garth Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Couldn't give a s*** about the line, wasn't a f***ing foul. It certainly was a foul. Outside the box though, so not a penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 can we stop going on about the decisions made by ref, we fucked up today wasnt because of the ref. it was because we were shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Here's where Duff ended up, which gives an idea of the forward momentum involved. http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/8453/capturextr.png It could have gone either way - today it went against us but it's nowhere near the injustice some are making out. Nice appealing mid-fall btw. Wanker. isn't there some rule about the foul continuing and the fk/pen given at the last point or something? seem to remember that being talked about last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 what's the point of Gosling? offers nothing in defense or attack. We were better with him on the pitch, though. Aye because Cabaye was p*ss poor He wasn't great. Don't think he was piss poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Couldn't give a shit about the line, wasn't a fucking foul. This is where you should know your players, our players should have been told that Duff throws himself to the fall at the slightest touch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 It could have gone either way - today it went against us but it's nowhere near the injustice some are making out. Before they were awarded the first, I was thinking how pathetic they were to be diving all over the shop as a means of staging some quasi-footballing resistance... Santon not being goalside was a perfect opportunity for him to take a tumble, and he cashed in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garth Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Here's where Duff ended up, which gives an idea of the forward momentum involved. http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/8453/capturextr.png It could have gone either way - today it went against us but it's nowhere near the injustice some are making out. Nice appealing mid-fall btw. w*****. Well true, but the initial contact was outside. which is way it should have been adjudicated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Couldn't give a s*** about the line, wasn't a f***ing foul. It certainly was a foul. Outside the box though, so not a penalty. Honestly don't think it was. Total dive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Here's where Duff ended up, which gives an idea of the forward momentum involved. http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/8453/capturextr.png It could have gone either way - today it went against us but it's nowhere near the injustice some are making out. Nice appealing mid-fall btw. Wanker. isn't there some rule about the foul continuing and the fk/pen given at the last point or something? seem to remember that being talked about last season. Nope, the first contact is the point at which the free kick is given, in this instance anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Here's where Duff ended up, which gives an idea of the forward momentum involved. http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/8453/capturextr.png It could have gone either way - today it went against us but it's nowhere near the injustice some are making out. Nice appealing mid-fall btw. w*****. Well true, but the initial contact was outside. which is way it should have been adjudicated. Doesn't work like that, even if you expect the ref to notice the 10cm or so they were outside the line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 think pardew's ego has taken a huge dent today. wonder what the fat one will say to him tonight. Hopefully he'll show him a picture of Shola and then just punch it into Pardews face. hahahah why would he do that. pardew will only take that as a hint to play him more the daft silverfox. Aye, sadly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 It's an injustice because penalty/freekick/whatever, it's incredibly soft. Slightest of nudges from Santon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 How the f*** did we lose that never mind concede 4 goals in little over 15 mins or 5 in the second half. We should have been out of sight by ht. What I will say is that if we play a high line against teams that play on the counter attack with speed to burn then we will concede easy goals in games where we appear to be on top. I'm not sure who exactly I'm p*ssed off with for today but I'm completely convinced that after 45 mins that there is no way we could concede 5 goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Can't anyone remember Heskey at Wigan on Boxing Day a few years ago? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garth Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Here's where Duff ended up, which gives an idea of the forward momentum involved. http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/8453/capturextr.png It could have gone either way - today it went against us but it's nowhere near the injustice some are making out. Nice appealing mid-fall btw. w*****. Well true, but the initial contact was outside. which is way it should have been adjudicated. Doesn't work like that, even if you expect the ref to notice the 10cm or so they were outside the line. Well I beg to differ. On that I don't think we will get any further. Democracy is wonderful though isn't it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I'm with Dave, only way that could've been spotted at the pace they were going in would be through video reffing tbh. Still annoying, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 It falls under the advantage rule. The decision should be made over where the foul last occurs, not where it starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I should add that Duff is a complete wanker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 How the f*** did we lies that never mind concede 4 goals in little over 15 mins or 5 in the second half. We should have been out of sight by ht. What I will say is that if we play a high line against teams that play on the counter attack with speed to burn then we will concede easy goals in games where we appear to be on top. I'm not sure who exactly I'm p*ssed off with for today but I'm completely convinced that after 45 mins that there is no way we could concede 5 goals. we never took advantage of the possession we had with the ball. we should have pressured much more and created a s*** load more chances, we had the game controlled which should have given us the ascendancy to put fulham to the sword but we did not take it. yeh sure we played well and passed it and scored a wonder goal, but should have done much more in the first half becuase fulham was fucking horribley shyte! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 It's an injustice because penalty/freekick/whatever, it's incredibly soft. Slightest of nudges from Santon. This. It wasn't a foul in the 1st place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 It falls under the advantage rule. The free kick should be given where the foul last occurs, not where it starts. No it doesn't because the ref never indicated and gave any advantage, it was a foul and the officials got it wrong, no point in trying to say otherwise, the debate is whether they could tell where the foul took place, at the speed and views they had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Another thing; that twat of a referee gave he foul cos he (correctly) thought it was outside the box. I'm convinced that had he thought it was inside that he wouldn't have awarded a foul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluegeordie Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 can we give credit to the tactical genius of martin jol? I know you're probably being facetious, but I'll respond anyway and say "no need imo". To start with, Jol's choice of replacement for the injured Sidwell showed little appreciation of what was going wrong for them in the first half. His next change was more or less enforced, as Zamora was so shockingly poor in the first half that Jol simply had to do something to bring him into the game, and calling on Johnson was the "no brainer" option. In the second half, a lucky penalty to them, a Hollywood attitude on our part, an array of individual errors and shit performances from our players, and finally a complete and worrying inability on our part to adjust tactically to the way the game was unfolding played completely into Fulham's hands. In sum then, Jol belatedly showed some commonsense, and we proceeded to make that look like genius! And fuck, wasn't it painful and infuriating to watch!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Ref had no chance with that decision in realtime as regards to the line, except perhaps indecision. Duff went down cheaply then acted like he would be the victim of a huge injustice if he didn't get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 can we give credit to the tactical genius of martin jol? I know you're probably being facetious, but I'll respond anyway and say "no need imo". To start with, Jol's choice of replacement for the injured Sidwell showed little appreciation of what was going wrong for them in the first half. His next change was more or less enforced, as Zamora was so shockingly poor in the first half that Jol simply had to do something to bring him into the game, and calling on Johnson was the "no brainer" option. In the second half, a lucky penalty to them, a Hollywood attitude on our part, an array of individual errors and s*** performances from our players, and finally a complete and worrying inability on our part to adjust tactically to the way the game was unfolding played completely into Fulham's hands. In sum then, Jol belatedly showed some commonsense, and we proceeded to make that look like genius! And f***, wasn't it painful and infuriating to watch!? you're right i was being facetious lol and i agree with you. we were fucking rank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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