Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Mike Ashley doesn't give a fuck about Newcastle United, its history, its stadium, its fans. Nothing. He only values SD and that only. The club is there to advertise SD and NUFC will be ran on the bare minimum. MD? Cheap nobody. Manager? Cheap nobody. Players? Cheap unknowns. Ambition? To stay in the league? Cups? Nope. Europe? Nope. Fans? CANTS! I hope the whole fucking lot crashes and burns around him and every CANT that still supports this shit tip of a so-called football club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 The irony is that we're only "financially stable" because of the huge increases in TV revenue which have been outside of his control. If it wasn't for that, this way of running a club would have been a surefire way of "doing a Leeds/Pompey". Aye. For the first five years, all he did was fucking cryarse on about how much money NUFC was costing him. What a business genius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Mike Ashley doesn't give a f*** about Newcastle United, its history, its stadium, its fans. Nothing. He only values SD and that only. The club is there to advertise SD and NUFC will be ran on the bare minimum. MD? Cheap nobody. Manager? Cheap nobody. Players? Cheap unknowns. Ambition? To stay in the league? Cups? Nope. Europe? Nope. Fans? CANTS! I hope the whole f***ing lot crashes and burns around him and every CANT that still supports this s*** tip of a so-called football club. Hear Hear!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 being successful and wealthy is 80% luck okay man. You laugh but if you knew much about business and the economy it honestly is about being in the right place at the right time. Obviously the harder you work and the more intelligent you are the greater chance you have of making it, but do you not think 100s of other people aren't doing exactly that as well? I agree it's also not just hard work but there has to be a drive - a certain type of ruthlessness and determination to see things through and also the cunning to carve out opportunities where others don't see them - in order to rise above the hundred-thousandaire club of quasi-successful entrepreneurs and into the millionaire+ brackets. Ashley obviously possesses these traits, cunt that he is. edit: In that respect I don't think it's down to luck, unless we're being pedantic and saying the luck of him being born with those genes . But a lot of the rest is - environment, initial opportunities, upbringing etc. I'd just never put a percentage on what space each of those occupy. The ruthlessness is much of what sets him apart from other businesses in the same market imo. Ashley doesn't pay minimum wage, he doesn't adhere to consumer laws regarding advertising, he doesn't treat staff like human beings where other companies will try to, he will refuse to pay suppliers etc etc. Britain doesn't have a grasp on companies like his, if they're big enough, they can basically do whatever the fuck they want, and he's nasty enough to exploit every possible cost cutting measure. All these things give him an edge that he's taken full advantage of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I've said it before and I'll say it again, Ashley isn't a great businessman. The fact he runs a very successful business and is extremely wealthy doesn't make him a great businessman. I'd say he is an awful businessman, and his running of NUFC more than demonstrates that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I've said it before and I'll say it again, Ashley isn't a great businessman. The fact he runs a very successful business and is extremely wealthy doesn't make him a great businessman. I'd say he is an awful businessman, and his running of NUFC more than demonstrates that. I'm 100% sure I once argued that and you took the exact opposite position. Not that it matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I've said it before and I'll say it again, Ashley isn't a great businessman. The fact he runs a very successful business and is extremely wealthy doesn't make him a great businessman. I'd say he is an awful businessman, and his running of NUFC more than demonstrates that. I'm 100% sure I once argued that and you took the exact opposite position. Not that it matters. I probably did. I read up more on SD, his practices, how he started out etc. since. Before that I just looked at his wealth, the success of SD etc. and thought "good businessman." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I've said it before and I'll say it again, Ashley isn't a great businessman. The fact he runs a very successful business and is extremely wealthy doesn't make him a great businessman. I'd say he is an awful businessman, and his running of NUFC more than demonstrates that. I'm 100% sure I once argued that and you took the exact opposite position. Not that it matters. I probably did. I read up more on SD, his practices, how he started out etc. since. Before that I just looked at his wealth, the success of SD etc. and thought "good businessman." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 being successful and wealthy is 80% luck okay man. You laugh but if you knew much about business and the economy it honestly is about being in the right place at the right time. Obviously the harder you work and the more intelligent you are the greater chance you have of making it, but do you not think 100s of other people aren't doing exactly that as well? Do you think when Ashley set up his first store he planned the recession? It's no coincidence his value has grown massively since 2007 in so many different ways. He started off with a 10,000 (the equivalent of 31,000 now) loan from his family. How many families do you know will remortgage their house so they can loan their son 31,000 for a new business? To most people the dream would have stopped right there. Didn't he fall out with them, after not paying it back or something along those lines? Yep, iirc he's pretty much estranged from his parents (who are not exactly well off) over it. You know that saying about someone would sell their granny for a few quid? Well swap "granny" for "mam" and "a few quid" for "a slightly smaller liabilities total on the balance sheet" and that's exactly what this cunt did. He's beyond parody man, a despicable human being by any measure make no mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 So? I only got into this thread to reply to one comment about him not "giving a f***". That's what all of my rambles over the last page have been in reference to. Fair enough and of course you're entitled to your opinion but I'll take the word of Kevin Keegan, who worked under Ashley, above yours. Nobody will ever convince me Ashley is anything but bad for NUFC as a football club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Probably see ads for his stock at SJP soon. "BUY NOW! 10% OFF!!!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 As per my earlier posts. As the economy stabilises and starts to rise SportsDirect will start to suffer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Have Leicester spent £50m+ in successive windows? The culture of the club is riddled with an acceptance of failure. That's what holds us back more than anything, and what won't change until he's gone. You can't put this Newcastle United right with a few players, not now. Exactly this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Sports Direct shares have taken a hammering today, down nearly 9%. NUFC won't be MA's focus right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Have Leicester spent £50m+ in successive windows? The culture of the club is riddled with an acceptance of failure. That's what holds us back more than anything, and what won't change until he's gone. You can't put this Newcastle United right with a few players, not now. Exactly this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Sports Direct shares have taken a hammering today, down nearly 9%. NUFC won't be MA's focus right now. Holy shit, down almost 12% now: http://www.lse.co.uk/shareprice.asp?shareprice=spd Down from 737 on December 2nd to 452 right now and plumetting like a brick. Is this all down to "China" or is anything happening specific to SD? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Another procent down inside 5 minutes. This is glorious. The cunt could be destitute by the end of the day at this rate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Ah, found why: http://www.ft.com/fastft/2016/01/08/sports-direct-warns-on-profits/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Would be interesting to see what would happen to Newcastle if one day some rich t*** bought his shares in SD? Maybe that could be our best escape route? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Down 13% now. According to this he owns 55,14% of SD shares. Don't know exactly how money, but he must be losing hundreds of millions today, and probably well over a billion since last month. Could this have an impact on NUFC? Surely he will be looking to sell valuable assets if this continues? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 He's down about £290m today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 He's down about £290m today. How many shares does he have? Wondering how much he is down since the start of December. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Aren't all shares plummeting at the moment though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Down 13% now. According to this he owns 55,14% of SD shares. Don't know exactly how money, but he must be losing hundreds of millions today, and probably well over a billion since last month. Could this have an impact on NUFC? Surely he will be looking to sell Sissoko & Perez if this continues? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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