Varadi Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Walked out of his press conference according to this: http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/04/02/no-questions-allowed-fascist-manager-arrives-at-sunderland? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejeck Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Walked out of his press conference according to this: http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/04/02/no-questions-allowed-fascist-manager-arrives-at-sunderland? Oh Dear! graeme anderson@sunechograeme 1h Kicks off big style in nationals with direct questions:"Are you a fascist, yes or no" Press conf. Press conf cut short. Hell on as they say. graeme anderson@sunechograeme 1h Fair to say, Paolo might struggle to get a positive spin in the nationals. Club could get a kicking too. Interesting times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Whats with all this "third person" referrence nonsense...batshit crazy loony tune this guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 At least people now know who Sunderland are. Instead of tagging "it's near Newcastle", they can add "managed by a fascist". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 still referring to himself in the third person Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Was any of this brought up when he was Swindon manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 swinden, according to that quality article Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Was any of this brought up when he was Swindon manager? Its been said before, there are other reasons this has made headlines, but one is undoutedly that Sunderland are a higher profile club than Swindon, and top flight (for the time being). Its much like us and the Wonga deal. Not as many headlines when they sponsored Blackpool And Hearts(?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 did anybody hear radio newcastle on about fascism about 9am this morning? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Politics and football are linked. End of story. can you expand on that? I already have earlier in the thread. Football clubs represent people and places. They inevitably take on the political identity of those places. Just because the game is a global money making machine does not change that. Barca-Real isn't the biggest game in world football because they're two very good teams. This is utter nonsense - NUFC is in what is generally accepted as a Labour voting area, but many of the fans share a love of the club whilst having totally different views about politics - and politics should NOT enter sport, OR be linked to it. Hitler tried that in the 30s but the England Team(and Jesse Owens in the Olympics)rammed that down his throat....similarly, the Soviets and Chinese have both tried to use sport to boost Communism and ironically, the Chinese have only started to show at the top of Olympic medal tables since they moved away from Maoism and to what is basically a Capitalist economy. Ask the likes of Olga Korbut and various Iron Curtain gymnasts what they thought of sport being used to foster a political agenda... As for Barca and Real, the only way they represent a political viewpoint is because the Catalans want autonomy from Spain and they identify Barca's successes with that aim, just as Real fans use Madrid as an emblem of Spanish would-be supremacy. There is NO similar situation in the UK unless you use the former rivalry between Celtic and Rangers and that is based on religion rather than politics - another thing which should be kept separate from sport. If you are trying to identify NUFC and most other Northern sides with the left wing of politics, it is hardly worth it if you subscribe to that view because apart from the 2 Manchester clubs, one of whom has many southerners in its fan-base, the northern clubs are not as successful whereas clubs in London(viewed by many Northerners as a den of Toryism)like Spurs and Arsenal have been more successful...... Politics has NO place in football whatsoever - either to boost the Right OR the Left and every effort should be made to keep the 2 separate. I agree with Felipao's views about the whole thing and about Di Canio... As I said before, I am far more concerned about his possible impact on the Mackems - and hence, on our chances of relegation - than any madcap political stance/demonstration he might make. If he replicates his successes at Swindon, any Socialists in the Sunderland fan-base won't give 2 stuffs about his views.... As Felipao said, we should be far more concerned about appointing a Lge 1 manager with a dodgy managerial record behind him........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Fascist this and fascist that. Why hasn't he been hounded out of England yet? Why was he allowed back in the country to begin with? Are Swindon fans who wanted the club to keep him "a bit special" too? His political views are absolutely irrelevant. He's a football manager, end of story Number of black managers in the top flight = zero. Chris Hughton says hello PMSL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 The whole appointment has descended into a shit storm already Mind, putting the whole rivalry aside there's a whole hoast of old school loyal fans like the miners association who are generally shocked and appalled at the whole thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Politics and football are linked. End of story. can you expand on that? I already have earlier in the thread. Football clubs represent people and places. They inevitably take on the political identity of those places. Just because the game is a global money making machine does not change that. Barca-Real isn't the biggest game in world football because they're two very good teams. This is utter nonsense - NUFC is in what is generally accepted as a Labour voting area, but many of the fans share a love of the club whilst having totally different views about politics - and politics should NOT enter sport, OR be linked to it. Hitler tried that in the 30s but the England Team(and Jesse Owens in the Olympics)rammed that down his throat....similarly, the Soviets and Chinese have both tried to use sport to boost Communism and ironically, the Chinese have only started to show at the top of Olympic medal tables since they moved away from Maoism and to what is basically a Capitalist economy. Ask the likes of Olga Korbut and various Iron Curtain gymnasts what they thought of sport being used to foster a political agenda... As for Barca and Real, the only way they represent a political viewpoint is because the Catalans want autonomy from Spain and they identify Barca's successes with that aim, just as Real fans use Madrid as an emblem of Spanish would-be supremacy. There is NO similar situation in the UK unless you use the former rivalry between Celtic and Rangers and that is based on religion rather than politics - another thing which should be kept separate from sport. If you are trying to identify NUFC and most other Northern sides with the left wing of politics, it is hardly worth it if you subscribe to that view because apart from the 2 Manchester clubs, one of whom has many southerners in its fan-base, the northern clubs are not as successful whereas clubs in London(viewed by many Northerners as a den of Toryism)like Spurs and Arsenal have been more successful...... Politics has NO place in football whatsoever - either to boost the Right OR the Left and every effort should be made to keep the 2 separate. I agree with Felipao's views about the whole thing and about Di Canio... As I said before, I am far more concerned about his possible impact on the Mackems - and hence, on our chances of relegation - than any madcap political stance/demonstration he might make. If he replicates his successes at Swindon, any Socialists in the Sunderland fan-base won't give 2 stuffs about his views.... As Felipao said, we should be far more concerned about appointing a Lge 1 manager with a dodgy managerial record behind him........ You've just massively oversimplified the rivalry between Real and Barca. Well done. Your argument is that politics and sport should remain separate however they are not. No amount of hand wringing will change that. They're linked and forever will be. I'm sorry if that upsets you. I've also never once tried to prescribe a political leaning to NUFC. You've simply assumed I have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Politics and football are linked. End of story. can you expand on that? I already have earlier in the thread. Football clubs represent people and places. They inevitably take on the political identity of those places. Just because the game is a global money making machine does not change that. Barca-Real isn't the biggest game in world football because they're two very good teams. This is utter nonsense - NUFC is in what is generally accepted as a Labour voting area, but many of the fans share a love of the club whilst having totally different views about politics - and politics should NOT enter sport, OR be linked to it. Hitler tried that in the 30s but the England Team(and Jesse Owens in the Olympics)rammed that down his throat....similarly, the Soviets and Chinese have both tried to use sport to boost Communism and ironically, the Chinese have only started to show at the top of Olympic medal tables since they moved away from Maoism and to what is basically a Capitalist economy. Ask the likes of Olga Korbut and various Iron Curtain gymnasts what they thought of sport being used to foster a political agenda... As for Barca and Real, the only way they represent a political viewpoint is because the Catalans want autonomy from Spain and they identify Barca's successes with that aim, just as Real fans use Madrid as an emblem of Spanish would-be supremacy. There is NO similar situation in the UK unless you use the former rivalry between Celtic and Rangers and that is based on religion rather than politics - another thing which should be kept separate from sport. If you are trying to identify NUFC and most other Northern sides with the left wing of politics, it is hardly worth it if you subscribe to that view because apart from the 2 Manchester clubs, one of whom has many southerners in its fan-base, the northern clubs are not as successful whereas clubs in London(viewed by many Northerners as a den of Toryism)like Spurs and Arsenal have been more successful...... Politics has NO place in football whatsoever - either to boost the Right OR the Left and every effort should be made to keep the 2 separate. I agree with Felipao's views about the whole thing and about Di Canio... As I said before, I am far more concerned about his possible impact on the Mackems - and hence, on our chances of relegation - than any madcap political stance/demonstration he might make. If he replicates his successes at Swindon, any Socialists in the Sunderland fan-base won't give 2 stuffs about his views.... As Felipao said, we should be far more concerned about appointing a Lge 1 manager with a dodgy managerial record behind him........ Word Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Walked out of his press conference according to this: http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/04/02/no-questions-allowed-fascist-manager-arrives-at-sunderland? Sky News sports correspondent just said that journalists who raise unwelcome questions could be banned from SAFC in future. All getting a bit scarily right wing down there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Walked out of his press conference according to this: http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/04/02/no-questions-allowed-fascist-manager-arrives-at-sunderland? Sky News sports correspondent just said that journalists who raise unwelcome questions could be banned from SAFC in future. All getting a bit scarily right wing down there. there own fanzine editor- that knacker , cant remember his name called the club a totalitarian regime this morning A radio newcastle presenter stated- Fascism can mean anything from extreme right wing political views, to someone who is just quite strict. really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Ok, they are mackems, unwashed and we hate them. But it's not the fans' decision that brought Di Canio to their club. It was the decision of one, or possibly a small group of people at the top to interview then hire him. The Sunderland fans are desperate for something to cheer about, and even more desperate to stay up. Those who are acting like bellends condoning his views etc. are doing it out of a mix of ignorance and desperation. I don't think it says too much about their values as a collective sporting club when it was most probably the decision of their American owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenrot Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 A radio newcastle presenter stated- Fascism can mean anything from extreme right wing political views, to someone who is just quite strict. really? Well not really but colloquially yes. People call their bus drivers fascist when they don't let them on the bus with 5p less than the fare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 A radio newcastle presenter stated- Fascism can mean anything from extreme right wing political views, to someone who is just quite strict. really? Well not really but colloquially yes. People call their bus drivers fascist when they don't let them on the bus with 5p less than the fare. yes but thats misuse of the word, hardly the line a bbc radio station should be taking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 PVC might not even be there for the derby at this rate Can't believe some of the hand wringing that's still going on "Won't somebody please think of the fascists" http://i.imgur.com/JVL1fCj.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 He does dress pretty sharply, in fairness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenrot Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 He does dress pretty sharply, in fairness. So did the SS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 He does dress pretty sharply, in fairness. He's Italian. Goes without saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 He does dress pretty sharply, in fairness. Fascists have always had a good sense of style. The Nazi's were clad in Hugo Boss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 PVC might not even be there for the derby at this rate Can't believe some of the hand wringing that's still going on "Won't somebody please think of the fascists" http://i.imgur.com/JVL1fCj.jpg Not a single poster has said that. I'll admit I haven't read every single post since the appointment, but out all the posts I have seen, no one has seriously said that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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