Teasy Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Feels obvious to me that there is no cash been given yet for transfers. It's quite clear that when Ashley is willing to spend money then we go out and get who we want quite efficiently. (january signings) So far we appear to be faffing around waiting for someone to be sold before buying anyone ourselves. Agree with this for the most part. Think we're bargain hunting this summer unless we cash in on Cisse, Cabaye, etc. Its ridiculous and an absolute joke a club of our stature is rummaging in bargain bins and not utilising the extra TV revenue...FFS southampton and swansea have just spent 12.5 and 13m on a player. We should not only be able to compete but outmuscle these teams in the transfer market I have just lost all interest in this football club recently and im just full of apathy.. we all know its going to be a shit season knocked out of both cups early and a few spankings along the way. and the same old shite excuses will be rolled out The extra TV money is due next year. Obviously some clubs are willing to spend what they don't yet have, but for better or worse its been clear forever and a day that Ashley isn't. Not saying we shouldn't be willing to within reason, just so many people seem to believe this extra TV money has already been paid. I think what we spend this summer will come down to whatever revenue we have left for the year after expenses, what players we sell or what bargains come up (think we're always willing to spend something from future revenue if its seen as a bargain). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Feels obvious to me that there is no cash been given yet for transfers. It's quite clear that when Ashley is willing to spend money then we go out and get who we want quite efficiently. (january signings) So far we appear to be faffing around waiting for someone to be sold before buying anyone ourselves. Agree with this for the most part. Think we're bargain hunting this summer unless we cash in on Cisse, Cabaye, etc. This is just an assumption based on nothing though right? Yes, and I don't think I portrayed it as anything different. Just the feeling I get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 The simple fact is we finished 16th last season. While other teams have attempted to strengthen where they can. We so far have let some squad players go and signed zero senior players and according to Pardew are only looking at signing 1 maybe 2 . With doubts cast over the futures of Cabaye and Cisse in-particular also. So we were the 5th worst team, take away the 3 that went down that leaves Sunderland who have completely revamped their squad (good or bad can be debated but they are trying). So 2nd worst team out of 17 with no signings so far and the same manager who oversaw that season and now with the added situation of Kinnear being involved with the club again, we are a mess. So I am praying the 3 that come up all struggle because at the moment I fear for us. Especially as we will need to pick ourselves up after what could be a battering on the opening weekend. Thr funny thing is that all we may require is a 2-3 quality signings and everything could be looking better again. Shame I just can't see it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Despite my pessimism in regards to our transfer activity this summer I've actually become fairly confident about our season in the last 10 days or so. Assuming we don't sell any of our best players we still have a really good first 11 with decent depth in a couple positions. Obviously very thin up front, but it's the one area where I think we'll get at least one body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 for all we could improve in every position (as could all clubs really) i'd be happy with no outgoings, a remy/aubameyang type, for the starting line up, after that it's squad stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WashyGeordie Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 The simple fact is we finished 16th last season. While other teams have attempted to strengthen where they can. We so far have let some squad players go and signed zero senior players and according to Pardew are only looking at signing 1 maybe 2 . With doubts cast over the futures of Cabaye and Cisse in-particular also. So we were the 5th worst team, take away the 3 that went down that leaves Sunderland who have completely revamped their squad (good or bad can be debated but they are trying). So 2nd worst team out of 17 with no signings so far and the same manager who oversaw that season and now with the added situation of Kinnear being involved with the club again, we are a mess. So I am praying the 3 that come up all struggle because at the moment I fear for us. Especially as we will need to pick ourselves up after what could be a battering on the opening weekend. Thr funny thing is that all we may require is a 2-3 quality signings and everything could be looking better again. Shame I just can't see it I know Swansea are showing more ambition compared to us for getting into the Europa league. But the clubs who are buying now, didn't really buy anyone in January, so if you look at it like that, the players we signed in Jan have already had the "settling in" period... I think if we sign another 2 quality players (atleast 1 striker) I'd be content/happy though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Despite my pessimism in regards to our transfer activity this summer I've actually become fairly confident about our season in the last 10 days or so. Assuming we don't sell any of our best players we still have a really good first 11 with decent depth in a couple positions. Obviously very thin up front, but it's the one area where I think we'll get at least one body. The thing was though, we had a good first 11 out for nearly all of last season certainly compared to the teams around us, but the tactics and set piece routines counteracted it. We do have good players, but ive no confidence in the manager, and tbh, the coaches, getting the best out of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 There are no transfer rumours concerning our club at the moment. None, bugger all, zilch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alexinho Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Despite my pessimism in regards to our transfer activity this summer I've actually become fairly confident about our season in the last 10 days or so. Assuming we don't sell any of our best players we still have a really good first 11 with decent depth in a couple positions. Obviously very thin up front, but it's the one area where I think we'll get at least one body. The thing was though, we had a good first 11 out for nearly all of last season certainly compared to the teams around us, but the tactics and set piece routines counteracted it. We do have good players, but ive no confidence in the manager, and tbh, the coaches, getting the best out of them. Agree, I'm afraid... Cabaye, Ba,Cisse, Tiote and the rest worked well together - but now that AP got the time to have an influence he spoils it! We'd ve better of letting everyone (not Tiote) act on instinct! NO manager at all, and let some Random Dude pick the team... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Despite my pessimism in regards to our transfer activity this summer I've actually become fairly confident about our season in the last 10 days or so. Assuming we don't sell any of our best players we still have a really good first 11 with decent depth in a couple positions. Obviously very thin up front, but it's the one area where I think we'll get at least one body. The thing was though, we had a good first 11 out for nearly all of last season certainly compared to the teams around us, but the tactics and set piece routines counteracted it. We do have good players, but ive no confidence in the manager, and tbh, the coaches, getting the best out of them. Agree, I'm afraid... Cabaye, Ba,Cisse, Tiote and the rest worked well together - but now that AP got the time to have an influence he spoils it! We'd ve better of letting everyone (not Tiote) act on instinct! NO manager at all, and let some Random Dude pick the team... Granted, last night was the first friendly, but the set pieces were the same. Vuckic took free kick on half way line, everyone up, and floated straight to the keeper. We should be working on new set piece routines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 totally agree with this, are very poor first half but towards the end of games when people like colo take over we look like a quality outfit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Despite my pessimism in regards to our transfer activity this summer I've actually become fairly confident about our season in the last 10 days or so. Assuming we don't sell any of our best players we still have a really good first 11 with decent depth in a couple positions. Obviously very thin up front, but it's the one area where I think we'll get at least one body. The thing was though, we had a good first 11 out for nearly all of last season certainly compared to the teams around us, but the tactics and set piece routines counteracted it. We do have good players, but ive no confidence in the manager, and tbh, the coaches, getting the best out of them. Agree, I'm afraid... Cabaye, Ba,Cisse, Tiote and the rest worked well together - but now that AP got the time to have an influence he spoils it! We'd ve better of letting everyone (not Tiote) act on instinct! NO manager at all, and let some Random Dude pick the team... Granted, last night was the first friendly, but the set pieces were the same. Vuckic took free kick on half way line, everyone up, and floated straight to the keeper. We should be working on new set piece routines. tbf the majority of free kicks from about 40yds are like that from most clubs. didn't realise so much till around christmas time when so much was made of it on here then took more notice of other clubs. most clubs if it outside shooting distance is a pretty aimless lump to the back of the box, only arsenal not really doing it most of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 If Vuckic is taking them from half way that is at least an improvement on the keeper taking them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alexinho Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 The set pieces i the same now as when we had Carroll, but now we don't have this hooligan to bully the defenders... Same tactic, different players = not clever at all.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Despite my pessimism in regards to our transfer activity this summer I've actually become fairly confident about our season in the last 10 days or so. Assuming we don't sell any of our best players we still have a really good first 11 with decent depth in a couple positions. Obviously very thin up front, but it's the one area where I think we'll get at least one body. The thing was though, we had a good first 11 out for nearly all of last season certainly compared to the teams around us, but the tactics and set piece routines counteracted it. We do have good players, but ive no confidence in the manager, and tbh, the coaches, getting the best out of them. Agree, I'm afraid... Cabaye, Ba,Cisse, Tiote and the rest worked well together - but now that AP got the time to have an influence he spoils it! We'd ve better of letting everyone (not Tiote) act on instinct! NO manager at all, and let some Random Dude pick the team... Granted, last night was the first friendly, but the set pieces were the same. Vuckic took free kick on half way line, everyone up, and floated straight to the keeper. We should be working on new set piece routines. tbf the majority of free kicks from about 40yds are like that from most clubs. didn't realise so much till around christmas time when so much was made of it on here then took more notice of other clubs. most clubs if it outside shooting distance is a pretty aimless lump to the back of the box, only arsenal not really doing it most of the time. Depends on your definition of lump. Any sort of crossed ball could be classed as so but a floated cross a la NUFC is nowhere near as threatening as a whipped cross or flatter cross. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Despite my pessimism in regards to our transfer activity this summer I've actually become fairly confident about our season in the last 10 days or so. Assuming we don't sell any of our best players we still have a really good first 11 with decent depth in a couple positions. Obviously very thin up front, but it's the one area where I think we'll get at least one body. The thing was though, we had a good first 11 out for nearly all of last season certainly compared to the teams around us, but the tactics and set piece routines counteracted it. We do have good players, but ive no confidence in the manager, and tbh, the coaches, getting the best out of them. Agree, I'm afraid... Cabaye, Ba,Cisse, Tiote and the rest worked well together - but now that AP got the time to have an influence he spoils it! We'd ve better of letting everyone (not Tiote) act on instinct! NO manager at all, and let some Random Dude pick the team... Granted, last night was the first friendly, but the set pieces were the same. Vuckic took free kick on half way line, everyone up, and floated straight to the keeper. We should be working on new set piece routines. tbf the majority of free kicks from about 40yds are like that from most clubs. didn't realise so much till around christmas time when so much was made of it on here then took more notice of other clubs. most clubs if it outside shooting distance is a pretty aimless lump to the back of the box, only arsenal not really doing it most of the time. Depends on your definition of lump. Any sort of crossed ball could be classed as so but a floated cross a la NUFC is nowhere near as threatening as a whipped cross or flatter cross. we've definitely been found wanting from wider positions but from deeper we are as bereft of ideas as everyone else. (ie not many teams whip crosses in from near the half way line but they do, we don't from 20yds out on the touch line) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I've forgotten what a transfer rumour actually is, I recall they were fun sometimes, maybe we'll see one sometime in the next few weeks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I've forgotten what a transfer rumour actually is, I recall they were fun sometimes, maybe we'll see one sometime in the next few weeks? Here's one: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-transfers-papiss-cisse-sold-2060316 Papiss Cisse will be sold as his relationship with Newcastle has completely broken down. Striker Cisse was not on the club’s Thursday flight to Portugal, where they will play two pre-season friendlies, because he refused to wear kit carrying the logo of controversial payday loans firm Wonga. Cisse, a Muslim, is said to be “deeply disappointed” by missing out on the tour and increasingly upset that his concerns have not been addressed by sponsors Wonga or the club. Lawyers and the Professional Footballers’ Association have been called in. It is understood Cisse wanted to go on the pre-season trip, but refused to wear the kit on religious grounds. The Senegal international is upset that the Magpies appear to be trying to make him look the bad guy when he is simply trying to stand up for his beliefs and principles. Newcastle have refused to back down and told Cisse and his representatives there is no way back. It seems certain he will leave St James’ Park this summer. Wealthy Russian club Anzi Makhachkala are monitoring the situation and are interested in a £10million deal. There has also been interest from the Premier League and the Bundesliga, including Borussia Dortmund. Cisse has been left to train on his own for the past five days, because Newcastle’s deal with Wonga requires all players to wear the firm's logo on their kit not only during games but also when training and travelling. The 28-year-old has offered to wear an unbranded shirt or one carrying the name of a charity, as revealed by MirrorFootball last week. But that proposal has not been accepted by Wonga, who believe it sends out the wrong message. They are keen to re-brand themselves as a “digital finance” company rather than the controversial “pay-day loan” sphere. Newcastle's owner, Mike Ashley, is also standing firm with his club’s multi-million pound deal with Wonga, and if his patience snaps that could result in Cisse’s departure. Cisse was told on Wednesday that Newcastle wanted him to travel to Portugal on the week-long trip, but only if he wore Wonga kit - and neither side were prepared to give ground. He strongly believes he signed a contract to play football for Newcastle United, not advertise Wonga's services. Cisse has been told his training needs will be catered for on Tyneside, and he will turn up on Thursday for his solo session. The Magpies are losing patience with Cisse’s stance, but he has won the admiration of campaigners who accuse Wonga of exploiting the poor with huge interest rates charged for short term loans. Newcastle bought Cisse for £9m from Germany's Freiburg 18 months ago and he has netted 21 goals for the club. Buying an adequate replacement would cost up to £15m. United are short of strike options as it is, and this latest distraction is a nightmare scenario for boss Alan Pardew, who now faces a chronic lack of strikers ahead of the new season. Pardew is in the market for two new frontmen - and that was before the Cisse/Wonga dispute came to a disruptive head on Wednesday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 cisse needs to stfu and get on with things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 £10m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 No one knows what's going on here, just more shite on top of this miserable summer. Be gutted if Cisse left like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Despite my pessimism in regards to our transfer activity this summer I've actually become fairly confident about our season in the last 10 days or so. Assuming we don't sell any of our best players we still have a really good first 11 with decent depth in a couple positions. Obviously very thin up front, but it's the one area where I think we'll get at least one body. The thing was though, we had a good first 11 out for nearly all of last season certainly compared to the teams around us, but the tactics and set piece routines counteracted it. We do have good players, but ive no confidence in the manager, and tbh, the coaches, getting the best out of them. Agree, I'm afraid... Cabaye, Ba,Cisse, Tiote and the rest worked well together - but now that AP got the time to have an influence he spoils it! We'd ve better of letting everyone (not Tiote) act on instinct! NO manager at all, and let some Random Dude pick the team... True. I think much of my optimism is centered around HBA being fit. He transforms our team and earns points on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Why do they think an adequate replacement will cost £15m? I think £10m and we could replace him fairly easily. And I'm not talking about Darren Bent for £8m or whatever it is Villa want for him. Graham Carr would have no problem identifying a player in that price bracket suitable for this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Why do they think an adequate replacement will cost £15m? I think £10m and we could replace him fairly easily. And I'm not talking about Darren Bent for £8m or whatever it is Villa want for him. Graham Carr would have no problem identifying a player in that price bracket suitable for this club. I would put good money on us not even going as high as £10m though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjraby Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 According to Sky Sports: Reports in L'Equipe claim that Newcastle could be tempted to look at the Ligue 1 market again in their search for a new striker. The Magpies are said to be looking at Marseille frontman Andre-Pierre Gignac. by Chris Burton 9:42 AM This is the article in question (as far as I can tell) - http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/B-gomis-plait-a-l-om/386576 - literally fuck all in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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