstaff needs a proper coach, someone who will drill instructions in to him and those around so he knows what to do, what’s expected of him and others. Since Rafa has left he’s been told to run harder in training and enjoy yourself of the pitch. Top players do not develop in that kind of environment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Matty has looked good whenever he's played. Only just turned 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Matty has looked good whenever he's played. Only just turned 20 Very raw I think he needs way more coaching than Sean. Sean Longstaff will have a better career I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Longstaffs need to stay until they stop improving. They both got enough talent to be decent prem players, how far after that I don’t know. What I do know is playing & training with better players, in a winning team, with a top manager surrounded by top coaches in modern facilities is going to push that forward, quite the opposite to what they’re in now. More chance of growing wheat on the moon than young players Reaching their full potential here. True and if they do we could always cash in on them Ashley style. Exactly. If the club outgrows them then so be it, we sell them and some superstar takes their place. If they keep up them we’ve got two local lads reaching the top of the game, but to get rid right now would be disastrous for the club, though the players themselves would benefit (club in current state) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Matty has looked good whenever he's played. Only just turned 20 Very raw I think he needs way more coaching than Sean. Other way round for me. I think Matty has the most talent, and can be freerer to express it, Sean needs more discipline and intelligence which requires more support from coaching and players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Matty has looked good whenever he's played. Only just turned 20 Very raw I think he needs way more coaching than Sean. Other way round for me. I think Matty has the most talent, and can be freerer to express it, Sean needs more discipline and intelligence which requires more support from coaching and players. Disagree I think Sean is way more talented those few months under Rafa he was sensational as one of his pivots. Matty has just popped up with the odd goal rather than complete performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Butcher Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Matty has looked good whenever he's played. Only just turned 20 Better write him off, just to be sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Matty has looked good whenever he's played. Only just turned 20 Very raw I think he needs way more coaching than Sean. Other way round for me. I think Matty has the most talent, and can be freerer to express it, Sean needs more discipline and intelligence which requires more support from coaching and players. Disagree I think Sean is way more talented. You’re looking at Shaun at 3 years ahead of Matty. Matty in 3 years will be further ahead than his brother now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Would get him to sign an extension and then loan him to a good club in Championship for a season, and then take it from there. (Matty that is) Shaun? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Maitland-Niles would be good imo. Always impressed me and probably could be tempted away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Neither longstaff was helped by our "tactics" this season, so they should be given time. Sean was brilliant under Rafa with a clearly defined role and responsibilities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t00nraider Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Tactics are an excuse. They have not been playin to Premier league standard. Passing and tackling has been very poor. Reports stating we are after Harry Kane lmao. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Maitland-Niles would be good imo. Always impressed me and probably could be tempted away. This guy is wank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Neither longstaff was helped by our "tactics" this season, so they should be given time. Sean was brilliant under Rafa with a clearly defined role and responsibilities. I was amazed Rice got in the England team before Sean but he has fell back massively under Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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