healthyaddiction Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I think he was saying Anita/Tiote + Sissoko and Marveaux as a 3 man centre mid not as Sissoko and Marveaux out wide. And if we sold Cabaye and went with that where would the midfield depth be? You'd probably have: Anita Sissoko Marveaux As first choice and then: Tiote Bigi Perch/Vuckic? As second choice. That's a shocking second string. We need to buy a quality midfielder, not sell one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Tiote's crap, Anita's a wrong fit and Marveaux has a terrible injury record. Anyone advocating selling Cabaye without replacement needs a slap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 As a side note, while looking at our centre mid options on .co.uk I notice Sammy isn't listed as a player. UNLEASH THE CONSPIRACISTS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Underpants Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Tiote's crap, Anita's a wrong fit and Marveaux has a terrible injury record. Anyone advocating selling Cabaye without replacement needs a slap. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Moody Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I think he was saying Anita/Tiote + Sissoko and Marveaux as a 3 man centre mid not as Sissoko and Marveaux out wide. And if we sold Cabaye and went with that where would the midfield depth be? You'd probably have: Anita Sissoko Marveaux As first choice and then: Tiote Bigi Perch/Vuckic? As second choice. That's a shocking second string. We need to buy a quality midfielder, not sell one. I'd probably stick Jonas here in a second string midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I don't even think 'replace' would be the correct term, given that Cabaye has never been given a certified role within the team. I believe a balanced, effective midfield can be conjured from a squad of Sissoko, Anita, Marveaux, Tiote, Bigi and Vuckic - and as fond of him as I am as a technical footballer, I honestly couldn't pin-point what we'd be losing if Cabaye went (through no real fault of the player, tbh). If the money was spent elsewhere on players that will suit whatever system Pardew plans to enforce next season, I could live without a 'significant' CM coming in. It wouldn't be my first choice, but if it went on a couple of effective orthodox wingers, for example, I couldn't really complain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Load of absolute rubbish, Yorkie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Load of absolute rubbish, Yorkie. There's that charm again. What's the point in wasting money on another Cabaye, when the one we've lost could never consistently contribute? We might as well draw a line through the idea, re-evaluate what players will work with this manager, and do something more suitable with the money received. If Pardew wants to play more rigidly, don't go and get another Cabaye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I can categorically state that every single player in our team is not perfect. discuss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I am certain everyone was talking about how much we improved when Cabaye returned from injury. In my opinion he will be greatly missed, will be very difficult to replace and i'd like our first choice midfield to be: Cabaye Sissoko Marveux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I am certain everyone was talking about how much we improved when Cabaye returned from injury. In my opinion he will be greatly missed, will be very difficult to replace and i'd like our first choice midfield to be: Cabaye Sissoko Marveux I don't want us to sell Cabaye, not by any stretch of the imagination. I think the guy's a supremely talented player. But we're in a period where the management harbours a completely different set of footballing principles to what we do. In an ideal world, we'd have a different manager who could make use of the talent he's got at his disposal - but that isn't happening. If you discount 11/12 as an apparent anomaly, compare and contrast the season before and the season after: Pardew worked better with a dynamic based on percentages, rigidity and a modicum of flair. He isn't going to produce that with the squad he's got so, if he's still the manager, he might as well make the best out of his preferred strategy. I just don't see the point in us making a like-for-like switch when that player was never utilised to their full potential, or to the maximum benefit to the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Tiote/Cabaye were one of the best pairings 2 years ago in a 442 Now they are both crap and expendable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Moody Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Krul Zouma Colo Yanga-Mbiwa Sissoko Anita HBA Cabaye Marveaux Aubameyang Cisse Sorted. Not really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Tiote/Cabaye were one of the best pairings 2 years ago in a 442 Now they are both crap and expendable One of em is. imo. Well crap may be a bit harsh. Certainly not anyone we should be basing a midfield around at any rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Tiote's crap, Anita's a wrong fit and Marveaux has a terrible injury record. Anyone advocating selling Cabaye without replacement needs a slap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Tiote's crap, Anita's a wrong fit and Marveaux has a terrible injury record. Anyone advocating selling Cabaye without replacement needs a slap. If Anita's a wrong fit, then in what position is Cabaye a right fit in your ideal team? Both are on the smaller side to be playing as a defensive midfielder and neither is really suited to getting forward into attacking positions. Cabaye would be a best fit in a continental side for me, one that sat back and counter attacked with him being a deep lying midfielder who could pick the passes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Think of Cabaye goes there could well be something in the Leroy Fer rumours - be a very dynamic midfield 3 with him, Sissoko and Anita/Tiote in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Tiote's crap, Anita's a wrong fit and Marveaux has a terrible injury record. Anyone advocating selling Cabaye without replacement needs a slap. If Anita's a wrong fit, then in what position is Cabaye a right fit in your ideal team? Both are on the smaller side to be playing as a defensive midfielder and neither is really suited to getting forward into attacking positions. Cabaye would be a best fit in a continental side for me, one that sat back and counter attacked with him being a deep lying midfielder who could pick the passes. I quite agree that Cabaye is far better suited to other leagues. In the PL for us he'd have the deepest midfield role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Think of Cabaye goes there could well be something in the Leroy Fer rumours - be a very dynamic midfield 3 with him, Sissoko and Anita/Tiote in there. Is dynamic a new word for no creativity? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Think of Cabaye goes there could well be something in the Leroy Fer rumours - be a very dynamic midfield 3 with him, Sissoko and Anita/Tiote in there. Didn't Fer fail a medical in January at Everton? Would be surprised if we'd risk £8m or whatever he'd cost on a crock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 If Cabaye is better suited to continental football and we can get a decent price for him, let’s sell and bring in someone more in line with what we need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 If Cabaye goes, and I hope he doesn't, the best bet, imo, would be to play Anita as a deep-lying playmaker, a role he's best suited for, with Sissoko as one of two box-to-box central midfielders protecting him (we'd need to get another). Maybe Fer could be that player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 If Cabaye goes, and I hope he doesn't, the best bet, imo, would be to play Anita as a deep-lying playmaker, a role he's best suited for, with Sissoko as one of two box-to-box central midfielders protecting him (we'd need to get another). Maybe Fer could be that player. Like that will happen under Pardew. Agree though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 If Cabaye goes, and I hope he doesn't, the best bet, imo, would be to play Anita as a deep-lying playmaker, a role he's best suited for, with Sissoko as one of two box-to-box central midfielders protecting him (we'd need to get another). Maybe Fer could be that player. Like that will happen under Pardew. Agree though. Who am I kidding, we'd lose Cabaye and have a midfield three of Sissoko-Jonas-Tiote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I thought sissoko's best position was defensive midfielder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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