geordiesteve710 Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 (edited) What was odd was going on the artist formerly known as twitter last night and all you could see was Liverpool fans complaining that they'd been robbed by the referee and it was a conspiracy against them etc. I get that it's a tribal sport and that but fucking hell. Think they've got to the point of entitlement where they expect to get everything go in their favour. They really don't help themselves with the self-pity/victim tag do they 😂 Edited December 5 by geordiesteve710 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 Liverpool player doesn’t touch the ball, it deviates because Isak moved it away with the outside of his boot. There’s daylight between the 2 boots when Isak moves the ball. Was pretty close to us and the impact on Isak’s thigh was considerable. Pen all day. Also agree that Salah was different level 2nd half but he fouled Hall almost every time the ball was on its way to him. You can’t just push or nudge to unbalance your defender with your hands to gain an advantage. It’s little, it’s clever but when you do it every time it needs pulled up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 I know I have my black and white tinted glasses but I can't see any reason why VVD on Gordon isn't a red card, it is totally premeditated, needless, late, to the head and off the ball. I didn't watch the game as I was training but did the commentary team even make a fuss of it? Whilst I think Isak's should have been given as a penalty I can at least understand the VAR not over turning it, I haven't seen the shout on Diaz. Seen mixed things on the breakaway at the end, seen some say the ref blew the ball as Pope throws it and Liverpool players stop in reaction, can't verify that as I have only seen twitter videos of our lot ranting about it. Even so the injury time minutes seemed light given the stoppages in injury time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 Anyone pointed out that Kevin Macallister should’ve had a second yellow card after conceding about 5 fouls second half… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 On 05/12/2024 at 08:22, Tisd09 said: Seen mixed things on the breakaway at the end, seen some say the ref blew the ball as Pope throws it and Liverpool players stop in reaction, can't verify that as I have only seen twitter videos of our lot ranting about it. Even so the injury time minutes seemed light given the stoppages in injury time. Expand When he blew the whistle, we were 2 on 1, possibly 3 on 1 in the final 3rd, their defender was backpeddling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeT44 Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 Shocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 Absolute joke VVD on Gordon Foul on Isak Mac Allister 2 yellows Counter at the end Then they have the nerve to surround the ref when the ball hits Burn in the stomach Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boey_Jarton Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 On the full time whistle incident - I always avoid claims of conspiracy or bias because it is nonsense. However, I do think there is a element unconscious bias here - i.e. the ref stopped the game prematurely as it 'felt' right in the situation - Liverpool happy with a point and it's not a disaster result for us either. If the game is at Anfield at 3-3 and they are chasing the title, the ref absolutely makes sure every last second of the game is played. Not even suggesting it is a Liverpool bias either- refs change their approach based on the consequences of games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 On 05/12/2024 at 09:02, Boey_Jarton said: On the full time whistle incident - I always avoid claims of conspiracy or bias because it is nonsense. However, I do think there is a element unconscious bias here - i.e. the ref stopped the game prematurely as it 'felt' right in the situation - Liverpool happy with a point and it's not a disaster result for us either. If the game is at Anfield at 3-3 and they are chasing the title, the ref absolutely makes sure every last second of the game is played. Not even suggesting it is a Liverpool bias either- refs change their approach based on the consequences of games. Expand At the end - we have the ball in a 2 v 1 - ref looks at this and blows whistle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 Liverpool make that break at the end he lets it go on to a conclusion for sure. Madleys should be nowhere near Newcastle matches anyway, so many strange decisions against us, the worst of all probably the Colo sending off and penalty by the elder one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 On 05/12/2024 at 08:39, Stifler said: When he blew the whistle, we were 2 on 1, possibly 3 on 1 in the final 3rd, their defender was backpeddling. Expand I actually re-watched again in work as it was quiet and had sound on high and seemed to me the whilst went as Isak gets the ball out of his feet and in the still above you can see Liverpool defenders actively engaging FFS!! In a way I am glad I didn't watch as I would have probably been in the dog house for screaming at the tv lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 On 05/12/2024 at 08:40, BlazeT44 said: Shocking. Expand Holy fucking shit. That's scandalous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 On 05/12/2024 at 08:40, BlazeT44 said: Shocking. Expand He’d just blown by then, VVD is pointing to the ref and had stopped. He wouldn’t have covered the run through the middle. Awful refereeing. Special mention to VVD and his constant moaning to the referee and cowardly barge into Gordon. On another day his dislocates or breaks a jaw, Gordon was completely blindsided. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 He blows well before that still image, there's 2 Liverpool players already stopped playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 On 05/12/2024 at 09:01, Mikky said: Absolute joke VVD on Gordon Foul on Isak Mac Allister 2 yellows Counter at the end Then they have the nerve to surround the ref when the ball hits Burn in the stomach Expand Ignoring Salahs blatant dive about 15 seconds before he scored their 3rd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 On 05/12/2024 at 09:24, El Prontonise said: He blows well before that still image, there's 2 Liverpool players already stopped playing. Expand He blows as soon as our player receives the ball having watched it back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 On 05/12/2024 at 08:22, Tisd09 said: I know I have my black and white tinted glasses but I can't see any reason why VVD on Gordon isn't a red card, it is totally premeditated, needless, late, to the head and off the ball. I didn't watch the game as I was training but did the commentary team even make a fuss of it? Whilst I think Isak's should have been given as a penalty I can at least understand the VAR not over turning it, I haven't seen the shout on Diaz. Seen mixed things on the breakaway at the end, seen some say the ref blew the ball as Pope throws it and Liverpool players stop in reaction, can't verify that as I have only seen twitter videos of our lot ranting about it. Even so the injury time minutes seemed light given the stoppages in injury time. Expand It's one to add to the list of non-decisions I'll never really understand/agree with: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 Mac Allister was unlucky with his yellow as well, not sure many ref's give that tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo2 Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 Still waiting on an other angle of the challenge on Bruno about 30 seconds in. Refuse to believe the angle we were given is the only one available Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 On 05/12/2024 at 09:28, Mikky said: He blows as soon as our player receives the ball having watched it back Expand He does. But we were still going to get Willock in, I'd say. Even if VVD covers Wilson's run. That would have been a massive chance for a counter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 (edited) VAR are losing their shit over when to intervene and when not IMO. There’s absolutely no justification for not acting on the VVD hit on Gordon. Are they saying the referee saw it and decided it was fine? Or maybe they thought it was a yellow? Same with the penalty, are they saying it’s not a major error that the referee missed a foul in the box? How can that be the case? Makes no sense. Edited December 5 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 On 05/12/2024 at 08:20, Tsunami said: Liverpool player doesn’t touch the ball, it deviates because Isak moved it away with the outside of his boot. There’s daylight between the 2 boots when Isak moves the ball. Was pretty close to us and the impact on Isak’s thigh was considerable. Pen all day. Also agree that Salah was different level 2nd half but he fouled Hall almost every time the ball was on its way to him. You can’t just push or nudge to unbalance your defender with your hands to gain an advantage. It’s little, it’s clever but when you do it every time it needs pulled up. Expand Liverpool used to get away with this a lot under klopp as well, their hands are in constant contact the thr opposition, they also have a habit running into players in an attempt to make it look accidental. There is a difference between pressing and constant fouling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 On 05/12/2024 at 09:42, Shearergol said: It's one to add to the list of non-decisions I'll never really understand/agree with: Expand I'm struggling to understand what a foul is at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 Crazy to think VAR (as a collective) can look at VVD blindsiding Gordon and think it’s lesser of an offence than Jack Stephens gently pulling Cucarellas hair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 VVD absolutely did Gordon there like. No way that could be classed as a natural ‘coming together’ no matter how you spin it as he actively moves directly towards him 3 or 4 seconds after the balls gone. Should’ve been sent packing. Proper cunts trick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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