Disco Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 @Independent Justin Welby, Archbishop of Canterbury, says he will put Wonga out of business http://ind.pn/11fnP8q Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Wonder if he'll feature v Blackpool on Sunday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Its a little lame to pick wonga out or single wonga out of a massve haystack of money wankers on the make out of football. No, it isn't. Wonga aren't getting this shit because someone's spun a roulette wheel and picked a company at random out of hundreds of equally bad companies to have a go at for no reason. If the owners of Wonga ran this operation in France or Germany they'd be thrown in jail as criminals. When you're sponsored by a company like that, it's can't really be a surprise that it attracts negative attention and causes problems and risks. Not least the risk that they'll be legislated out of existence. Are there any companies people wouldn't accept us being sponsored by? Is there any business practice where you can't just wave it away by saying 'Oh, other companies do bad things, therefore all companies are equally as bad'? Hey, let's be sponsored by heroin. I mean, people make the decision themselves to buy it, it's not the dealers fault. And some guys at Barclay's did something about Libor, I saw it on the news. The main thing I take out of this is that sponsorship works. I can't remember anyone on here, ever, saying anything positive about Wonga before this deal. Now about 60% of the board will stand up for them against anything and everything, including our own players. Now as soon as anything shady is brought up, the reaction is to immediately deflect it by pointing the finger elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Its a little lame to pick wonga out or single wonga out of a massve haystack of money wankers on the make out of football. No, it isn't. Wonga aren't getting this shit because someone's spun a roulette wheel and picked a company at random out of hundreds of equally bad companies to have a go at for no reason. If the owners of Wonga ran this operation in France or Germany they'd be thrown in jail as criminals. When you're sponsored by a company like that, it's can't really be a surprise that it attracts negative attention and causes problems and risks. Not least the risk that they'll be legislated out of existence. Are there any companies people wouldn't accept us being sponsored by? Is there any business practice where you can't just wave it away by saying 'Oh, other companies do bad things, therefore all companies are equally as bad'? Hey, let's be sponsored by heroin. I mean, people make the decision themselves to buy it, it's not the dealers fault. And some guys at Barclay's did something about Libor, I saw it on the news. Would they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 You cant get put in jail for running a business that doesn't break the law. The problem is with the law, it's down to the lawmakers to change that now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Its a little lame to pick wonga out or single wonga out of a massve haystack of money wankers on the make out of football. No, it isn't. Wonga aren't getting this shit because someone's spun a roulette wheel and picked a company at random out of hundreds of equally bad companies to have a go at for no reason. If the owners of Wonga ran this operation in France or Germany they'd be thrown in jail as criminals. When you're sponsored by a company like that, it's can't really be a surprise that it attracts negative attention and causes problems and risks. Not least the risk that they'll be legislated out of existence. Are there any companies people wouldn't accept us being sponsored by? Is there any business practice where you can't just wave it away by saying 'Oh, other companies do bad things, therefore all companies are equally as bad'? Hey, let's be sponsored by heroin. I mean, people make the decision themselves to buy it, it's not the dealers fault. And some guys at Barclay's did something about Libor, I saw it on the news. Would they? http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/mar/27/wonga-off-club-websites There has been an enormous amount of adverse commentary in the press and parliament of the business practices of Wonga.com (Report, 2 March) and the dozens of similar "payday loan" companies. It has been argued that these companies are doing nothing illegal – but that is only because there are at present few, if any laws, restricting their activities in UK. Their practices would not be allowed in most other European countries, or in most of the US. http://www.leftfootforward.org/2012/11/payday-loans-crisis/ To consumers in the UK this is compelling stuff, but to our neighbours in Europe this seems very trivial. As it has been noted before by ‘End the Legal Loan Sharking’ campaigners, Britain is one of the only countries in Europe which does not have a cap on lending rates. In countries such as France and Germany – which along with the UK have the largest national consumer credit markets in the EU - rates are capped at anywhere from 15 per cent to 200 per cent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 You cant get put in jail for running a business that doesn't break the law. But it would break the law in most of Europe, is what I'm saying. Which is why these companies are operating in the UK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 You cant get put in jail for running a business that doesn't break the law. But it would break the law in most of Europe, is what I'm saying. Which is why these companies are all operating in the UK. I know that mate but as it stands they aren't breaking the law here, we need the same sort of laws as the ones you've shown, they would then abide by them or go to jail. Like i said it's up to our lawmakers now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 You cant get put in jail for running a business that doesn't break the law. But it would break the law in most of Europe, is what I'm saying. Which is why these companies are all operating in the UK. I know that mate but as it stands they aren't breaking the law here, we need the same sort of laws as the ones you've shown, they would then abide by them or go to jail. Like i said it's up to our lawmakers now. Of course - but the fact that a contentious loophole could be closed at any time, making your sponsor's entire business illegal probably doesn't make them a particularly stable partner for the club, whatever you think of the morality of their currently legal operation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 http://s2.favim.com/orig/36/gif-haha-kanye-west-tumblr-Favim.com-293173.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 You cant get put in jail for running a business that doesn't break the law. But it would break the law in most of Europe, is what I'm saying. Which is why these companies are all operating in the UK. I know that mate but as it stands they aren't breaking the law here, we need the same sort of laws as the ones you've shown, they would then abide by them or go to jail. Like i said it's up to our lawmakers now. Of course - but the fact that a contentious loophole could be closed at any time, making your sponsor's entire business illegal probably doesn't make them a particularly stable partner for the club, whatever you think of the morality of their currently legal operation. What i would assume if that happened during their sponsorship of us, Wonga would adjust their rates to highest of whatever the law allows, like the 200% qouted in one of those news items. Just guessing but it would be their real only option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I haven't seen anyone in here stand up for Wonga. It's not about backing Wonga over Cisse or vice versa. Regardless of the bad choice in picking Wonga as a sponsor, Cisse has a contract with the club which I can only guess generally requires him not to be insubordinate. If he feels compelled not to wear the Wonga logo, that's all well and good, but he has to accept the consequences and the club has to do what it has to do to protect itself from the harm it is suffering from Cisse's insubordination. Views that Wonga is not a good company and that Cisse is harming the club through his insubordination aren't incompatible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Its a little lame to pick wonga out or single wonga out of a massve haystack of money w*****s on the make out of football. No, it isn't. Wonga aren't getting this s*** because someone's spun a roulette wheel and picked a company at random out of hundreds of equally bad companies to have a go at for no reason. If the owners of Wonga ran this operation in France or Germany they'd be thrown in jail as criminals. When you're sponsored by a company like that, it's can't really be a surprise that it attracts negative attention and causes problems and risks. Not least the risk that they'll be legislated out of existence. Are there any companies people wouldn't accept us being sponsored by? Is there any business practice where you can't just wave it away by saying 'Oh, other companies do bad things, therefore all companies are equally as bad'? Hey, let's be sponsored by heroin. I mean, people make the decision themselves to buy it, it's not the dealers fault. And some guys at Barclay's did something about Libor, I saw it on the news. Would they? http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/mar/27/wonga-off-club-websites There has been an enormous amount of adverse commentary in the press and parliament of the business practices of Wonga.com (Report, 2 March) and the dozens of similar "payday loan" companies. It has been argued that these companies are doing nothing illegal – but that is only because there are at present few, if any laws, restricting their activities in UK. Their practices would not be allowed in most other European countries, or in most of the US. http://www.leftfootforward.org/2012/11/payday-loans-crisis/ To consumers in the UK this is compelling stuff, but to our neighbours in Europe this seems very trivial. As it has been noted before by ‘End the Legal Loan Sharking’ campaigners, Britain is one of the only countries in Europe which does not have a cap on lending rates. In countries such as France and Germany – which along with the UK have the largest national consumer credit markets in the EU - rates are capped at anywhere from 15 per cent to 200 per cent. Im no fan of Wonga at all...i just think if you're happy to swan about with a premier league footy shirt on, made in a sweat shop, happy to swill drink down your face from the club bar, happy to wear a gambling sponsor on your shirt, dont bat an eye lid at Barclays sponsoring the league then you can hardly point your moral compass at Wonga and scream bloody mary. Gambling, people raked with debt, gambling addicts, these companies only deal with you if you lose regularly, cut you off if you win to many times...Thats a bit off! Replica shirts made my extremely poor people and flogged for fortunes lapped up my the big companies like adidas and nike, while the workers get feck all. Alcohol being associated with football, people drinking to much in society in the UK, peoples livers failing left right and centre, the country has a massive drink problem...still associated and rammed down peoples necks to buy their prodcts on match days. Barclays, what can you says about these rats?!?! Wonga, shamless money lenders...but dont seem to have any less morals then any of the above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Alcohol does far more damage to more lives than debt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 @Independent Justin Welby, Archbishop of Canterbury, says he will put Wonga out of business http://ind.pn/11fnP8q Can't wait for our latest friendly, Wonga XI v Archbishop of Canterbury XI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Well done Rev, now any chance you could stop your priests abusing children, thanks you massive nutgobble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I haven't seen anyone in here stand up for Wonga. It's not about backing Wonga over Cisse or vice versa. Regardless of the bad choice in picking Wonga as a sponsor, Cisse has a contract with the club which I can only guess generally requires him not to be insubordinate. If he feels compelled not to wear the Wonga logo, that's all well and good, but he has to accept the consequences and the club has to do what it has to do to protect itself from the harm it is suffering from Cisse's insubordination. Views that Wonga is not a good company and that Cisse is harming the club through his insubordination aren't incompatible. That's the issue though, if it was the case then I would think the club could just withhold his wages and wait until someone put in an acceptable bid. If we have to keep paying him then that puts other interested clubs in a much stronger position to buy him at a cut price. Ashley won't like that one bit, but you would think he can afford to hold out on principle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Well done Rev, now any chance you could stop your priests abusing children, thanks you massive nutgobble. :lol: Money company being lectured by the chuch which produces paedo priests. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 @Independent Justin Welby, Archbishop of Canterbury, says he will put Wonga out of business http://ind.pn/11fnP8q Can't wait for our latest friendly, Wonga XI v Archbishop of Canterbury XI. http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/archbishop-admits-he-hasnt-read-bit-in-bible-about-moneylenders-2013072576913 tbh, stupid religious people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Face palm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Did Cisse get married yet? Can I wear a condom? Are you with us or against us? Decision time people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 @Independent Justin Welby, Archbishop of Canterbury, says he will put Wonga out of business http://ind.pn/11fnP8q Can't wait for our latest friendly, Wonga XI v Archbishop of Canterbury XI. http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/archbishop-admits-he-hasnt-read-bit-in-bible-about-moneylenders-2013072576913 tbh, stupid religious people. Pahahaha. Fair play Mashers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 23s Understand that Papiss Cisse's situation with #nufc is close to being resolved. More to follow. For Sale then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Happy or suicide gifs on stand by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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