Guest Phil K Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Miliband....the man who spent LOTS of public money to get NON-British terrorists released from Guantanamo has the gall to lecture others about extremist views ? Don't like DiCanio, but the ridiculous over the top reaction to his politics has amazed me. Big sodding deal. He's manager of the makems, that does for me, in regards not liking. As for his falling out with players, maybe thats what his players need. He doesn't tolerate slackers, which Sunderland (and us, TBF) have a great many of. I couldn't give a toss what DiCanio's politics are. And baffled why others should. I'm happy for his fascist past to catch up and bite him on the arse. Agree, but TBH he didn't do badly at Swindon, but I got the impression that he'd been sounded out a month or so back, as he resigned at Swindon, as if he'd got word that something like Sunderland was in the offing. Well, we'll see. Loads of ammo for us to fire at him. Interesting to see how he reacts. It's going to be VERY interesting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Looks to me like under O'Neill they'd lost the spirit and with 2 away games to Chelsea and us, they'd possibly have lost them with a whimper, lowering confidence further and staring relegation in the face. They have a limited squad, that cant score goals. With Flectcher out, it gets harder. Di Canio is a "blood and thunder" type appointment. I reckon it could keep them up in the short term- with their next 2 fixtures surely they have more of a chance of breaking the downward spiral with a fascist nutjob laying into them then a stale O'Neill? For the next 7 games or so, it could be a good decision. If the fact that although he may not have the managerial experience, hes a total mentalist can spur the players on to blag enough points to stay up, it will have been a good decision. If they stay up and he fails miserably next season, hes only on a 2.5 year contract and wont cost much to sack, compared with the premier league money. Tough to call this one- but thinking about it, the madness might make sense in the short term. This is the gut feeling that I got, sadly. I worry about the derby slightly - I think he's a massive kick up the arse they need in the very short term. So.. the Marty Party has finished and now they're off to the Di Canio Disco? Amazing. Didn't think I'd need another reason to hate Sunderland, but this Lazio loving fascist bell end is the icing on the cake I'll be celebrating hard if they get relegated with this clown :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Those Franco comments they are going to rewrite history so they can like the cunt they have appointed, aren't they? Happy times for you lot, pisstakes should know no end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 didnt think that forum could get dafter but oh they can http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showpost.php?p=14777441&postcount=466 Peter Sutcliffe . Fuck me....could get his alter ego buddy Jack to take training whilst he is detained indefinitely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Don't remember that many stories of people being put to death during Spain's 39 years of Fascist rule. Franco turned the country round in fact. DiCanio - just when you didn't think RTG couldn't get any stupider... Actually, Franco was more "stylish" than killing them openly. They just....disappeared. PolPot on the other hand....Leftie fascists. No style. Mountain of skulls time. But I wasn't aware DiCanio was in the process of organizing a red and white army assault with tanks and Russian-made fighters etc. Aren't some of us getting a teensy weensie bit carried away, here ? Fascism is violently opposed to socialism and communism, along with liberalism and liberal democracy. You seem to be confusing fascism with totalitarianism, which is indeed a policy shared by both the extreme right and extreme left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 didnt think that forum could get dafter but oh they can http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showpost.php?p=14777441&postcount=466 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 This is the gut feeling that I got, sadly. I worry about the derby slightly - I think he's a massive kick up the arse they need in the very short term. Thats how I see it too. Or it could make it a siege mentality, which could also work. Adds spice to the season end battles against relegation. As if we needed any more ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Miliband....the man who spent LOTS of public money to get NON-British terrorists released from Guantanamo has the gall to lecture others about extremist views ? Don't like DiCanio, but the ridiculous over the top reaction to his politics has amazed me. Big sodding deal. He's manager of the makems, that does for me, in regards not liking. As for his falling out with players, maybe thats what his players need. He doesn't tolerate slackers, which Sunderland (and us, TBF) have a great many of. I couldn't give a toss what DiCanio's politics are. And baffled why others should. You're baffled why people give a toss about having a high profile fascist in our region/anywhere? If you don't have a problem with fascism then you're part of the problem, tbh. I'm part of the problem, am I ? Idiot. What IS "Fascism" ? The term started with Mussolini who used Ancient Rome's "fascii" which the Consul's Guards (Lichtors) used to bash anyone who was a threat. Therefore "fascism" Gang mentality against others (You're either with us or against us) Like YOU have just displayed, you silly little boy DiCanio isn't a likeable bloke. So what. Big deal. His views aren't mine. Why do they need to be ? Wow. I don't even know where to begin with just how incorrect and instantly contradictory that is. Actually, I do. Fascism is not about the original definition of the work. That's school boy politics and is exactly the same kind of shit, baseless excuse that people use to get away with saying things like "Paki is an abbreviation and Chinkie is a type of food" To use Facism in exact contradiction to the point that you're making about gang mentality and me being against that is the same thing. Actually, that's exactly wrong. Fascism is about the removal of democracy (the exact thing that's allowing you to make your point and me make mine without either of us being arrested for being too left or too right) So yes, you are part of the problem, because this isn't about which one of us is right, it's about both of us having the right to discuss it. Refrain from petty insults if you're going to discuss this as well please. I don't think there's any need for it at our age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Di Canio is a "blood and thunder" type appointment. Look at at their players I get the feeling a prizeprick McClean and Gardner will thrive under "blood and thunder" while Johnson and Sess may crumble under it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Di Canio will deck McClean within the first few weeks, for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Don't remember that many stories of people being put to death during Spain's 39 years of Fascist rule. Franco turned the country round in fact. DiCanio - just when you didn't think RTG couldn't get any stupider... Actually, Franco was more "stylish" than killing them openly. They just....disappeared. PolPot on the other hand....Leftie fascists. No style. Mountain of skulls time. But I wasn't aware DiCanio was in the process of organizing a red and white army assault with tanks and Russian-made fighters etc. Aren't some of us getting a teensy weensie bit carried away, here ? Fascism is violently opposed to socialism and communism. You seem to be confusing fascism with totalitarianism, which is an aaspect shared by both the extreme right and extreme left. And the difference in body count is ? Actually fascism is just extreme politics. Remember what the Nazis called themselves ? Not "National Fascist Party" but "National SOCIALISTS" But see ? How the f*** is this football ? Its football, but not as we know it, captain ? Lets keep football and politics FAR apart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Di Canio will deck McClean within the first few weeks, for sure. Was reading the Celtic forum and they seem deeply divided about Di Canio. Guess it could go either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Refrain from petty insults if you're going to discuss this as well please. I don't think there's any need for it at our age. Hypocrisy is strong with this one...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 @robert_g_oliver 18m Sunderland Council has just agreed £7,000 of taxpayers' money for the Tyne and Wear Anti-Fascist Association. We can't have it both ways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Di Canio will deck McClean within the first few weeks, for sure. He'll just plant a bomb in his letterbox marra. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Don't remember that many stories of people being put to death during Spain's 39 years of Fascist rule. Franco turned the country round in fact. DiCanio - just when you didn't think RTG couldn't get any stupider... Actually, Franco was more "stylish" than killing them openly. They just....disappeared. PolPot on the other hand....Leftie fascists. No style. Mountain of skulls time. But I wasn't aware DiCanio was in the process of organizing a red and white army assault with tanks and Russian-made fighters etc. Aren't some of us getting a teensy weensie bit carried away, here ? Fascism is violently opposed to socialism and communism. You seem to be confusing fascism with totalitarianism, which is an aaspect shared by both the extreme right and extreme left. And the difference in body count is ? Actually fascism is just extreme politics. Remember what the Nazis called themselves ? Not "National Fascist Party" but "National SOCIALISTS" But see ? How the f*** is this football ? Its football, but not as we know it, captain ? Lets keep football and politics FAR apart. It's not just a synonym for extreme politics of whichever persuasion, it's a very specific ideology. Have a quick scan of Wikipedia. As for the Nazis, again, you don't seem to understand the difference between socialism and national socialism. Does this mean the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy? It's right there in the name, after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Di Canio will deck McClean within the first few weeks, for sure. Was reading the Celtic forum and they seem deeply divided about Di Canio. Guess it could go either way. And they have it right. DiCanio's got a volatile image. Always going to rile more than he gets adherents I was delighted with his appointment from a purely selfish view as a Newcastle fan. But the OTT response and soap box ranting has amazed me. thankfully, some have been doing the p*ss taking route and slowly that'll take over from the strutting orator types. This is just too good to allow to be bogged down in pompous lecturing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Remember fascists are people to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Putting a statement out about his politic beliefs etc today apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Di Canio will deck McClean within the first few weeks, for sure. Was reading the Celtic forum and they seem deeply divided about Di Canio. Guess it could go either way. And they have it right. DiCanio's got a volatile image. Always going to rile more than he gets adherents I was delighted with his appointment from a purely selfish view as a Newcastle fan. But the OTT response and soap box ranting has amazed me. thankfully, some have been doing the p*ss taking route and slowly that'll take over from the strutting orator types. This is just too good to allow to be bogged down in pompous lecturing. By deeply divided I don't mean they're internally conflicted, I mean that half of them think he's a legend and half of them think he's a Nazi cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Putting a statement out about his politic beliefs etc today apparently. 'We at SAFC are fascists but not racists' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Di Canio will deck McClean within the first few weeks, for sure. Was reading the Celtic forum and they seem deeply divided about Di Canio. Guess it could go either way. And they have it right. DiCanio's got a volatile image. Always going to rile more than he gets adherents I was delighted with his appointment from a purely selfish view as a Newcastle fan. But the OTT response and soap box ranting has amazed me. thankfully, some have been doing the p*ss taking route and slowly that'll take over from the strutting orator types. This is just too good to allow to be bogged down in pompous lecturing. You're ruining the thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Di Canio will deck McClean within the first few weeks, for sure. Was reading the Celtic forum and they seem deeply divided about Di Canio. Guess it could go either way. And they have it right. DiCanio's got a volatile image. Always going to rile more than he gets adherents I was delighted with his appointment from a purely selfish view as a Newcastle fan. But the OTT response and soap box ranting has amazed me. thankfully, some have been doing the p*ss taking route and slowly that'll take over from the strutting orator types. This is just too good to allow to be bogged down in pompous lecturing. Yeah, let's only say and do the things that one person on the entire thread wants to say and do. Imagine that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Putting a statement out about his politic beliefs etc today apparently. 'We at SAFC are fascists but not racists' " You can be safely assured that our showers are powered by electricity and not gas." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Putting a statement out about his politic beliefs etc today apparently. Doesn't he have Il Duce tat on his back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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