Guest Haris Vuckic Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Maybes I need my glasses on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Aye hence 'fair play to them'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I think the circumstances of his death and the fact that unusually most of the crowd will have seen the man we are honouring play, will make Saturday's tribute more poignant than any other. It should be a minute's silence followed by vocal tributes. Applause only started because some crowds were deemed unable to respect silence and it saved embarrassment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 They both look older than me like and I can certainly remember Speed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 They both look older than me like and I can certainly remember Speed Thinly veiled "I look younger than my age" post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Fuck off with your thinly veiled bullshit, Ali Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I think the circumstances of his death and the fact that unusually most of the crowd will have seen the man we are honouring play, will make Saturday's tribute more poignant than any other. It should be a minute's silence followed by vocal tributes. Applause only started because some crowds were deemed unable to respect silence and it saved embarrassment. For me it should 100 % be silence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I think the circumstances of his death and the fact that unusually most of the crowd will have seen the man we are honouring play, will make Saturday's tribute more poignant than any other. It should be a minute's silence followed by vocal tributes. Applause only started because some crowds were deemed unable to respect silence and it saved embarrassment. That's an urban myth. Everton fans broke into applause when Alan Ball died, Man United did similar when Best died. Nothing to do with people acting out, they were spontaneous and seemed a better way to show respect than the tired silence. Personally I prefer it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Still sickened by this. Seems unreal today as well, just can't get my head around it. Will be a very emotional moment when we salute him on Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Fuck off with your thinly veiled bullshit, Ali Genuinely tried to resist that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I prefer an applause like, silences are canny awkward Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H09 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I think applause is better suited to those who lived long lives. Silence is better for Speed because it is a tragedy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I think the circumstances of his death and the fact that unusually most of the crowd will have seen the man we are honouring play, will make Saturday's tribute more poignant than any other. It should be a minute's silence followed by vocal tributes. Applause only started because some crowds were deemed unable to respect silence and it saved embarrassment. That's an urban myth. Everton fans broke into applause when Alan Ball died, Man United did similar when Best died. Nothing to do with people acting out, they were spontaneous and seemed a better way to show respect than the tired silence. Personally I prefer it. I prefer it for honouring sporting heroes. Wouldn't seem right doing it on Remembrance Day like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I think the circumstances of his death and the fact that unusually most of the crowd will have seen the man we are honouring play, will make Saturday's tribute more poignant than any other. It should be a minute's silence followed by vocal tributes. Applause only started because some crowds were deemed unable to respect silence and it saved embarrassment. That's an urban myth. Everton fans broke into applause when Alan Ball died, Man United did similar when Best died. Nothing to do with people acting out, they were spontaneous and seemed a better way to show respect than the tired silence. Personally I prefer it. I think silence allows a meditational moment when each person can remember the person being honoured in their own way. Of course it will only take one person to applaud for others to follow and we can't have both. I think silence followed by vocal tributes would be best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Wasn't there something a while back where Newcastle United said they would do applause when a past player died rather than silence ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonpete1892 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 The silence works perfectly for Rememberence Day weekend but having been at games where applauds have taken place, both have hit me. As people have mentioned, the majority of the crowd will have seen Speed play and the awkward feeling of clapping even though you don't really know the person won't be evident. When Bobby died, I was down at Ipswich and instead of remaining silent or applauding during the minute, many around me just sang his song - for me it was made even more special by not allowing the clapping to turn it into a sped up chant, whilst the unsettling echo to bounce around the ground made you appreciate the moment even more. The feeling I felt before that game, and during the half time tribute, will never leave me. Having watched the footage of the Swansea game yesterday and the image of people applauding alongside those in shocked silence, people should be allowed to remember him in their own way, albeit with a silence, applause or singing his name - i.e. no announcement of a minutes silence, no announcement of a minutes applause, just a minute to remember the tragic passing of a mate many didn't know personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Still feel very weird about this today. Same. Don't think it's actually hit me yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/28/article-2066812-0EF87FEB00000578-605_634x386.jpg Don't look old enough to have seen Speed play but fair play to them! They both look older than me and I barely missed a game Speed played for us from start to finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/28/article-2066812-0EF87FEB00000578-605_634x386.jpg Don't look old enough to have seen Speed play but fair play to them! They both look older than me and I barely missed a game Speed played for us from start to finish. Do you have a morning routine akin to Patrick Bateman? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 More or less, but I substitute cocoa butter for anti-aging eye balm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Personally would prefer a minutes silence on saturday. For me it is more poignant, however, I accept that both are used to pay respects and will gladly participate in which ever one the club decides to opt for. No reason why we cannot have both, even if it is an 'official' minutes silence, followed by a period of crowd led applause and a rendition of 'one gary speed' etc. This for me, same as at Swansea yesterday - think it was spot on in the circumstances. A minutes silence to reflect on the loss, then a minute (or so) applause, to show appreciation of the man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 http://www.faw.org.uk/news/FAW81615.ink A Book Remembrance has been set-up at the reception of the Football Association of Wales. The office is open from 9am to 4pm, Monday to Friday. In addition, an area has been set-aside outside as a Garden of Remembrance. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Football Association of Wales are sad to announce the death of the national team manager Gary Speed. We extend our sympathies and condolences to the family. We ask that everyone - especially the media - respects the family's privacy at this very sad time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary was appointed one year ago and was given the brief to prepare the Wales senior squad for qualification to the FIFA 2014 World Cup in Brazil. During his year in charge, the results and performances in the final European Championship qualifiers and friendly games suggested that there were strong grounds for optimism that the team could challenge for a place in the finals in three years time. As a player, Gary had an exemplary career. A versatile player who could feature in midfield as well as defence, he won 85 international caps over a period of fifteen years between 1990 – 2004 before retiring at the end of Mark Hughes’ time as manager. Many felt that he still had further international years in him, but he used the time to continue his club career, eventually making more than 750 first team appearances. Born in Mancot in Flintshire, he was a star schoolboy player and was signed by Leeds United in 1988, making his debut as a nineteen year old. His eight-year stay at Elland Road saw the club win the First Division Championship in 1982 and he also featured in a League Cup Final defeat in 1996. He then had a short spell of eighteen months with Everton after a £3.5m move, but it was with Newcastle United from 1998 onwards that he came-into his own as a senior player, with more than 200 Premier League appearances and becoming part of the side that reached FA Cup Finals in 1998 and 1999. The side managed by Bobby Robson and including Alan Shearer. It was one of the great sides from that famous club. Gary’s final clubs were Bolton Wanderers (2004-08) and Sheffield United (2008-2010). He began to mix playing with coaching and when Kevin Blackwell was sacked as Sheffield United manager at the start of the 2010-11 season, Gary was appointed as his successor. However, after only a few months in the post, he was linked to the vacant Wales managerial position and given permission to talk to the FAW. This he did and was appointed to the post in December 2010. All at the FAW admired Gary’s passion for the job and task of taking the team back up the European and World rankings. With the qualifying dates for the next World Cup group agreed only last week in Brussels, there was much to look-forward to over the next few years. That this tragedy should have overtaken someone so young and talented is a huge loss not only for his family and friends but a nation as a whole. FAW Chief Executive, Jonathan Ford said: ‘I, and all of the football family of Wales, am devastated by the news of Gary’s passing. My thoughts and prayers are with his wife and family at this difficult time.’ FAW President, Phil Pritchard added: ‘I am completely shocked by this terrible news and my thoughts are with his family. We will do whatever we can as an association to help them in this difficult time.’ All our thoughts are with his family and this sad time. I was hoping it was an online book of rememberance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I always thought he was at Everton longer than 18 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 This is still really hurting. Just thinking about all the time he had left, all the people he'd had such a great impact on and all the people he could have helped. Just a horrible reminder about how things are often not what they seem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Pulled up some plank for making a Gary Speed joke on Facebook. His response "but if i made the joke in a month's time, everyone would be like Gary who?" Fuck me. Some people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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