Guest neesy111 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 At thr train awful at fulham. At least krul didnt get sent off First half we were class Its just 3 points like when we beat then 2-1 Johnson dived into Krul, though he should have expected it as he is a diving twat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Al Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 The 2 penalty decisions were p**s poor. Shocking referee. I must admit that Santon could have been sent off, but the pens were abysmal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Lots of wishful thinking in here. What about the other three goals we conceded then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Everyone has a shit defeat once a season. Exactly, just gotta react to it now though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 The brass tacks of it is, it's just a defeat; Stoke lost too and we're still five points clear of 8th. But the reality is really concerning. The way we utterly capitulated has left me feeling extremely worried. Have to wonder just what the hell went on in the HT dressing room. I'd be worried if it happened every week, just the once isn't overly concerning for now imo I know, i know. I think you're right. First half very good. Second half, not so much! Embarrassing! I have to say it, but it was a tactical collapse by Pardew in 2nd half. Reminded me about the backline against Chelsea! Way to high. Seriously guys. Ameobi - Best v Ba - Cisse Dont let this match ruin our confidence, it was a bump in the road. Every team have it from time to time. As gutted as i am about this afternoon, i'm desperately clinging onto this sort of mentality. We've made improvements since the horror shows of WBA (h) and Norwich (a), climaxing in that wonderful performance against Man Utd. We've made a quality reinforcement to the squad and even today, before a catastrophic change in mindset, we looked like a bloody good football team. I can't deny that some serious questions need to be asked, but i can't help but think that today was just a one-off. The fact that i'm sat here just scratching my head, rather than burying it into a pillow, suggests it might be. That sort of game hasn't happen to us for years so you could say we were overdue that sort of thrashing. As you say, they come around now and again. It's a very simplistic way of looking at things, i know, and you can say it's burying your head in the sand. But it's the FA Cup next, then home to Villa - two very winnable ties. We've got a week to put it behind us and, tbh, i'm confident of winning the next league game. Let this just be a lesson to the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Missed the game as I was out at football. At least we might buy one or two quality defenders now. They're much needed its not so much we need new defenders, it was a case of our defenders playing really shit for a change as in way below par. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Seems like that Fulham fan off their forum was right about them potentially "running riot" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Duff dived. I hate the guy so, so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Trod in doghit earlier and now this...thanks saturday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 At thr train awful at fulham. At least krul didnt get sent off First half we were class Its just 3 points like when we beat then 2-1 Johnson dived into Krul, though he should have expected it as he is a diving twat. The thing is Krul _clearly_ took the ball first, there was absolutely nothing in that one unless it was being given for the barge that Johnson shrugged off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Duff dived. Absolutely but it was fucking naive defending to give him the chance to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Duff dived. I hate the guy so, so much. Whenever he dived for us, he always got caught. Cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Trod in doghit earlier and now this...thanks saturday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 also the first half im not sure if it was us playing well or it was fulham was being completely shit. because the amount of percession we had we created fuck all apart from a wonder goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Fulham changed it around and we couldn't cope. More to do with Jol being smart enough to highlight and exploit our weaknesses than ineptitude on Pardew's part - there just wasn't that much he could conceivably do - we lacked protection in midfield (which he attempted to improve by bringing Perch on albeit too late), the centre-halves were beaten for pace and movement, particularly Williamson, and Santon was a liability off the ball. There wasn't one solution out there that could respond to Fulham's changes. Saying that I would've liked us to try and change our attacking impetus at some point - Shola was truly awful, Best was out of the game and Ben Arfa was marginal albeit something of a bright spark. Problems in the rest of the team can stem from an inefficient front line. Always thought it would be a tough match, contrary to some who thought we'd walk it - but not quite that bad. Nonsense, if tactically you cant change the outcome whats the point of the Manager. Just as you said when Jol changed his team, we should have asked our team to play a lower line with the midfield closer to the back four (crowd our half, no space to counter) . They took advantage of the gap between of slow CBs and midfield which were still too high up . Mind you Pardew did not notice it even until the end of the game. It wasnt even changing who was in the team Perch for example, it was where the team should have been tighter when they are under pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I'm confident today was just a one-off mind, especially once we get Cisse and Ba back. Today can't really be explained logically, but at least we have 11 days until the next league match. 20 minutes of madness cost us, but there were still positives in that match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 also the first half im not sure if it was us playing well or it was fulham was being completely shit. because the amount of percession we had we created fuck all apart from a wonder goal. Not true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Lots of wishful thinking in here. What about the other three goals we conceded then? wishful thinking is generous, it's fucking daft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Shocking collapse in a game we were in complete control of until an awful refing decision. Thought Jol got it spot on in the second half. He went to 4-3-3 leaving Dempsey deep, we had no natural defensive mid to pick him up. Need to write this off and move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Duff dived. Absolutely but it was fucking naive defending to give him the chance to. You would have thought after playing with him for a season, Colo would have warned the rest of the defence that Duff spends most of his time lying down, collecting his wage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 As soon as pardew had seen jol change it we should have dopped shola and stuck obertan on and just sat deep and hit them on the break. It would have nullified the AJ threat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 also the first half im not sure if it was us playing well or it was fulham was being completely s***. because the amount of percession we had we created f*** all apart from a wonder goal. Not true. which part? cant remember any clear cut . or any one on one chances we had really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H09 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Missed the game as I was out at football. At least we might buy one or two quality defenders now. They're much needed Doubt it. The problem was not the personel it was the high line they are playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I can't believe Pardew didn't make an attacking substitution despite being 4-1 down, was like even he'd given up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 As soon as pardew had seen jol change it we should have dopped shola and stuck obertan on and just sat deep and hit them on the break. It would have nullified the AJ threat. Jol smashed pardew tactically today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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