Guest bimpy474 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Also were already one outfield player down with Simpson gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Perch being moved on according to the Mirror.... silly decision if true, he has been mostly dependable, solid back up in a number of positions. A better Aaron Hughes, plenty of others clogging up the team before him. Better than Aaron Hughes, good grief. Perch is a shocking footballer, who offers zero protection when playing in midfield. Yep, Aaron Hughes was a good utility player not anything more. Thats harsh on Perch imo, he shouldn't be starting but he gives us his all and has had more good games than bad, including a plethora of important blocks inside our box. The his worst games have come this season with equally terrible performances if not worse surrounding him, easy scapegoat when "better" players get off lighter. Did you watch us finish 4th, 3rd and 5th with Aaron Hughes at right back then? Perch is a clogger, simple as. I did and he was a reliable squad player we shouldn't have let go. He needed replacing in the team however and wasn't good enough to be starting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I liked Aaron Hughes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Well we should've learnt not to believe any story about the club unless its from a direct, quoted source. And even then, it's probably bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 The thought of the Perchinho fanclub being upset about this makes me smile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Also were already one outfield player down with Simpson gone. Not bothered about that he was already replaced in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Aye, I'd take Debuchy, Santon, Haidara and probably Ferguson as cover for the full-back spots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Anita too, to Pardew's despair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 So I guess we're counting on the likes of Sammy and Fergie to be properly ready for the PL then? I'm sure their loan spells did them some good but if things go to s*** again and we throw them straight in amongst it again, can see their confidence dipping a bit (especially if Pardew decides to have a go at the youth players when things aren't going well). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Aye, I'd take Debuchy, Santon, Haidara and probably Ferguson as cover for the full-back spots. I was disappointed Tavs looked so nervous and essentially out of depth when he played for us. Thought he we come through and be cover at RB, not so confident now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 So I guess we're counting on the likes of Sammy and Fergie to be properly ready for the PL then? I'm sure their loan spells did them some good but if things go to s*** again and we throw them straight in amongst it again, can see their confidence dipping a bit. Expect some quotes from Pardew about how great they can be and its a big season for them. In fact he has already talked about how next year will be big for them and they got lots of experience from this year to grow. Six months earlier didn't he said they were far from ready, not to be relied on and in fact one of the main reasons we were where we were at Christmas. Guess 9 months will change every young player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 To be fair, they're both at the age now where they should be close to the first-team at a Premier League team if they're ever going to make it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Also were already one outfield player down with Simpson gone. Not bothered about that he was already replaced in January. And if Debuchy gets an injury, this is the sort thing the club should have learnt by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Sammy's only here because of his useless brother, let's not pretend it's any different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 So I guess we're counting on the likes of Sammy and Fergie to be properly ready for the PL then? I'm sure their loan spells did them some good but if things go to s*** again and we throw them straight in amongst it again, can see their confidence dipping a bit. Expect some quotes from Pardew about how great they can be and its a big season for them. In fact he has already talked about how next year will be big for them and they got lots of experience from this year to grow. Six months earlier didn't he said they were far from ready, not to be relied on and in fact one of the main reasons we were where we were at Christmas. Guess 9 months will change every young player. That's the thing, I have no confidence in Pardew in nurturing the youth players - especially not after him having a go at them this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 A striker and a CB? That it? They haven't got a fucking clue. It took Pardew 37 games to ensure survival which included buying him half a new team in January ffs. Adding just 2 quality players to this pool of players could be fine if the manager had a clue, but he hasn't. If they genuinely think that's enough to get through next season then they're retarded, spending big on players means nothing if the bloke who manages them hasn't got a clue. It's the epitome of false economy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Sammy's only here because of his useless brother, let's not pretend it's any different. You don't think he's got PL potential? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I don't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Nah, I dont see it with any of our kids. Just Bigi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Not even as cover? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Also were already one outfield player down with Simpson gone. Not bothered about that he was already replaced in January. And if Debuchy gets an injury, this is the sort thing the club should have learnt by now. Santon RB and Haidara LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 So I guess we're counting on the likes of Sammy and Fergie to be properly ready for the PL then? I'm sure their loan spells did them some good but if things go to s*** again and we throw them straight in amongst it again, can see their confidence dipping a bit. Expect some quotes from Pardew about how great they can be and its a big season for them. In fact he has already talked about how next year will be big for them and they got lots of experience from this year to grow. Six months earlier didn't he said they were far from ready, not to be relied on and in fact one of the main reasons we were where we were at Christmas. Guess 9 months will change every young player. That's the thing, I have no confidence in Pardew in nurturing the youth players - especially not after him having a go at them this season. I think Fergie can be a good squad player for us, it's tough, all of the younger players need to get a run of games but they won't get it here. Pardew will just make them worse if they improve anyways. We have Fergie, Inman, Vuckic, Tavernier, Sammy, Dummett, Richardson and Newton all around the same age where they have to be getting regular games and showing they have what it takes to make an impact here. I don't think we ever put enough faith in playing young players, or we just don't rate them, if its the latter why are they still here? Arguably Gosling, Obertan and Amalfitano are past this point but remain. Hopefully they will all be out on loan next year just so we can get a decent fee for some of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Sammy's only here because of his useless brother, let's not pretend it's any different. You don't think he's got PL potential? Well, Jonas Gutierrez has been starting PL games for the best part of 5 years, so owt's possible. Don't see anything remotely exciting or impressive about him, though, other than looking somewhat like a Nigerian Peter Crouch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 A striker and a CB? That it? They haven't got a f***ing clue. It took Pardew 37 games to ensure survival which included buying him half a new team in January ffs. Adding just 2 quality players to this pool of players could be fine if the manager had a clue, but he hasn't. If they genuinely think that's enough to get through next season then they're retarded, spending big on players means nothing if the bloke who manages them hasn't got a clue. It's the epitome of false economy. "So how many players do you need Alan..." "..well following our end of season meeting you know depth was a big problem, I need at least four first teamers and a couple of squad players." "You can have two.'' "..I need four or five, the squad depth.." "..you can have two...and your job Alan." Perfect time for them to throw Pardew under the bus. He is powerless to do everything they ask, now they have given him a last chance as boss. FWIW there is no way we will just sign two players this summer. Closer to one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Not even as cover? I'd much rather he wasn't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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