Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Could you realistically fund the playing side of things through TV revenue and then skim the cream off the top in terms of other revenue streams associated with the club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Would rather take any risks associated with being taken over than be stuck with Ashley. I genuinely cannot believe that anyone wouldn't after 10 years of having the passion sucked out of us! Well, eight and half until Rafa rolled up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 This may all change if the HMRC case goes wrong, there is a decision today on whether or not the warrants were legal i.e. whether HMRC had sufficient evidence to suggest there is a tax fraud case to answer and therefore enter NUFC premises and seize documents. If this goes against us I suspect we might be in limbo for a while I was under the impression there was nothing wrong, and we filed a complaint because of the way this was handled på HMRC? Or am i mistaken? I think you are mistaken as HMRC have not examined any of the documents yet due to the appeal against seizure. If it goes against us today and therefore there is a case to answer, the subsequent examination of the records and evidence will determine our guilt or otherwise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 It's all just a front to cover the fact that we're not spending more money in January. Guess who wins again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 This may all change if the HMRC case goes wrong, there is a decision today on whether or not the warrants were legal i.e. whether HMRC had sufficient evidence to suggest there is a tax fraud case to answer and therefore enter NUFC premises and seize documents. If this goes against us I suspect we might be in limbo for a while I was under the impression there was nothing wrong, and we filed a complaint because of the way this was handled på HMRC? Or am i mistaken? I think you are mistaken as HMRC have not examined any of the documents yet due to the appeal against seizure. If it goes against us today and therefore there is a case to answer, the subsequent examination of the records and evidence will determine our guilt or otherwise Ok, cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 We're a total no-brainer for an investor right now - commercial revenue not even close to being maximised, world class manager in place and seemingly committed to us long-term if the conditions are right, united fan base, global recognition despite being shit for 10 years and one of the league's best stadiums. I can't think of another club in the league that has as much immediate potential as we do. If this Staveley MILF is looking at other options they will be lesser options. The only thing that might stand in their favour is that they will probably be less problematic to acquire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 There isn't a club in the world with as much untapped potential as us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 There isn't a club in the world with as much untapped potential as us. SAFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Ha ha ha ha ha... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I read on here that she's a MLF anarl... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Ha ha ha ha ha... Calm down. It wasn't that funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I read on here that she's a MLF anarl... She's already met with Short according to an RTG ITK. I kid you not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 It's alreet lads, our potential isn't bigger than Bournemouth or Barnsley's. Best she moved on imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 It's nice to take a minute and dream of champions league football but this is us man, no way it's happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 http://www.arabnews.com/node/1171891/sports DUBAI: Amanda Staveley, the financial entrepreneur who made her name in Middle East investment, could use Arabian Gulf money in a possible takeover of English football club Newcastle United. She is said to be interested in the club in the northeast of England, believing it shares similar characteristics to Manchester City, which she helped Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al-Nahyan of the UAE buy in 2008 for £210 million ($278 million), and which has since risen to the top of the English Premier League (EPL), helped by a big injection of Gulf cash. A source close to Staveley told Arab News that her interest in Newcastle was at an early stage, that there had been no talks yet with Mike Ashley, the current owner, and that she was still interested in other clubs in the EPL. But it was also indicated that a deal could be done relatively quickly, if serious talks got underway, possibly by the end of the year. Staveley attended a football match in Newcastle last weekend as the guest of Rafa Benitez, the manager, signaling her interest in a possible takeover of the club. Ashley has said on several occasions that he would be a willing seller of Newcastle, which he has owned since 2007, at the right price. Like Manchester City, Newcastle is a traditionally strong footballing brand in a city that is enthusiastic about the game. Unlike the City deal, however, in which Staveley acted as an adviser to Sheikh Mansour, she would be the principal investor in Newcastle, via her firm PCP Capital Partners. Any bid would be backed by funds from her extensive network of contacts in the Middle East, Asia and elsewhere. Globally PCP has $37 billion of assets under management, with Staveley acting for big Gulf investors in London real estate and other assets, as well as for wealthy Chinese investors. Any discussions between Staveley and Ashley are likely to focus on price. Ashley is said to have spent £300 million on the club in the 10 years he has owned it, so any deal would probably have to start at that price. Staveley was earlier this year linked with a much bigger deal for Liverpool Football Club, where she was marginally involved in an abortive takeover by Dubai investors in 2007. She was also said to be interested in doing a deal with Tottenham Hotspur, the north London club. She told Arab News in June that she saw English football as an “attractive investment,” but is believed to have grown interested in Newcastle since then. A source said that there were five clubs that she was analyzing from a financial point of view. The identity of Middle East investors to help fund Staveley’s possible bid is not yet known. She has extensive connections in the UAE and Qatar, and has also been looking increasingly at Saudi Arabia, where she said she saw big investment opportunities on the back of the Vision 2030 transformation strategy. English football, and the EPL in particular, has become increasingly attractive to global investors thanks to the billions of dollars paid to clubs for broadcasting rights, which in turn leads to higher worldwide TV audiences and advertising sponsorships. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Stop this man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I know £28b has been mentioned as the amount that she manages, but does anyone know what actual wealth she's likely to have at her disposal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Hundreds of billions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Its going to be a knife through the heart when this eventually falls apart to nothingness and Ashley continues his sterile "no fun" approach to owning our club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Its going to be a knife through the heart when this eventually falls apart to nothingness and Ashley continues his sterile "no fun" approach to owning our club. Especially when it comes out that a deal was in the offing until Ashley moved the goalposts, insisting on free advertising, shirt sponsorship and stadium naming rights for the rest of eternity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I know £28b has been mentioned as the amount that she manages, but does anyone know what actual wealth she's likely to have at her disposal? Theoretically 28 billion. But. Thinks of her as your financial adviser or pension guy if you have one. Her job is to make your money grow. Her investors won't give a flying fuck about NUFC and probably haven't even heard of us. The one certainty is that if she invests money from the fund she manages into a football club, she is duty bound to take more money out of it than she put in. Would you want your pension fund manager sanctioning 60 million of funds to buy Kyle Walker or 35 million to buy Jordan Pickford ? Unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I know £28b has been mentioned as the amount that she manages, but does anyone know what actual wealth she's likely to have at her disposal? Theoretically 28 billion. But. Thinks of her as your financial adviser or pension guy if you have one. Her job is to make your money grow. Her investors won't give a flying fuck about NUFC and probably haven't even heard of us. The one certainty is that if she invests money from the fund she manages into a football club, she is duty bound to take more money out of it than she put in. Would you want your pension fund manager sanctioning 60 million of funds to buy Kyle Walker or 35 million to buy Jordan Pickford ? Unlikely. I get what you mean here, but I think that's only if she's working on behalf of others. What I mean is if she's buying this for herself, what's her personal wealth? Not the wealth that she manages for others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I know £28b has been mentioned as the amount that she manages, but does anyone know what actual wealth she's likely to have at her disposal? Theoretically 28 billion. But. Thinks of her as your financial adviser or pension guy if you have one. Her job is to make your money grow. Her investors won't give a flying f*** about NUFC and probably haven't even heard of us. The one certainty is that if she invests money from the fund she manages into a football club, she is duty bound to take more money out of it than she put in. Would you want your pension fund manager sanctioning 60 million of funds to buy Kyle Walker or 35 million to buy Jordan Pickford ? Unlikely. She helped broker the deal for the group who have done exactly that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 If a fund owns the club and the clubs value increases during the period of ownership and it then sells the club its a good return for investors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I'm assuming any takeover from her would include wealthy backing from her friends, in exchange for sponsorship deals etc. Someone in the background willing to be a sugar daddy for a bit of exposure. Even if she's skint, she'd be better than Ashley, providing she's not a lying cuntychops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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