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All he would end up with is a different set of people having a go at him, for a slightly different reason. And I don't think you can judge the tone of his interview from a tweet by George Caulkin.

 

Anyway, who cares.

 

Who cares ?

 

Well i do, i'm not talking so much about what he's saying just how he is saying it. I want my manager to be upbeat, especially in adversity. I want him giving the team enthusiasm and guile, to go out and win against the odds.

 

Not what we have now, a fucking dour, useless tactically clueless idiot who is sending the team out as if they are already beat.

 

So yes i fucking care.

 

 

Have to agree with Bimpy on this. Pardew's guff wouldn't be so bad if the idea was to put pressure on the board, but since it will have zero impact what's the point? All it does is send out negative vibes and undermine the confidence in the squad.

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Transfer windows supporting us are no fun anymore.

 

Two of the more obvious Premiership strikers who seem to be on the market are Bent and Danny Graham so both are likely to get touted in rumours. I don't know what Villa are paying Bent but suspect it might be more than we would so that could kill that one off fairly sharpish? I like Danny Graham and would be happy to have him among our options, he's from Gateshead so maybe a Newcastle shirt might mean something other than a job to him.

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Would trade a couple of new faces for a new manager at this moment, like. Am convinced a more competent coach could get the best out of this bunch to keep us up.

 

Aye :thup: does depend on who the replacement would be though, as knowing Ashley he would probably find someone worse. :lol:

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Pardew is so negative, and not just with the team on the pitch. He is just so weird.

 

He literally can't win though, if he said he was happy with the players he had he would be absolutely ripped to shreds on here.

 

I agree with this. Obviously if he could win a bit more often, we wouldn't be having a relegation threatened season

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I can't believe that anyone thinks that Pardew, Newcastle manager Pardew, doesn't think he's responsible for how the team plays, because George Caulkin tweeted that he wanted 1 or 2 players to help us stay up.

 

I hope something happens soon, because the level of discussion on here has reached absolutely frightening depths.

 

As SBR said, every manager, if asked, would want just 1 or 2 more players. That's got nothing to do with the inescapable (and i'm sure you agree with this) fact that our players, pretty much every single one of them, has been playing below their optimal level and that as a group, they've looked disjointed and bereft of ideas. It's almost like they don't practive WITH the ball all week, like they the only time they see it is on matchday (obviously they don't but their is no pattern to our use of the ball). You can call it whatever you like, you can refer to last season or any of his previous seasons with any of his other clubs but the point is, we play like crap.

Now i think he's just trying to do what worked last season because, imo, he hasn't got the nous to turn it around. If he had, even with the injuries because he's always had enough decent ball players at his disposal and as a collective they've played like poo.

You can say we were alright sporadically but so you will be able to say that the all 3 teams that relegated this year.

FWIW, im not kneejerking because it's going badly, i called him out last year when things were going well. I thought we were very, very lucky in some games where we got big results, results the performance didn't really deserve, and i thought we'd be found out if we didn't evolve. Guess what? We didn't.

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I can't believe that anyone thinks that Pardew, Newcastle manager Pardew, doesn't think he's responsible for how the team plays, because George Caulkin tweeted that he wanted 1 or 2 players to help us stay up.

 

I hope something happens soon, because the level of discussion on here has reached absolutely frightening depths.

 

As SBR said, every manager, if asked, would want just 1 or 2 more players. That's got nothing to do with the inescapable (and i'm sure you agree with this) fact that our players, pretty much every single one of them, has been playing below their optimal level and that as a group, they've looked disjointed and bereft of ideas. It's almost like they don't practive WITH the ball all week, like they the only time they see it is on matchday (obviously they don't but their is no pattern to our use of the ball). You can call it whatever you like, you can refer to last season or any of his previous seasons with any of his other clubs but the point is, we play like crap.

Now i think he's just trying to do what worked last season because, imo, he hasn't got the nous to turn it around. If he had, even with the injuries because he's always had enough decent ball players at his disposal and as a collective they've played like poo.

You can say we were alright sporadically but so you will be able to say that the all 3 teams that relegated this year.

FWIW, im not kneejerking because it's going badly, i called him out last year when things were going well. I thought we were very, very lucky in some games where we got big results, results the performance didn't really deserve, and i thought we'd be found out if we didn't evolve. Guess what? We didn't.

 

Great post. Belongs in the Pardew thread, but I'm sure there's a few versions there already.

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I can't believe that anyone thinks that Pardew, Newcastle manager Pardew, doesn't think he's responsible for how the team plays, because George Caulkin tweeted that he wanted 1 or 2 players to help us stay up.

 

I hope something happens soon, because the level of discussion on here has reached absolutely frightening depths.

 

Of course he knows it but he just ploughs on regardless. He has stuck with same formula of "hoofball" as it's so rightly put basically all season so far. The same with Set Penises, which frankly he deserves the sack for on their own.  My point is, if he does see the flaws, he has done nothing to change them, and proof over the last 6 months that he's tactically inept and completely clueless at what to do. All of which tells you he isn't good enough.

 

You can give him 2 new players, by all means, give him 4, 6......nothing will change if his tactics and ability to change don't improve. We will just look less shit with better players trying to play his crap football.

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I can't believe that anyone thinks that Pardew, Newcastle manager Pardew, doesn't think he's responsible for how the team plays, because George Caulkin tweeted that he wanted 1 or 2 players to help us stay up.

 

I hope something happens soon, because the level of discussion on here has reached absolutely frightening depths.

 

As SBR said, every manager, if asked, would want just 1 or 2 more players. That's got nothing to do with the inescapable (and i'm sure you agree with this) fact that our players, pretty much every single one of them, has been playing below their optimal level and that as a group, they've looked disjointed and bereft of ideas. It's almost like they don't practive WITH the ball all week, like they the only time they see it is on matchday (obviously they don't but their is no pattern to our use of the ball). You can call it whatever you like, you can refer to last season or any of his previous seasons with any of his other clubs but the point is, we play like crap.

Now i think he's just trying to do what worked last season because, imo, he hasn't got the nous to turn it around. If he had, even with the injuries because he's always had enough decent ball players at his disposal and as a collective they've played like poo.

You can say we were alright sporadically but so you will be able to say that the all 3 teams that relegated this year.

FWIW, im not kneejerking because it's going badly, i called him out last year when things were going well. I thought we were very, very lucky in some games where we got big results, results the performance didn't really deserve, and i thought we'd be found out if we didn't evolve. Guess what? We didn't.

 

Great post. Belongs in the Pardew thread, but I'm sure there's a few versions there already.

 

It's all perfectly reasonable, but my post was in response to people claiming that Pardew doesn't think he's responsible for our play. Which is a mad assertion IMO.

 

I wasn't saying anything about whether he does or doesn't have the ability to improve things.

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That Wraith clown reckons Darren Bent.

 

Transfer windows supporting us are no fun anymore.

 

Two of the more obvious Premiership strikers who seem to be on the market are Bent and Danny Graham so both are likely to get touted in rumours. I don't know what Villa are paying Bent but suspect it might be more than we would so that could kill that one off fairly sharpish? I like Danny Graham and would be happy to have him among our options, he's from Gateshead so maybe a Newcastle shirt might mean something other than a job to him.

 

Mick dodah, said on total sport that Graham was way down on our list, which doesn't bode well in trying to sign him. Personally i don't think we are even in for him. Bent = meh imo.

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I can't believe that anyone thinks that Pardew, Newcastle manager Pardew, doesn't think he's responsible for how the team plays, because George Caulkin tweeted that he wanted 1 or 2 players to help us stay up.

 

I hope something happens soon, because the level of discussion on here has reached absolutely frightening depths.

 

As SBR said, every manager, if asked, would want just 1 or 2 more players. That's got nothing to do with the inescapable (and i'm sure you agree with this) fact that our players, pretty much every single one of them, has been playing below their optimal level and that as a group, they've looked disjointed and bereft of ideas. It's almost like they don't practive WITH the ball all week, like they the only time they see it is on matchday (obviously they don't but their is no pattern to our use of the ball). You can call it whatever you like, you can refer to last season or any of his previous seasons with any of his other clubs but the point is, we play like crap.

Now i think he's just trying to do what worked last season because, imo, he hasn't got the nous to turn it around. If he had, even with the injuries because he's always had enough decent ball players at his disposal and as a collective they've played like poo.

You can say we were alright sporadically but so you will be able to say that the all 3 teams that relegated this year.

FWIW, im not kneejerking because it's going badly, i called him out last year when things were going well. I thought we were very, very lucky in some games where we got big results, results the performance didn't really deserve, and i thought we'd be found out if we didn't evolve. Guess what? We didn't.

 

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I can't believe that anyone thinks that Pardew, Newcastle manager Pardew, doesn't think he's responsible for how the team plays, because George Caulkin tweeted that he wanted 1 or 2 players to help us stay up.

 

I hope something happens soon, because the level of discussion on here has reached absolutely frightening depths.

 

As SBR said, every manager, if asked, would want just 1 or 2 more players. That's got nothing to do with the inescapable (and i'm sure you agree with this) fact that our players, pretty much every single one of them, has been playing below their optimal level and that as a group, they've looked disjointed and bereft of ideas. It's almost like they don't practive WITH the ball all week, like they the only time they see it is on matchday (obviously they don't but their is no pattern to our use of the ball). You can call it whatever you like, you can refer to last season or any of his previous seasons with any of his other clubs but the point is, we play like crap.

Now i think he's just trying to do what worked last season because, imo, he hasn't got the nous to turn it around. If he had, even with the injuries because he's always had enough decent ball players at his disposal and as a collective they've played like poo.

You can say we were alright sporadically but so you will be able to say that the all 3 teams that relegated this year.

FWIW, im not kneejerking because it's going badly, i called him out last year when things were going well. I thought we were very, very lucky in some games where we got big results, results the performance didn't really deserve, and i thought we'd be found out if we didn't evolve. Guess what? We didn't.

 

Great post. Belongs in the Pardew thread, but I'm sure there's a few versions there already.

 

It's all perfectly reasonable, but my post was in response to people claiming that Pardew doesn't think he's responsible for our play. Which is a mad assertion IMO.

 

I wasn't saying anything about whether he does or doesn't have the ability to improve things.

 

I wasn't really addressing your post, my response was to Lotus. FWIW I think your views are usually pretty much on the mark on the whole.

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That Wraith clown reckons Darren Bent.

 

Transfer windows supporting us are no fun anymore.

 

Two of the more obvious Premiership strikers who seem to be on the market are Bent and Danny Graham so both are likely to get touted in rumours. I don't know what Villa are paying Bent but suspect it might be more than we would so that could kill that one off fairly sharpish? I like Danny Graham and would be happy to have him among our options, he's from Gateshead so maybe a Newcastle shirt might mean something other than a job to him.

 

Mick dodah, said on total sport that Graham was way down on our list, which doesn't bode well in trying to sign him. Personally i don't think we are even in for him. Bent = meh imo.

 

Bent isn't even on the radar, wrong type of player completely. As for Graham being way down our list, I just hope whoever is way up our list is going to end up here this month. Otherwise that list is going to get shoved up someone's jacksy :lol:

 

 

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I can't believe that anyone thinks that Pardew, Newcastle manager Pardew, doesn't think he's responsible for how the team plays, because George Caulkin tweeted that he wanted 1 or 2 players to help us stay up.

 

I hope something happens soon, because the level of discussion on here has reached absolutely frightening depths.

 

As SBR said, every manager, if asked, would want just 1 or 2 more players. That's got nothing to do with the inescapable (and i'm sure you agree with this) fact that our players, pretty much every single one of them, has been playing below their optimal level and that as a group, they've looked disjointed and bereft of ideas. It's almost like they don't practive WITH the ball all week, like they the only time they see it is on matchday (obviously they don't but their is no pattern to our use of the ball). You can call it whatever you like, you can refer to last season or any of his previous seasons with any of his other clubs but the point is, we play like crap.

Now i think he's just trying to do what worked last season because, imo, he hasn't got the nous to turn it around. If he had, even with the injuries because he's always had enough decent ball players at his disposal and as a collective they've played like poo.

You can say we were alright sporadically but so you will be able to say that the all 3 teams that relegated this year.

FWIW, im not kneejerking because it's going badly, i called him out last year when things were going well. I thought we were very, very lucky in some games where we got big results, results the performance didn't really deserve, and i thought we'd be found out if we didn't evolve. Guess what? We didn't.

 

Great post. Belongs in the Pardew thread, but I'm sure there's a few versions there already.

 

It's all perfectly reasonable, but my post was in response to people claiming that Pardew doesn't think he's responsible for our play. Which is a mad assertion IMO.

 

I wasn't saying anything about whether he does or doesn't have the ability to improve things.

 

Being responsible and having the ability to change things when they go wrong. Do they not go hand in hand though ?

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I can't believe that anyone thinks that Pardew, Newcastle manager Pardew, doesn't think he's responsible for how the team plays, because George Caulkin tweeted that he wanted 1 or 2 players to help us stay up.

 

I hope something happens soon, because the level of discussion on here has reached absolutely frightening depths.

 

As SBR said, every manager, if asked, would want just 1 or 2 more players. That's got nothing to do with the inescapable (and i'm sure you agree with this) fact that our players, pretty much every single one of them, has been playing below their optimal level and that as a group, they've looked disjointed and bereft of ideas. It's almost like they don't practive WITH the ball all week, like they the only time they see it is on matchday (obviously they don't but their is no pattern to our use of the ball). You can call it whatever you like, you can refer to last season or any of his previous seasons with any of his other clubs but the point is, we play like crap.

Now i think he's just trying to do what worked last season because, imo, he hasn't got the nous to turn it around. If he had, even with the injuries because he's always had enough decent ball players at his disposal and as a collective they've played like poo.

You can say we were alright sporadically but so you will be able to say that the all 3 teams that relegated this year.

FWIW, im not kneejerking because it's going badly, i called him out last year when things were going well. I thought we were very, very lucky in some games where we got big results, results the performance didn't really deserve, and i thought we'd be found out if we didn't evolve. Guess what? We didn't.

 

Great post. Belongs in the Pardew thread, but I'm sure there's a few versions there already.

 

It's all perfectly reasonable, but my post was in response to people claiming that Pardew doesn't think he's responsible for our play. Which is a mad assertion IMO.

 

I wasn't saying anything about whether he does or doesn't have the ability to improve things.

 

Being responsible and having the ability to change things when they go wrong. Do they not go hand in hand though ?

 

In a way. Either way, that wasn't what my post was about.

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That Wraith clown reckons Darren Bent.

 

Transfer windows supporting us are no fun anymore.

 

Two of the more obvious Premiership strikers who seem to be on the market are Bent and Danny Graham so both are likely to get touted in rumours. I don't know what Villa are paying Bent but suspect it might be more than we would so that could kill that one off fairly sharpish? I like Danny Graham and would be happy to have him among our options, he's from Gateshead so maybe a Newcastle shirt might mean something other than a job to him.

 

Mick dodah, said on total sport that Graham was way down on our list, which doesn't bode well in trying to sign him. Personally i don't think we are even in for him. Bent = meh imo.

 

Bent isn't even on the radar, wrong type of player completely. As for Graham being way down our list, I just hope whoever is way up our list is going to end up here this month. Otherwise that list is going to get shoved up someone's jacksy :lol:

 

 

 

Aye, our list though seem like they could be written on a stamp :lol:

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That Wraith clown reckons Darren Bent.

 

Transfer windows supporting us are no fun anymore.

 

Two of the more obvious Premiership strikers who seem to be on the market are Bent and Danny Graham so both are likely to get touted in rumours. I don't know what Villa are paying Bent but suspect it might be more than we would so that could kill that one off fairly sharpish? I like Danny Graham and would be happy to have him among our options, he's from Gateshead so maybe a Newcastle shirt might mean something other than a job to him.

 

Mick dodah, said on total sport that Graham was way down on our list, which doesn't bode well in trying to sign him. Personally i don't think we are even in for him. Bent = meh imo.

 

Bent isn't even on the radar, wrong type of player completely. As for Graham being way down our list, I just hope whoever is way up our list is going to end up here this month. Otherwise that list is going to get shoved up someone's jacksy :lol:

 

 

 

Aye, our list though seem like they could be written on a stamp :lol:

 

And have room for the Lord's Prayer.

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I can't believe that anyone thinks that Pardew, Newcastle manager Pardew, doesn't think he's responsible for how the team plays, because George Caulkin tweeted that he wanted 1 or 2 players to help us stay up.

 

I hope something happens soon, because the level of discussion on here has reached absolutely frightening depths.

 

As SBR said, every manager, if asked, would want just 1 or 2 more players. That's got nothing to do with the inescapable (and i'm sure you agree with this) fact that our players, pretty much every single one of them, has been playing below their optimal level and that as a group, they've looked disjointed and bereft of ideas. It's almost like they don't practive WITH the ball all week, like they the only time they see it is on matchday (obviously they don't but their is no pattern to our use of the ball). You can call it whatever you like, you can refer to last season or any of his previous seasons with any of his other clubs but the point is, we play like crap.

Now i think he's just trying to do what worked last season because, imo, he hasn't got the nous to turn it around. If he had, even with the injuries because he's always had enough decent ball players at his disposal and as a collective they've played like poo.

You can say we were alright sporadically but so you will be able to say that the all 3 teams that relegated this year.

FWIW, im not kneejerking because it's going badly, i called him out last year when things were going well. I thought we were very, very lucky in some games where we got big results, results the performance didn't really deserve, and i thought we'd be found out if we didn't evolve. Guess what? We didn't.

 

Great post. Belongs in the Pardew thread, but I'm sure there's a few versions there already.

 

It's all perfectly reasonable, but my post was in response to people claiming that Pardew doesn't think he's responsible for our play. Which is a mad assertion IMO.

 

I wasn't saying anything about whether he does or doesn't have the ability to improve things.

 

I think the limit of his sense of responsibilty is that he'll want more players.

 

I think he's of the philosophy that you shouldn't over coach attacking players, just let them do what's natural. His side is the organising of the defence. It's a good philosophy if it fits the players you have. Rather than adapt, i think he wants more players and if that doesn't work, he'll want more players.

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I can't believe that anyone thinks that Pardew, Newcastle manager Pardew, doesn't think he's responsible for how the team plays, because George Caulkin tweeted that he wanted 1 or 2 players to help us stay up.

 

I hope something happens soon, because the level of discussion on here has reached absolutely frightening depths.

 

What will your reaction be if nothing happens Ian ? Or we bring in players that won't help with our problems at CB and CF ? Again not seeing any answers from you, just happy to criticise others that criticise the club. Is your solution to everything just to sit on our hands don't say a word, let them get on with it and then ho-hum not much we could do given the circumstances, when the envitable lack of investment happens ?

 

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I can't believe that anyone thinks that Pardew, Newcastle manager Pardew, doesn't think he's responsible for how the team plays, because George Caulkin tweeted that he wanted 1 or 2 players to help us stay up.

 

I hope something happens soon, because the level of discussion on here has reached absolutely frightening depths.

 

What will your reaction be if nothing happens Ian ? Or we bring in players that won't help with our problems at CB and CF ? Again not seeing any answers from you, just happy to criticise others that criticise the club. Is your solution to everything just to sit on our hands don't say a word, let them get on with it and then ho-hum not much we could do given the circumstances, when the envitable lack of investment happens ?

 

 

Come on man, the people who criticise the club constantly don't come up with any answers either. Why should I have the magic formula? We don't even know what we're debating any more half the time, just extremely vague hatred towards Mike Ashley expressed through individual threads.

 

If nothing happens in this window I will be very disappointed, and I will criticise the club. I have said many times that we desperately need a CB and a CF.

 

It's depressing that I have to constantly explain that I don't think everything is amazing, when I've never said anything of the sort.

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I can't believe that anyone thinks that Pardew, Newcastle manager Pardew, doesn't think he's responsible for how the team plays, because George Caulkin tweeted that he wanted 1 or 2 players to help us stay up.

 

I hope something happens soon, because the level of discussion on here has reached absolutely frightening depths.

 

What will your reaction be if nothing happens Ian ? Or we bring in players that won't help with our problems at CB and CF ? Again not seeing any answers from you, just happy to criticise others that criticise the club. Is your solution to everything just to sit on our hands don't say a word, let them get on with it and then ho-hum not much we could do given the circumstances, when the envitable lack of investment happens ?

 

If he's backed and we bring in the right players for the right positions, get a break in injuries, and we still play like shit and don't even look like we care - then I'd be astonished if there was a single person on this board that still backed him, including Ian.

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